When the dog keeps shitting on the carpet, do you keep beating it?[/quote]
Somebody call?[/quote]
Aw, man! Brother did his time
Besides, you dunk that bitch if it loses.[/quote]
Yes he did his time, but we should still never forget.
This really is a pointless argument but its the internet. People have argued about Politics, Religeon and how to rasie kids since the beginning of fucking time. I just like to bring some levity since I have been raising 5 fucking teenagers until about a year ago.
When the dog keeps shitting on the carpet, do you keep beating it?[/quote]
Somebody call?[/quote]
Aw, man! Brother did his time
Besides, you dunk that bitch if it loses.[/quote]
Yes he did his time, but we should still never forget.
This really is a pointless argument but its the internet. People have argued about Politics, Religeon and how to rasie kids since the beginning of fucking time. I just like to bring some levity since I have been raising 5 fucking teenagers until about a year ago. [/quote]
Thereâs no doubt (ie. pointless).
And, when you really read the posts, most are all much closer on the issue of child punishment than it would seem, but as you say-- itâs the Internet. The thread grows by posturing, hyperbole and splitting hairs. The problem is you say âXYZ is ridiculousâ then someone says âYouâre too softâ-- RIDICULOUS!
Whatâs for one isnât for another. Thatâs always been true.
Iâm not looking forward to the teen years⊠THATâS when the beatings startâŠ
Fact is the worst part is the kid was a passenger in his own life with no influence over the consequences. When I was a kid my parents asked why, they listened, then they decided on punishment.[/quote]
Your parents asked why? If you were 8 years old and your parents told you NOT to go down the street by yourself and you did, they shouldnât be asking you why. They should be reprimanding you for disobeying orders. When did kids suddenly start getting in on the parenting? Little kids are for the most part passengers in their lives because their parents take care of them. They arenât paying bills, cooking meals or anything else.
The mom has almost certainly tried other forms of punishment and the hot sauce/cold shower combo is what the kid likes least so she stuck with it. Of course the kid was âscreaming in terrorâ. He was doing that 'cause heâs a fucking kid and he didnât like what was happening. Some kids âscream in terrorâ when theyâre told to eat their veggies or when their He-Man toy is taken away [someone can update the toy there].
What it looked like to me is a woman who is frustrated 'cause her badass kid keeps fucking up and she doesnât know what else to do. The punishment seems weird to me, but Iâm sure thereâs a reason for it. I was a really bad kid, and I could care less about causing trouble, I just didnât like being in trouble. But, my indifference to getting in trouble outweighed my distaste for being in trouble damn near every time so I kept fucking up.
That seems to be whatâs going on here. The people here cting like a hot sauce mouthwash cold shower punishment is worse than a fucking extension cord across the butt and thighs are out of their minds.
This punishment is way too severe for such a little sin. Children learn what they live.
Oh yeah, I used to get my mouth washed out with soap, too. But I still swear like a motherfucker. I was raised by my father, and when he and his buds played poker at our house, Ivory soap would have gone out of business.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
This punishment is way too severe for such a little sin. Children learn what they live.
Oh yeah, I used to get my mouth washed out with soap, too. But I still swear like a motherfucker. I was raised by my father, and when he and his buds played poker at our house, Ivory soap would have gone out of business.[/quote]
That soap thing must have gone out of favor when I was a kid because I never got that. I do know that every generation seems to be more lax as far as their discipline. Castor Oil was even used as discipline in old Tom and Jerry cartoonsâŠyet apparently, many here would have those same parents arrested.
Yes, styles of discipline may change over time, but kids sure as hell donât seem to be better people lately by being raised by parents who are afraid to touch them to correct them physically.
Some today would say your dad should have been in jail.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, I am still waiting to hear from all of you that had parents that never did anything that if caught on video would have some of you saying the same things about them.
