Worst Music Ever Devised?

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[quote]That One Guy wrote:
Oh and on a side note, relativism is worthless. Saying there is no bad music, only music you dislike is crap. As worthless as saying there is no good or bad, only morals that are right for each group of people.[/quote]

It wasn’t really about bad versus good music.

It’s just I had a feeling there would be some hypocrisy from someone who posts about art music, all the while having the close minded definition of art that would make a real artist cringe. Most of my posts keep stressing that by his definitions and views, he isn’r ready to talk about pop music on the whole.

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
Oh and on a side note, relativism is worthless. Saying there is no bad music, only music you dislike is crap. As worthless as saying there is no good or bad, only morals that are right for each group of people.

It wasn’t really about bad versus good music.

It’s just I had a feeling there would be some hypocrisy from someone who posts about art music, all the while having the close minded definition of art that would make a real artist cringe. Most of my posts keep stressing that by his definitions and views, he isn’r ready to talk about pop music on the whole. [/quote]

Not aimed at you.

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I like some of brokencyde, heaps good hip-hop beat
slipknot and shit piss me off but, no beat , cant understand a god damn word

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You guys don’t like this music because you are listening to the mainstream portion which is for the most part horrible and for suburban kids.

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The “Lean like A Cholo” song they remade into a San Diego Chargers anthem.

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Every genre has good and bad music.

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[quote]DSmolken wrote:
Therizza wrote:
Dude wtf is that Goatbomb shit?

It’s my band! I decided to do this when I realized that the music my other bands’ fans hate with an insane passion is a hell of a lot more fun than anything else I’ve ever played.[/quote]

Yo, DS, way to go!

You know what I know, it’s all about the bass.

All music, all genres, the bassist makes it work.

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[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
Shadowzz4 wrote:
I think the most universally despised type of music is country. How many times have you heard someone say, I listen to everything, except country, I hate country. And I do, hate country.

I dunno man, at least in the States country music seems to be big (I’d imagine the biggest) force on radio and their artists still do really well in touring and record sales. These are all traditional methods of aggregating an artist’s/genre’s popularity and if you factored in much more modern measures of success they’d fare much lower, so you could say that amongst older people it’s more popular but I don’t think younger people HATE country. I certainly don’t, I just don’t listen to it or know anything about it. People hate genre’s that they don’t like but are exposed to “too much”. I never have to deal with country.

Country is the least played thing on the radio up here in NY.
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Well just because you listen to your radio stations and do not know anyone who does doesn’t mean it is the least. It is about number one in every state.

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#1 selling music artist right now (and it’s not particularly close) is country.

FWIW, I think good music is just music that you enjoy. I can’t stand music snobs who refuse to acknowledge anything on the radio because it’s “too mainstream.” Or talk about how music from [insert generation] was so much better, etc. etc.

Case in point… I think AC/DC is terrible. Same damn chords over and over again, every song sounds just about the same to me and all they do in half the song is just repeat the hook over and over again. To me it’s terribly boring and about as annoying as Soulja Boy. But a lot of people love them, so they must be doing something right.

As far as country goes, to me, country is just rap for white people. For the most part, both genres are extremely formulaic, rely on really basic beats and hooks and both have some absolutely terrible lyrics. With that said, there’s some really good stuff in both genres and I happen to like plenty of both. I think I have to be one of the few people that have seen Toby Keith and GZA perform live within the span of 3 days.

For my vote of “worst of all time,” I actually have to disagree with flash. At least girls can shake their ass to Reggaeton. Anything by the Talking Heads or any of those late-70s new-age bands qualifies as the worst music ever.

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[quote]jtrinsey wrote:

As far as country goes, to me, country is just rap for white people. For the most part, both genres are extremely formulaic, rely on really basic beats and hooks and both have some absolutely terrible lyrics. With that said, there’s some really good stuff in both genres and I happen to like plenty of both. I think I have to be one of the few people that have seen Toby Keith and GZA perform live within the span of 3 days.

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In defense of country music, I think the vast majority of what you hear are just pop stars packaged as “county musicians”. The teenage angst ridden lyric themes of Taylor Swift and the lilly livered, love song singing, Hollister wearing Rascal Flatts are prime examples. And for fuck’s sake, how many redneck themed, “I’m from the real Muricka” songs can we possible hear on a radio station?

There are a couple contemporary country artists that are good. I think Gretchen Wilson has a very traditional country/western voice. And for every goofy party song she has, she will write a classic sounding country song.

Toby Keith, putting aside his lame patriotic songs, has his moments as well. There are a few others, but more often than not, you have to search outside the mainstream to find some good artists.

As for the terrible lyrics or “white man’s rap”, I’m not sure I agree. If anything, country and western music is closer musically to the Blues genre. I think lyrically most country and western songs are very simple, but to qualify that as “terrible” I’m not so sure.

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[quote]Dustin wrote:
If anything, country and western music is closer musically to the Blues genre.[/quote]

And where do you think rap came from?

