Worst Parenting... Ever

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

Says the idiot who tried to convince people that being an artist was “important” to society.
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So, idiot… imagine your world without artists.

Who do you think draws your favorite video games? Artists. Who paints the images on greeting cards you buy to express “your” feelings for a loved one? Who created the logos for the sports teams you root for or the bands you listen to? How about the clothes you wear… the cool graphics on T-shirts, the cut and design? Who drafts the designs for the buildings we work and dwell in, or that car you drive?

Damn right. Artists. The list is endless. Important to society?
You tell me, internet tough guy.
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So tragic.
I’ll take mathematicians and physicists any day over guys who doodle. Nothing wrong with drawing and painting, but for someone who does ONLY that, I fail to see the importance.
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Yes, you do indeed FAIL to see the importance.
I’m pretty sure the dude who drew your avatar makes a living ONLY doing art.

What the fuck do YOU do, young man?
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He’s an art critic.

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

Says the idiot who tried to convince people that being an artist was “important” to society.
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So, idiot… imagine your world without artists.

Who do you think draws your favorite video games? Artists. Who paints the images on greeting cards you buy to express “your” feelings for a loved one? Who created the logos for the sports teams you root for or the bands you listen to? How about the clothes you wear… the cool graphics on T-shirts, the cut and design? Who drafts the designs for the buildings we work and dwell in, or that car you drive?

Damn right. Artists. The list is endless. Important to society?
You tell me, internet tough guy.
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So tragic.
I’ll take mathematicians and physicists any day over guys who doodle. Nothing wrong with drawing and painting, but for someone who does ONLY that, I fail to see the importance.
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Yes, you do indeed FAIL to see the importance.
I’m pretty sure the dude who drew your avatar makes a living ONLY doing art.

What the fuck do YOU do, young man?
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He’s an art critic.[/quote]

LOL!

Art Critic: One who failed entry into art school and now wants to take it out on real artists.
(Didn’t Hitler start out like this?)

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:

If a child is doing something wrong, they need to learn to no longer do that thing. Looking back to when I was a child, I didn’t need to know WHY I shouldn’t do something; what was important was just making sure I did not do it. Sometimes physical punishment is the best option for teaching this.

Why would I not go this route? I don’t think I have it in me to hit a child. That’s my personal weakness. I do like the idea of digging holes or running though. [/quote]

LOL @ theoretical parenting.

Children do need to know why something is wrong or they won’t learn or understand. I think the childless here don’t give single-digit aged children enough credit.

When does ‘why’ become important? Their 10th birthday? 11th? 8th? Sorry, but my kids are raised to ask questions and to understand EVERYTHING they do. Apply this to bodybuilding (“Why squat?”-- “Don’t worry about it, just shut up and squat”).

Naturally kids going to ask why they can’t do something. Does anyone really think otherwise? Do you want your kids to be mindless robots?

Is ‘just shut up and do what I say’ how kids should be educated in the classroom, too?

My neighbor, the single, childless PhD saw that we got movie screens for the van for a long trip. She said that she believes that those things ruin children and that they should be made to sit and admire the scenery (for a 10 hour trip). Apparently, some of you would agree. I’m going to guess that many with children would not.
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I think you miss his point.

Scenario: “A burglar breaks in the house and your kid doesn’t know it yet. You wake them up and TELL THEM to go hide in the closet. Your kids, based on your practice of them NEEDING to know why at all times, don’t go hide until you explain in fully why they need to.”

Meanwhile, the way I was raised, I am going to hide in the closet because dad told me to, not because he sat down and explained WHY in detail at all times.

The key to that kid surviving in that circumstance now relies on them being quiet and listening when told to do something.

No, no kids always need to know WHY right now. They need to learn to listen when told as well because who knows when them simply shutting up and doing as told could even save their life.

In my house growing up, you did what you were told to do BECAUSE your parents told you to do it. Yes, there may be some explanations as well but your obedience did not rely on an explanation.

It should NEVER rely on the explanation…at least if your parents did their job well.[/quote]


Again, you have this style or arguing where you exaggerate and stretch other people’s opinions. No one here advocated explaining every minute detail to your kid…some of us here try to explain as much as possible. Does that mean because we try to explain and TEACH, that we don’t expect a child to do what the child is told when it is told? No one said that, but you sure are taking something and running with it to stretch it to absurdity for the sake of your point.

