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[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

Does it matter? [/quote]

Well, when you degrade someones career openly, then yes, it absolutely does matter. [/quote]

Agreed. That is no better than people with NO pictures on this site calling other people out on how they look.

If you are going to disrespect the man’s profession, be man enough to have your own out there for judgment as well. if not, then just shut the fuck up.

Most of the people here are first to jump in to judge someone else but last to put anything of themselves out there for critique.

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]Ken St.Mich wrote:
I would kill her if there was a good oportunity.

The reason is she adopts children to torture them.[/quote]

Wow…you prove yourself even worse than she is by FAR![/quote]

People often told me “If you do that, you re not better than them.” and I did it because I know I am still better; I have a valid reasons for any act of violence I ever comitted.

If someone inflicts serious harm on a helpless person solely because he enjoys it he is worse than someone who in turn punishes them.

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[quote]Ken St.Mich wrote:

[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]Ken St.Mich wrote:
I would kill her if there was a good oportunity.

The reason is she adopts children to torture them.[/quote]

Wow…you prove yourself even worse than she is by FAR![/quote]

People often told me “If you do that, you re not better than them.” and I did it because I know I am still better; I have a valid reasons for any act of violence I ever comitted.

If someone inflicts serious harm on a helpless person solely because he enjoys it he is worse than someone who in turn punishes them.[/quote]

Someone’s been watching a little too much dexter.

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The fact that someone sees it as ‘mild’ is irrelevant. Most people with kids know that they spend an inordinate amount of time fighting about tags in clothing and certain materials. Some kids are a pain in the ass and some have legit issues.

Nobody knows the extent of this sauce to the kid. Sure, big 220-270 bodybuilders scoff at hotsauce, but to a 40 lb 6 year old you have no idea.

Again, the woman admitted this was regular, and extreme and was looking for help and voluntarily put herself out for judgement.

Yes, the WOMAN admitted it’s not working, but put on a show for the camera. Why not just film the kid misbehaving and state “I’ve tried everything, I need help”? This was a show for show’s sake.

Again, just because it was “OK for me and my parents” didn’t make it right or even effective. Maybe for some, but this isn’t normal. And it’s not a matter of ‘oh, you were sheltered’. It ain’t normal.

My wife, the elementary ed teacher, and I grew up in large families, I’ve owned a daycare out of my house, know dozens of families closely from my kids and school, and we own a business where my wife teaches kids music to the tune of over 600 families now for a decade. Our very best friends are doctors. We’ve had families from all walks of life.

We’ve spent uncountless hours discussing ‘parenting’ and trading war stories. We’ve seen all number of families from broken to poor to rich and let me tell you, “hot sauce and cold showers” AIN’T normal, especially as a regular form of punishment. I’ve already conceded that I could see ‘the hot sauce treatment’ as a one time “don’t ever do that again”, but it ain’t normal.

re: “I was a child, so I don’t need kids to have parental experience” – PX, that’s ridiculous. I’ve had a number of fillings and dental cleanings. I know the drill and procedures, so I guess I’m qualified to clean and drill and fill. Fuck all the details and experience, right?

No doubt you’ll make a fine father someday, and you’ll change like the rest of us, and you’ll make mistakes like the rest of us, but it’s pretty telling that you’re defending this practice as ‘harmless’ although you say you’ll never do it. Why? Because it’s abnormal and ineffective.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

re: “I was a child, so I don’t need kids to have parental experience” – PX, that’s ridiculous. I’ve had a number of fillings and dental cleanings. I know the drill and procedures, so I guess I’m qualified to clean and drill and fill. Fuck all the details and experience, right? [/quote]

Did all of you just fail at the analogy portion of the SATs? The correct analogy would be the son of a dentist who watched his dad work for his entire life giving you limited advice about dental related inquiries…in which case, it would likely be way more spot on than some guy who simply had some fillings.

Get it now?

Do you understand the idea of growing up under a certain set of circumstances and thus having that vantage point to judge? Or will you keep relating it to someone who barely knows anything but has a passing knowledge based on hearsay?

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[quote]Ken St.Mich wrote:

[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]Ken St.Mich wrote:
I would kill her if there was a good oportunity.

The reason is she adopts children to torture them.[/quote]

Wow…you prove yourself even worse than she is by FAR![/quote]

People often told me “If you do that, you re not better than them.” and I did it because I know I am still better; I have a valid reasons for any act of violence I ever comitted.