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I am game. I cannot remember my parents doing anything to me that would garner this reaction. Granted I was the youngest with troublesome (some mental issues that could not be overcome in the household) older siblings and from as young an age as I can remember (pretty decent memory starting around 3 to 4) I strove to be the good kid to cut my parents a break.
So perhaps I am not the best example. That does not mean I was perfect, far from it. But for me the thought of disappointing my parents was, and still is, a huge influence on me.
I remember one spanking with a belt, do not know the occasion beyond I was in line because of solidarity with my siblings. My father knew this and let me have it as much, if not more, than the others. He has tears in his eyes, and I did not say a word. That was the last spanking in that house.
As a parent I subscribe to the idea that disciplining of a child is a serious and often painful experience for the parent. It is not something to be enjoyed by anyone involved. If the mother in the film appeared to gain satisfaction in the event then it crosses the line with me, not so much the action, but the intent of the mother.
That is, as others have mentioned, the real problem here. I believe in discipline and some would consider me rather strict, but I get no joy from doing it.
When the dog keeps shitting on the carpet, do you keep beating it?[/quote]
Somebody call?[/quote]
Aw, man! Brother did his time
Besides, you dunk that bitch if it loses.[/quote]
Yes he did his time, but we should still never forget.
This really is a pointless argument but its the internet. People have argued about Politics, Religeon and how to rasie kids since the beginning of fucking time. I just like to bring some levity since I have been raising 5 fucking teenagers until about a year ago. [/quote]
Thereâs no doubt (ie. pointless).
And, when you really read the posts, most are all much closer on the issue of child punishment than it would seem, but as you say-- itâs the Internet. The thread grows by posturing, hyperbole and splitting hairs. The problem is you say âXYZ is ridiculousâ then someone says âYouâre too softâ-- RIDICULOUS!
Whatâs for one isnât for another. Thatâs always been true.
Iâm not looking forward to the teen years⊠THATâS when the beatings start⊠;)[/quote]
My 14 year old Freshman girl step daughter who I have raised since she was 2 was very close to a beating Saturday night. Coming back into town from Grandparents house, took the family to Olive Garden (I wanted salad and soup after days of heating heavy). The 14 year old starts with the attitude saying that we know she doesnt like Italian food and is staying in the car (X5 BMW for reference). Well we go in take our time enjoy each other company and go out to the car and now the battery is dead. The car is all electric so we cant open the back or the glove box or anything. The 14 year answer, I didnt do anything wrong, yes I ran the radio lights and everything else. So now we are stuck on Inst 45 in Houston with a dead battery, no jumper cables and no way to call for road side help. Anyway teenagers are all brain Damaged.
So Professor, given the No Mark policy, what do you think of slamming a kids head around to the point of concussion and unconsciousness, or boxing the ears and inflicting permanent hearing loss?
[quote]DJHT wrote:
Anyway teenagers are all brain Damaged. [/quote]
Bill Cosbyâs take on itâŠ[/quote]
Thats where the wife and I got that from, just watched it again the other night. We have just one more in the house, but being the baby and a girl, dont know if the wife and I will make it out sane.
She is ENJOYING it, and thatâs the fucking problem. Not the sauce, not the shower. Not the belt that your mommy and daddy used, not the soap. If they discipline you for your sake, itâs ok. If they did it for fun, than itâs not ok.
The bitch is bullying her kid, apparently not for the first time. And from what I understand, he is not even her own.
The kid is helpless and he is getting his soul fucked.
Is it that hard to figure this out?
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
So Professor, given the No Mark policy, what do you think of slamming a kids head around to the point of concussion and unconsciousness, or boxing the ears and inflicting permanent hearing loss?
No marks. At least not highly visible.
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Could you please point out the specific sentence written somewhere that makes you think I believe causing permanent hearing loss isnât abuse? I want to read that post. I want to see those words myself.
because otherwise, I will assume that you are poorly looking for shit to loosely act like I am for causing lasting physical damage to a kid.