Do you have kids? I don’t believe you do. If this were a BB thread, you’d be here telling like yourself to STFU, that you don’t count, and go eat and get back to us. Amiwrong?
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I think you (PX) should take really take note of what TBG said here because it’s so true.

You are SO quick to tear someone a new arse (in the BB forum) if they fail to meet your criteria of ‘experience’ and or ‘development’ yet you are here, preaching the preach, even though you have no kids?

I am not discounting other people’s opinions here (ain’t got the time) only yours! This is simply on the basis of other arguments you put forth (esp. in the BB forum) that are ‘always’ built on the premise of, among other things ‘experience’, which in this case you have none!

Using your logic you are the equivalent of a 150lb, 15inch bicep fan boy giving out advice in the BB forum to the 250lb, 20inch bicep brigade. Can you see that?

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

Art Critic: One who failed entry into art school and now wants to take it out on real artists.
(Didn’t Hitler start out like this?)
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True. He didn’t quite cut it so he turned his hand to politics instead…
Shame. It would’ve saved a lot of misery and influenced a few thousand less doucheballs if he was otherwise occupied with, to quote Legendaryblaze, “doodling”.

So strange that Hitler’s legacy was the making of him as an artist:

And all he needed to do was spearhead a fascist campaign of terror.

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
You people are pussies, holy fuck.
You make it sound like they are raping the kid.[/quote]

You’re an idiot.
Good luck raising your own kids. I feel sorry for them.[/quote]

Says the idiot who tried to convince people that being an artist was “important” to society.

Some people have been smacked across the face. Some used to have soap put in their mouth.
A little hot sauce and a 30 second cold shower? Puh- lease.
You fucking faggots talk about being hardcore, you sound like a bunch of pussies.
I bet your kids are (gonna be) self entitled slackers. [/quote]

legendaryblaze…

legendary-fucking-eejit more like. Man you’re a dumb fucker!

This woman is not the worst, but she is certainly no role model, and her drawn out methodology borders on torture.

I’m surprised and impressed by some of the fathers on here. BG you seem to have really mellowed over the years on this board, and fatherhood can do that to you.

I don’t hit my kids. Not that I have never wanted to, but I just no longer think it works in the greater scheme. I came into fatherhood with the thought that corporal punishment was effective because that is how I was raised. However, I came to the realization that it was fear, not respect that it encouraged. I got my ass beat a few times, until at about fifteen my dad came at me and I told him if it made him feel like a man to go ahead and hit me. He walked away and I was never beaten by him again.

This kid lied because he was scared of the repercussions. He knew if he was caught it would be worse and yet he still lied. If psychical punishment worked would he have lied?

I don’t have all the answers and am just getting into the rebellious years with two girls eleven and thirteen. I do know however that taking away privileges and my obvious disappointment in their actions is usually enough to set them on the correct path.

As far as anyone without kids chiming in because they were raised by parents instead of wolves, you have absolutely no clue and no leg to stand on that you do.

About the hot sauce.

I can’t remember the name, but that is not Tabasco she is using and it is a relatively mild hot sauce. However, there are many sauces that would be torture. I like hot stuff A LOT, like Habanero sauce in my lasagna hot, and I have had some that made me vomit from a teaspoon in a bowel of chili. So it really is a matter of degrees on whether this is abuse or not.

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I don’t hit my kids. Not that I have never wanted to, but I just no longer think it works in the greater scheme. I came into fatherhood with the thought that corporal punishment was effective because that is how I was raised. However, I came to the realization that it was fear, not respect that it encouraged. I got my ass beat a few times, until at about fifteen my dad came at me and I told him if it made him feel like a man to go ahead and hit me. He walked away and I was never beaten by him again.
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It’s interesting how you come into parenthood with rigid ideals and ‘how things will be in my house’. Not that that’s a bad thing, it’s natural, but the reality is that no one is prepared for the things kids will do, what you will do, what they will say, or the things you will hear yourself say when you have kids.

A few days of one sick kid is enough to change the whole family dynamic. Sleep deprivation for those who are used to their nice cozy time schedule is the best. Learning that screaming in the face of a 5 year old to stop crying only makes them scream louder because they physically can’t stop. Let alone if you’re blessed with girls.