If someone inflicts serious harm on a helpless person solely because he enjoys it he is worse than someone who in turn punishes them.[/quote]

Serious harm? Where was the “serious harm” here?

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Also, steely, both of my parents were teachers. I have spent countless hours at random times growing up watching how they not only raised us but also handled kids that weren’t their own. That means while I may not be a parent, you are talking to someone who has that experience and who also works with children regularly as a job that involves getting little kids to allow me to put sharp objects in their mouth. Guess what. You learn a thing or two that most would not without those experiences.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, steely, both of my parents were teachers. I have spent countless hours at random times growing up watching how they not only raised us but also handled kids that weren’t their own. That means while I may not be a parent, you are talking to someone who has that experience and who also works with children regularly as a job that involves getting little kids to allow me to put sharp objects in their mouth. Guess what. You learn a thing or two that most would not without those experiences.[/quote]

I can appreciate that.

Edit: I did awesome on my SAT’s and GRE’s :stuck_out_tongue:

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, steely, both of my parents were teachers. I have spent countless hours at random times growing up watching how they not only raised us but also handled kids that weren’t their own. That means while I may not be a parent, you are talking to someone who has that experience and who also works with children regularly as a job that involves getting little kids to allow me to put sharp objects in their mouth. Guess what. You learn a thing or two that most would not without those experiences.[/quote]

I can appreciate that.[/quote]

However I would have to interject that the emotional connection has a lot to do with this. I have taken care of kids as a provider and a father of 5. I am much more patient and understanding with other peoples kids. I have had to start IV’s in newborns etc. so X I understand what you are saying. Again when your own child that you love with everything in your being acts out reasoning skills go out the window. Just my .02

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, steely, both of my parents were teachers. I have spent countless hours at random times growing up watching how they not only raised us but also handled kids that weren’t their own. That means while I may not be a parent, you are talking to someone who has that experience and who also works with children regularly as a job that involves getting little kids to allow me to put sharp objects in their mouth. Guess what. You learn a thing or two that most would not without those experiences.[/quote]

I can appreciate that.[/quote]

However I would have to interject that the emotional connection has a lot to do with this. I have taken care of kids as a provider and a father of 5. I am much more patient and understanding with other peoples kids. I have had to start IV’s in newborns etc. so X I understand what you are saying. Again when your own child that you love with everything in your being acts out reasoning skills go out the window. Just my .02[/quote]

Guy, as a professional, you should understand that the distance we put between ourselves and a patient only comes in time. Every single one of us, unless somehow a sociopath, started off treating patients with a more personal “touch” with very little professional distance. That distance had to be learned from experience so no, while I know exactly what you are saying, for anyone to act like someone who works with kids has ZERO insight into disciplining a child as a parent is a little off.

I may not have kids, but I do have MUCH experience with them and MUCH observation of how the parenting of others translates into how that kid acts in public.

No one who can get a 6 year old to smile while they stick a needle in them is clueless about kids.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, steely, both of my parents were teachers. I have spent countless hours at random times growing up watching how they not only raised us but also handled kids that weren’t their own. That means while I may not be a parent, you are talking to someone who has that experience and who also works with children regularly as a job that involves getting little kids to allow me to put sharp objects in their mouth. Guess what. You learn a thing or two that most would not without those experiences.[/quote]

I can appreciate that.[/quote]

However I would have to interject that the emotional connection has a lot to do with this. I have taken care of kids as a provider and a father of 5. I am much more patient and understanding with other peoples kids. I have had to start IV’s in newborns etc. so X I understand what you are saying. Again when your own child that you love with everything in your being acts out reasoning skills go out the window. Just my .02[/quote]

Guy, as a professional, you should understand that the distance we put between ourselves and a patient only comes in time. very single one of us, unless somehow a sociopath, started off treating patients with a more personal “touch” with very little professional distance. That distance had to be learned so no, while I know exactly what you are saying, for anyone to act like someone who works with kids has ZERO insight into disciplining a child as a parent is a little off.

I may not have kids, but I do have MUCH experience with them and MUCH observation of how the parenting of others translates into how that kid acts in public.

No one who can get a 6 year old to smile while I stick a needle in them is clueless about kids.[/quote]

Again X I can see your point and not really arguing, just trying to say that as a professional I still care for my patients. But I would not die for my patiens, the emotional connection is much deeper with your children.

I said before in this thread parenting skills will be debated as much as politics, that is why this dumb ass thread has gone on like it has.