Most of the people here were spankedâŠyet many people now think spanking itself is abuse.
Which side are you on?
Quit cherry picking. You are either FOR physical discipline or NOT for it. There is no gray area.
[quote]MaliMedved wrote:
She is ENJOYING it, and thatâs the fucking problem. Not the sauce, not the shower. Not the belt that your mommy and daddy used, not the soap. If they discipline you for your sake, itâs ok. If they did it for fun, than itâs not ok.
The bitch is bullying her kid, apparently not for the first time. And from what I understand, he is not even her own.
The kid is helpless and he is getting his soul fucked.
Is it that hard to figure this out?[/quote]
I didnât see anything in that making it seem like she was having a blast.
If youâve gone to âhot sauce and cold showersâ as the âstandardâ punishment for a 5 year old (or so), youâve already lost.[/quote]
Very true. What also seems to be lost is discipline in the form of motivation to do right and good.
Taking it directly to physical punishment with complete disregard for any other approach or forms of behavior modification is just ignorant.
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These are all ASSUMPTIONS. You donât know anything about how many times this kid has done the same thing or whether other things were tried in the past. You saw ONE clip a few minutes long and deduced the kidâs entire history with that family?
My kids have felt the wrath of my palm on their ass. I can count on one finger the times thatâs happened.
Why only one? Because it was effective the first time. The threat is enough of a deterrent because the first time was at the time of infraction, swiftly, and not drawn out. They knew the why. If that didnât work, I wouldnât keep doing it (read: Edison definition of insanity).
Theyâve now (still single digit age) earned enough âstuffâ and âactivitiesâ from good behavior that the threat of taking that stuff away is enough. Taking away stuff like computer time, games, etc. happens often for various things. It works.
When my oldest occasionally mouths off or is disrespectful, she getâs the Italian wassamatta-you-smacka-to-the-backa-da-head. I get a nasty look from the kid and the wife and itâs over. She once said something offensive to a friends parent and was made to apologize in front of their family. That was a quite effective lesson without having to put her in a cold shower to teach her to have respect for elders and she gets it.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
So Professor, given the No Mark policy, what do you think of slamming a kids head around to the point of concussion and unconsciousness, or boxing the ears and inflicting permanent hearing loss?
No marks. At least not highly visible.
[/quote]
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Could you please point out the specific sentence written somewhere that makes you think I believe causing permanent hearing loss isnât abuse? I want to read that post. I want to see those words myself.
because otherwise, I will assume that you are poorly looking for shit to loosely act like I am for causing lasting physical damage to a kid.
Most of the people here were spankedâŠyet many people now think spanking itself is abuse.
Which side are you on?
Quit cherry picking. You are either FOR physical discipline or NOT for it. There is no gray area.[/quote]
Well, that is a real example, done to someone I am very close to, and it fits the criteria of No Marks. Swift too. Apparently, you can knock a small child out cold pretty quickly with a good crack off of a wall stud or a typewriter to the back of the head.
For the record, Iâm for it as an absolutely last resort, and within certain boundaries. You see, given what Iâve experienced, Iâve had to look for other options, and believe me, there are other options.
If youâve gone to âhot sauce and cold showersâ as the âstandardâ punishment for a 5 year old (or so), youâve already lost.[/quote]
Very true. What also seems to be lost is discipline in the form of motivation to do right and good.
Taking it directly to physical punishment with complete disregard for any other approach or forms of behavior modification is just ignorant.
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These are all ASSUMPTIONS. You donât know anything about how many times this kid has done the same thing or whether other things were tried in the past. You saw ONE clip a few minutes long and deduced the kidâs entire history with that family?[/quote]
As would be the assumption that she did, or did with any amount of follow through or consistency sufficient to have an effect.
But then, if you were to assume that she did in fact try other things with sufficient consistency to have an effect, then it would be all the worse, because then the punishment observed would be purely sadistic.