This came out of my mouth:

(Kid 2 younger than Kid 1)

<driving in car, kid 2 screams like in serious pain, like a liver exploded or something>

Me to Kid2: “Why are you screaming??!?”

Kid2: “She gave my bunny magical fairy powers!! I didn’t WANT (the bunny) to have magical fairy powers!!!”

Me (to Kid1): “Did you give the bunny magical fairy powers?!”

Kid1: “Yes!”

Kid2: “WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!”

Me: “Will you PLLLEEEZZZZEE revoke the magical fairy powers??!”

Kid1: “What’s that mean? Ree-voke?”

Me: “WHAT? Take them away!!! Take back the magical fairy powers NOW!”

Kid1: “Well she WANTED magical fairy powers”

Kid2: “NOT THE BUUUUNNNYYYYY!!!”

Me: “NOOOWWWW!”

Kid1: “JEEEZ OK!!! It’s just magica…”

Me and wife in unison: “NNNOOOOWW!”

Kid1: “O” .. “Kaaaaaaay”!!!

Me: “You can’t just go around assigning magical fairy powers to bunnies!!”

Me to wife: “Did I just really say that?”

I’m sorry, but hot sauce and cold showers and regular beatings will not prevent this scenario.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

It’s interesting how you come into parenthood with rigid ideals and ‘how things will be in my house’. Not that that’s a bad thing, it’s natural, but the reality is that no one is prepared for the things kids will do, what you will do, what they will say, or the things you will hear yourself say when you have kids.

A few days of one sick kid is enough to change the whole family dynamic. Sleep deprivation for those who are used to their nice cozy time schedule is the best. Learning that screaming in the face of a 5 year old to stop crying only makes them scream louder because they physically can’t stop. Let alone if you’re blessed with girls.

This came out of my mouth:

(Kid 2 younger than Kid 1)

<driving in car, kid 2 screams like in serious pain, like a liver exploded or something>

Me to Kid2: “Why are you screaming??!?”

Kid2: “She gave my bunny magical fairy powers!! I didn’t WANT (the bunny) to have magical fairy powers!!!”

Me (to Kid1): “Did you give the bunny magical fairy powers?!”

Kid1: “Yes!”

Kid2: “WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!”

Me: “Will you PLLLEEEZZZZEE revoke the magical fairy powers??!”

Kid1: “What’s that mean? Ree-voke?”

Me: “WHAT? Take them away!!! Take back the magical fairy powers NOW!”

Kid1: “Well she WANTED magical fairy powers”

Kid2: “NOT THE BUUUUNNNYYYYY!!!”

Me: “NOOOWWWW!”

Kid1: “JEEEZ OK!!! It’s just magica…”

Me and wife in unison: “NNNOOOOWW!”

Kid1: “O” .. “Kaaaaaaay”!!!

Me: “You can’t just go around assigning magical fairy powers to bunnies!!”

Me to wife: “Did I just really say that?”

I’m sorry, but hot sauce and cold showers and regular beatings will not prevent this scenario.[/quote]

LOL!

Sleep deprivation on its own is bloody tough and can turn the sanest, most happy go lucky person into a bumbling idiot or a rabid beast but factor in a sick child and a screaming baby, then it’s a whole other ball game!

My mother always said “you will never know until you have your own” and I was like yeh yeh, lol, little did I know…

[quote]worzel wrote:
My mother always said “you will never know until you have your own” and I was like yeh yeh, lol, little did I know…[/quote]

When I used to pontificate to my mother about how I was going to raise my kids, she gave me the old “Mother’s Curse”:

“Really? Well, then I hope your kids are just.like.YOU!

Dammed if I didn’t get 3 of the little bastards (so far)!!

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]worzel wrote:
My mother always said “you will never know until you have your own” and I was like yeh yeh, lol, little did I know…[/quote]

When I used to pontificate to my mother about how I was going to raise my kids, she gave me the old “Mother’s Curse”:

“Really? Well, then I hope your kids are just.like.YOU!

Dammed if I didn’t get 3 of the little bastards (so far)!![/quote]

My brother hit the nail on the head when he commented on my eldest daughter “you are so screwed, she’s you in a skirt”. Yep, she can be a challenge.

[quote]colt44 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

It seems like you have been raised to think little children should be [part of decision making processes. They shouldn’t in my opinion.