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Doctor is a title used for respect and to aknowledge that someone completed the education necessary to be awarded a doctorate. MD, Dc, DDS, PhDs are all doctors. You can have a PhD in economics and it’s correct to call them doctor.

MDs aren’t the only doctors out there. All medical physicians are doctors, but not all doctors are medical physicians.

You go to school for eight years and complete your education in the same field, you’re probably a doctor of some type.

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
Doctor is a title used for respect and to aknowledge that someone completed the education necessary to be awarded a doctorate. MD, Dc, DDS, PhDs are all doctors. You can have a PhD in economics and it’s correct to call them doctor.

MDs aren’t the only doctors out there. All medical physicians are doctors, but not all doctors are medical physicians.

You go to school for eight years and complete your education in the same field, you’re probably a doctor of some type.[/quote]

tom where were you going with this? Kind of random?

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
Doctor is a title used for respect and to aknowledge that someone completed the education necessary to be awarded a doctorate. MD, Dc, DDS, PhDs are all doctors. You can have a PhD in economics and it’s correct to call them doctor.

MDs aren’t the only doctors out there. All medical physicians are doctors, but not all doctors are medical physicians.

You go to school for eight years and complete your education in the same field, you’re probably a doctor of some type.[/quote]

True. However, they seem to attack me whenever I use that title as if doing surgery, prescribing drugs and treating people MEDICALLY somehow means I am not a real doctor and should never claim that I am one…because I am “just a dentist”.

It is a very weak attempt to degrade what I do…which makes little sense considering what that title means in America.

I specialize in the mouth but we have the same gross anatomy training as the med school students.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Doctor is a title used for respect and to aknowledge that someone completed the education necessary to be awarded a doctorate. MD, Dc, DDS, PhDs are all doctors. You can have a PhD in economics and it’s correct to call them doctor.

MDs aren’t the only doctors out there. All medical physicians are doctors, but not all doctors are medical physicians.

You go to school for eight years and complete your education in the same field, you’re probably a doctor of some type.[/quote]

tom where were you going with this? Kind of random?[/quote]

Damn, pay attention DJHL. I assume he is referring to an exchange between X and Bro C where X referred to himself as a “doctor” and Bro C corrected with “dentist” and then…I think a slap feast.

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That was so god damn funny!!! That’s what it’s like.

My beautiful 16 year old daughter was a chore to potty train. She was around three when she was just getting the hang of it. She went and came out and told me she went potty, and is it a big one!

I had to go look because she was just so proud. It was prodigious. I don’t know how a thirty pound girl crapped so much. I doubt a 275 powerlifter with an all you can eat gift card to Ruth chris could do better.

But that’s the stuff you remember about kids.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I don’t hit my kids. Not that I have never wanted to, but I just no longer think it works in the greater scheme. I came into fatherhood with the thought that corporal punishment was effective because that is how I was raised. However, I came to the realization that it was fear, not respect that it encouraged. I got my ass beat a few times, until at about fifteen my dad came at me and I told him if it made him feel like a man to go ahead and hit me. He walked away and I was never beaten by him again.
[/quote]

It’s interesting how you come into parenthood with rigid ideals and ‘how things will be in my house’. Not that that’s a bad thing, it’s natural, but the reality is that no one is prepared for the things kids will do, what you will do, what they will say, or the things you will hear yourself say when you have kids.

A few days of one sick kid is enough to change the whole family dynamic. Sleep deprivation for those who are used to their nice cozy time schedule is the best. Learning that screaming in the face of a 5 year old to stop crying only makes them scream louder because they physically can’t stop. Let alone if you’re blessed with girls.

This came out of my mouth:

(Kid 2 younger than Kid 1)

<driving in car, kid 2 screams like in serious pain, like a liver exploded or something>

Me to Kid2: “Why are you screaming??!?”

Kid2: “She gave my bunny magical fairy powers!! I didn’t WANT (the bunny) to have magical fairy powers!!!”

Me (to Kid1): “Did you give the bunny magical fairy powers?!”

Kid1: “Yes!”

Kid2: “WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!”

Me: “Will you PLLLEEEZZZZEE revoke the magical fairy powers??!”

Kid1: “What’s that mean? Ree-voke?”

Me: “WHAT? Take them away!!! Take back the magical fairy powers NOW!”

Kid1: “Well she WANTED magical fairy powers”

Kid2: “NOT THE BUUUUNNNYYYYY!!!”

Me: “NOOOWWWW!”

Kid1: “JEEEZ OK!!! It’s just magica…”

Me and wife in unison: “NNNOOOOWW!”

Kid1: “O” .. “Kaaaaaaay”!!!

Me: “You can’t just go around assigning magical fairy powers to bunnies!!”

Me to wife: “Did I just really say that?”

I’m sorry, but hot sauce and cold showers and regular beatings will not prevent this scenario.[/quote]

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[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Doctor is a title used for respect and to aknowledge that someone completed the education necessary to be awarded a doctorate. MD, Dc, DDS, PhDs are all doctors. You can have a PhD in economics and it’s correct to call them doctor.

MDs aren’t the only doctors out there. All medical physicians are doctors, but not all doctors are medical physicians.

You go to school for eight years and complete your education in the same field, you’re probably a doctor of some type.[/quote]

tom where were you going with this? Kind of random?[/quote]

Damn, pay attention DJHL. I assume he is referring to an exchange between X and Bro C where X referred to himself as a “doctor” and Bro C corrected with “dentist” and then…I think a slap feast.[/quote]

Shit my bad, but wasnt that like 6-8 pages ago?

And X I was a Respiratory therapist at 18, then became a nurse and then a nurse practitioner. I have spent 20 years in the medical field and can prescribe meds, diagnose, treat, 3rd party bill etc. You talk about not getting respect, I have my masters and could go back for my Doctorate to get the title. But do you really think it would help? People are still going to say you are just a nurse.

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This made my stomach churn and my blood boil. The fact that shit like this still goes on in an alleged “civilized” country is sick, especially when people are being tried for war crimes for waterboarding, when that was against suspected terrorists and suicide bombers, not a child.

If I saw someone do this to my daughter they’d find out what being in serious trouble really means. I’d put the bottle of hot sauce in their mouth and shove it so hard it rips out all their teeth and comes out the back of their fucking head. Then pour a just boiled kettle over her, drag her by the bottle still sticking out the back of her head into the street and hang her from a lamp post by a metal hook through her eye. Sick fucking bitch!

Wow, maybe I have anger issues?

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Same here. I’m a chiropractor. We use the same anatomy text books as med students. I don’t take it personally, just politely correct them on what doctor means. Most don’t know.

I have a lot of respect for dentists. A good one is gold. One of the top fears ofpeople is dental work. A dentist who does his job well and puts his pts at ease is amazing.

It’s just assholes being assholes. Ive dealt with the same from people who barely finished high school.

students[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Doctor is a title used for respect and to aknowledge that someone completed the education necessary to be awarded a doctorate. MD, Dc, DDS, PhDs are all doctors. You can have a PhD in economics and it’s correct to call them doctor.

MDs aren’t the only doctors out there. All medical physicians are doctors, but not all doctors are medical physicians.

You go to school for eight years and complete your education in the same field, you’re probably a doctor of some type.[/quote]

True. However, they seem to attack me whenever I use that title as if doing surgery, prescribing drugs and treating people MEDICALLY somehow means I am not a real doctor and should never claim that I am one…because I am “just a dentist”.

It is a very weak attempt to degrade what I do…which makes little sense considering what that title means in America.

I specialize in the mouth but we have the same gross anatomy training as the med school students.[/quote]

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
That was so god damn funny!!! That’s what it’s like.

My beautiful 16 year old daughter was a chore to potty train. She was around three when she was just getting the hang of it. She went and came out and told me she went potty, and is it a big one!

I had to go look because she was just so proud. It was prodigious. I don’t know how a thirty pound girl crapped so much. I doubt a 275 powerlifter with an all you can eat gift card to Ruth chris could do better.

But that’s the stuff you remember about kids.

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This.

So, when my oldest was about 2 or 3-ish she, too, was learning to go on the toilet.

I was working at home and she was in her room watching Winnie the Pooh or something on the TV we had on the floor in our room.

She came out and said, “I went poopy!!”

I said, “Yaaaaay!!! You went poopy on the potty!!”

She got this confused look on her face and said, “I did not go poopy on the potty!” (she wasn’t using contractions at that point).

I said, “Uhhh, Oh. Where’d you go poopy?”

She said with a big grin on her face, “I went poopy on the Tee Veee!”

Sure enough, I walk in the room and there’s a big old turd right on top of the TV!!!

Once again, I stood there going “Who the fuck could ever have convinced me I’d have to deal with shit like this!!” LOL.

(Some folks might have given her hot sauce at that point).