If I tell a little kid don’t eat that cookie and they do, it doesn’t fucking matter WHY they ate. They disobeyed an order and that order was made for a reason that a little child may not be able to understand…which is why they have PARENTS.[/quote]

Bingo. I used to ask my kids if they wanted X, Y or Z for dinner…between the 2 of them, they could not ever agree and one if not both were always upset at the outcome and I could never seem to recover. I’ve made this mistake, but it is a particular style that does not work. Parents feel they are making a more well rounded, decisive child if they are consulted about a lot of decisions…they end up being narcissistic in the end moreso than a regular child.

Now, they get what I give them for lunch or dinner. No arguing, and they better appreciate it…like it or not!
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Can you point me to the peer reviewed studies supporting your learned conclusions above? Or are we talking about a study of one household? [/quote]

Dude, if you want a peer review for my points, then you must bring them as well for yours. This is MY experience with my kids, as well as many others I have witnessed.

There is NO RIGHT and NO WRONG way to parent proven by science. This is my experience as a father.

What is your hard on about with regard to what I said above?
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You made conclusions. I have done no such thing. I have given my opinion.

“I’ve made this mistake, but it is a particular style that does not work. Parents feel they are making a more well rounded, decisive child if they are consulted about a lot of decisions…they end up being narcissistic in the end moreso than a regular child.” [/quote]

Right…I guess my conclusion is a hypothesis to you, but in my house, the more rope you give, the more a kid will hang themselves by making bad choices. If you are not an authority figure (Hands off) then the kids will run rampant. It’s a parents job to make sure they guided, and not left to their own devices.

What’s the problem in that?
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Can you please explain to me the connection between “authority figure” as you put it and the video we witnessed? Can you please refer me to the post where someone said they shouldn’t be the “authority figure”. And finally, can you please explain to me where someone advocated a “hands off” approach to parenting?[/quote]

I said it earlier
“hands Off” and you replied that I meant people need to hit their children.

Anyway, I’m done with you, you just want to argue no matter what.

You have no right to judge another method as shown in the video. You don’t know the full story, you don’t know any of the childs past etc. There are more effective ways, yes, but in this case you KNOW NOTHING about the household situation and the kids behavior pattern. Tobasco and a shower…For fucking lying straight up AFTER you get in trouble at school 3 times. She took action.

I have an 8 year old that would lie ALL THE TIME when she was 5-7. Sitting down and explaining it to her does not work, she still lied. I took action, not in the form of the video or violence in any way, but I took shit away and she screamed bloody murder worse than the kid in the vid.

My point is you cannot be holier than thou, which you seem to be projecting here.

As you said kids don’t come with a manual, and each kid is different…but you seem to know what’s in the fictitious document as well as what the child responds to best.
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you need to work on your parenting skills…i feel sorry for your children[/quote]

You feel sorry for his children? Why?

In fact, tell us about yourself. How did your parents raise an outstanding son? What wonderful things have you accomplished that most kids don’t? Any cures for cancer coming from your direction?[/quote]

Colt this is what I will say about this, in real life you would not dare say this to a grown man. Being a father myself if I heard a young person say this to another man I would be inclined to kick that young persons ass myself. You may have had a fucked up childhood and so you see everything from that viewpoint. So are you a father? NO I can answer that because a father would not have said that to another man. [/quote]

If i saw a father not being a good father I would feel absolutely obligated to say something for his child’s sake[/quote]

So you are now the ultimate judge of what constitutes good parenting? Are you a cop? Again if you came into a situation only knowing a part of the information and you tried to mouth off to a grown man about his parenting ability. Well the outcome would not be good for anybody. I am not debating about this mothers actions, that is a judgement call, however you want to call out a guy on the internet who has stated that he has never done this to his own kids.

Your opinion is shit and pointless unless you are a parent, sorry dont care how educated you are or whatever view point you think you can stand on. I am not going to give my opinion on being an inner city black man because no matter what I read I will never have experienced that in my life and could never relate. My .02.

[quote]worzel wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:

If a child is doing something wrong, they need to learn to no longer do that thing. Looking back to when I was a child, I didn’t need to know WHY I shouldn’t do something; what was important was just making sure I did not do it. Sometimes physical punishment is the best option for teaching this.

Why would I not go this route? I don’t think I have it in me to hit a child. That’s my personal weakness. I do like the idea of digging holes or running though. [/quote]

LOL @ theoretical parenting.

Children do need to know why something is wrong or they won’t learn or understand. I think the childless here don’t give single-digit aged children enough credit.

When does ‘why’ become important? Their 10th birthday? 11th? 8th? Sorry, but my kids are raised to ask questions and to understand EVERYTHING they do. Apply this to bodybuilding (“Why squat?”-- “Don’t worry about it, just shut up and squat”).

Naturally kids going to ask why they can’t do something. Does anyone really think otherwise? Do you want your kids to be mindless robots?

Is ‘just shut up and do what I say’ how kids should be educated in the classroom, too?

My neighbor, the single, childless PhD saw that we got movie screens for the van for a long trip. She said that she believes that those things ruin children and that they should be made to sit and admire the scenery (for a 10 hour trip). Apparently, some of you would agree. I’m going to guess that many with children would not.
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I think you miss his point.

Scenario: “A burglar breaks in the house and your kid doesn’t know it yet. You wake them up and TELL THEM to go hide in the closet. Your kids, based on your practice of them NEEDING to know why at all times, don’t go hide until you explain in fully why they need to.”

Meanwhile, the way I was raised, I am going to hide in the closet because dad told me to, not because he sat down and explained WHY in detail at all times.

The key to that kid surviving in that circumstance now relies on them being quiet and listening when told to do something.

No, no kids always need to know WHY right now. They need to learn to listen when told as well because who knows when them simply shutting up and doing as told could even save their life.

In my house growing up, you did what you were told to do BECAUSE your parents told you to do it. Yes, there may be some explanations as well but your obedience did not rely on an explanation.

It should NEVER rely on the explanation…at least if your parents did their job well.[/quote]


Again, you have this style or arguing where you exaggerate and stretch other people’s opinions. No one here advocated explaining every minute detail to your kid…some of us here try to explain as much as possible. Does that mean because we try to explain and TEACH, that we don’t expect a child to do what the child is told when it is told? No one said that, but you sure are taking something and running with it to stretch it to absurdity for the sake of your point.

Do you have kids? I don’t believe you do. If this were a BB thread, you’d be here telling like yourself to STFU, that you don’t count, and go eat and get back to us. Amiwrong?
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I think you (PX) should take really take note of what TBG said here because it’s so true.

You are SO quick to tear someone a new arse (in the BB forum) if they fail to meet your criteria of ‘experience’ and or ‘development’ yet you are here, preaching the preach, even though you have no kids?

I am not discounting other people’s opinions here (ain’t got the time) only yours! This is simply on the basis of other arguments you put forth (esp. in the BB forum) that are ‘always’ built on the premise of, among other things ‘experience’, which in this case you have none!

Using your logic you are the equivalent of a 150lb, 15inch bicep fan boy giving out advice in the BB forum to the 250lb, 20inch bicep brigade. Can you see that?
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Guy, I couldn’t care less if you don’t like me. I see your actions as far as bringing up a post just to expand on how much you don’t like my posts to be about as weak as you can get considering I hadn’t responded in this thread for almost two pages and your post basically acts like I have no validity to speak on anything regarding parenting. You are not responding to statements directly.

Comparing knowledge of child discipline to lifting weights is flawed. It would only be a correct analogy if you compared it to someone who didn’t train but grew up with and around other lifters…which WOULD give them insight into training to a LIMITED degree.

I don’t care what you think. I have little respect for you on this board.

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
About the hot sauce.

I can’t remember the name, but that is not Tabasco she is using and it is a relatively mild hot sauce. However, there are many sauces that would be torture. I like hot stuff A LOT, like Habanero sauce in my lasagna hot, and I have had some that made me vomit from a teaspoon in a bowel of chili. So it really is a matter of degrees on whether this is abuse or not.[/quote]

Wait…so it is a relatively mild hot sauce…and people are still acting like she killed the kid?

That isn’t a matter of degrees at all. She wasn’t torturing him the way people are making it seem if that is the case.

If “mild hot sauce” is now torture, then 98% of us were tortured growing up because I can guarantee a switch burns more than “mild hot sauce”.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
About the hot sauce.

I can’t remember the name, but that is not Tabasco she is using and it is a relatively mild hot sauce. However, there are many sauces that would be torture. I like hot stuff A LOT, like Habanero sauce in my lasagna hot, and I have had some that made me vomit from a teaspoon in a bowel of chili. So it really is a matter of degrees on whether this is abuse or not.[/quote]

Wait…so it is a relatively mild hot sauce…and people are still acting like she killed the kid?

That isn’t a matter of degrees at all. She wasn’t torturing him the way people are making it seem if that is the case.

If “mild hot sauce” is now torture, then 98% of us were tortured growing up because I can guarantee a switch burns more than “mild hot sauce”.[/quote]

Perhaps I phrased that wrong. I don’t think this is torture, but if it were hotter it could be construed as such.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

Says the idiot who tried to convince people that being an artist was “important” to society.
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So, idiot… imagine your world without artists.

Who do you think draws your favorite video games? Artists. Who paints the images on greeting cards you buy to express “your” feelings for a loved one? Who created the logos for the sports teams you root for or the bands you listen to? How about the clothes you wear… the cool graphics on T-shirts, the cut and design? Who drafts the designs for the buildings we work and dwell in, or that car you drive?

Damn right. Artists. The list is endless. Important to society?
You tell me, internet tough guy.
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So tragic.
I’ll take mathematicians and physicists any day over guys who doodle. Nothing wrong with drawing and painting, but for someone who does ONLY that, I fail to see the importance.

As for the pussy thing, BodyGuard, I was referring to discipline.

edit: Anyway, my point was that you need to discipline children.
Hot sauce and a cold shower is hardly anything compared to what some of us have gone through. I’m sure many parents of the posters here have gone through way worse, and turned out fine.
Stop acting like it’s a crime against humanity.[/quote]

Would you use a slide rule to execute another moonshot? Cause NASA did and it worked just fine for them.

Or would you rather use more modern technology?

Equating discipline to just physical punishment without regard to positive reinforcement or other forms of behavior modification is just reinventing a wheel that has been proven not to roll very far or very fast.

Using them doesn’t make a person a pussy. It makes them resourceful and able to think through a problem muti-modally. If you know problem solving, then you know that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

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This is correct. My problem is how people are freaking out over this when it is a valid method.
Sure, you could tell the child calmly a million times, but how do you people know she hasn’t already done this?
I repeat “a cold shower and a bit of hot sauce is no big deal”.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
What the fuck do YOU do, young man?
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Does it matter?

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
About the hot sauce.

I can’t remember the name, but that is not Tabasco she is using and it is a relatively mild hot sauce. However, there are many sauces that would be torture. I like hot stuff A LOT, like Habanero sauce in my lasagna hot, and I have had some that made me vomit from a teaspoon in a bowel of chili. So it really is a matter of degrees on whether this is abuse or not.[/quote]

Wait…so it is a relatively mild hot sauce…and people are still acting like she killed the kid?

That isn’t a matter of degrees at all. She wasn’t torturing him the way people are making it seem if that is the case.

If “mild hot sauce” is now torture, then 98% of us were tortured growing up because I can guarantee a switch burns more than “mild hot sauce”.[/quote]

Perhaps I phrased that wrong. I don’t think this is torture, but if it were hotter it could be construed as such. [/quote]

No, I understood YOU, but many here acting like she abused this kid. If this is abuse, then most of us were “abused” as kids. Mild hot sauce is not torture…and if I could have traded a whipping for cold water, I would have done so any day of the week.

If this ISN’T torture and ISN’T abuse, then what the hell are people bitching about for all of these pages?

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
About the hot sauce.

I can’t remember the name, but that is not Tabasco she is using and it is a relatively mild hot sauce. However, there are many sauces that would be torture. I like hot stuff A LOT, like Habanero sauce in my lasagna hot, and I have had some that made me vomit from a teaspoon in a bowel of chili. So it really is a matter of degrees on whether this is abuse or not.[/quote]

Pussy.

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

Does it matter? [/quote]

Well, when you degrade someones career openly, then yes, it absolutely does matter.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
About the hot sauce.

I can’t remember the name, but that is not Tabasco she is using and it is a relatively mild hot sauce. However, there are many sauces that would be torture. I like hot stuff A LOT, like Habanero sauce in my lasagna hot, and I have had some that made me vomit from a teaspoon in a bowel of chili. So it really is a matter of degrees on whether this is abuse or not.[/quote]

Pussy.[/quote]

I know right? Some of these extracts don’t even taste good, they are just beyond hot. Once ate seven whole pickled Habaneros on a dare, and it doesn’t even compare.