I’m not trying to shit on country- I probably listen to it more than any genre of music. But a lot of the stuff is extremely formulaic. See: “People are crazy” or “Smalltown USA.” Nashville rolls out music in assembly-line style; they hire people to sit in studios all day and write or work on guitar riffs. When they get something that sounds good, the record execs give it to one of the name stars (Kenny Chesney, although I do like his music, is famous for not coming up with any of it) to turn into a hit single.

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[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
DSmolken wrote:
Therizza wrote:
Dude wtf is that Goatbomb shit?

It’s my band! I decided to do this when I realized that the music my other bands’ fans hate with an insane passion is a hell of a lot more fun than anything else I’ve ever played.

Yo, DS, way to go!

You know what I know, it’s all about the bass.

All music, all genres, the bassist makes it work.

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I’m gonna tell yer drummer what you said lol.

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[quote]Dustin wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:

As far as country goes, to me, country is just rap for white people. For the most part, both genres are extremely formulaic, rely on really basic beats and hooks and both have some absolutely terrible lyrics. With that said, there’s some really good stuff in both genres and I happen to like plenty of both. I think I have to be one of the few people that have seen Toby Keith and GZA perform live within the span of 3 days.

As for the terrible lyrics or “white man’s rap”, I’m not sure I agree. If anything, country and western music is closer musically to the Blues genre. I think lyrically most country and western songs are very simple, but to qualify that as “terrible” I’m not so sure.[/quote]

Just like with any other genre of music, there’s great stuff there, but you need to dig a bit to find it.

As for the lyrical content, I happen to be of the opinion that some of the flat-out best lyricists/songwriters we’ve ever had come from the country world: Guys like Kristofferson, Hayes Carll, Robert Earl Keen, Townes Van Zandt, John Prine, Guy Clark, etc, have written write songs that are as close to high art as anything created in any genre of music. Certainly well beyond the extreme majority of rock/pop/rap lyricists.

But you won’t hear it unless you look for it.

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[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
Dustin wrote:
If anything, country and western music is closer musically to the Blues genre.

And where do you think rap came from?

I’m not trying to shit on country- I probably listen to it more than any genre of music. But a lot of the stuff is extremely formulaic. See: “People are crazy” or “Smalltown USA.” Nashville rolls out music in assembly-line style; they hire people to sit in studios all day and write or work on guitar riffs. When they get something that sounds good, the record execs give it to one of the name stars (Kenny Chesney, although I do like his music, is famous for not coming up with any of it) to turn into a hit single.[/quote]

I had a totally different response typed out to this post, but it didn’t go through.

Anyway, country music hasn’t always been this predictable or cliche. So, while I agree with what you said in the paragraph, I think it isn’t fair to compare contemporary country music, which I will call it just for the sake of this argument, to pre-Shania Twain country music.

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[quote]SinisterMinister wrote:
Dustin wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:

As far as country goes, to me, country is just rap for white people. For the most part, both genres are extremely formulaic, rely on really basic beats and hooks and both have some absolutely terrible lyrics. With that said, there’s some really good stuff in both genres and I happen to like plenty of both. I think I have to be one of the few people that have seen Toby Keith and GZA perform live within the span of 3 days.

As for the terrible lyrics or “white man’s rap”, I’m not sure I agree. If anything, country and western music is closer musically to the Blues genre. I think lyrically most country and western songs are very simple, but to qualify that as “terrible” I’m not so sure.

Just like with any other genre of music, there’s great stuff there, but you need to dig a bit to find it.

As for the lyrical content, I happen to be of the opinion that some of the flat-out best lyricists/songwriters we’ve ever had come from the country world: Guys like Kristofferson, Hayes Carll, Robert Earl Keen, Townes Van Zandt, John Prine, Guy Clark, etc, have written write songs that are as close to high art as anything created in any genre of music. Certainly well beyond the extreme majority of rock/pop/rap lyricists.

But you won’t hear it unless you look for it.

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You definitely have to look for it.

Although he has more of Southern Rock sound, Shooter Jennings is quite good, but I don’t think I have ever heard him on the radio. I also like Hank III, but you sure as hell won’t here him on the radio.

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two kinds of music… good and bad…

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[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
I think the most universally despised type of music is country. How many times have you heard someone say, I listen to everything, except country, I hate country. And I do, hate country.[/quote]

why are they all millionaires then?
Do you not like the soundtrack of O’Brother Where Art Though? I think that album is pretty cool, and I don’t listen to country.

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[quote]BlaZe wrote:
Shadowzz4 wrote:
I think the most universally despised type of music is country. How many times have you heard someone say, I listen to everything, except country, I hate country. And I do, hate country.

why are they all millionaires then?
Do you not like the soundtrack of O’Brother Where Art Though? I think that album is pretty cool, and I don’t listen to country.[/quote]

Isn’t that bluegrass?..Country Metal lol.

Some of the country song titles are funny though…“I hate every bone in your body accept mine”

I think Pucifer did it best with “Country Boner”…fucking hilarious.

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It takes NO talent to rap. I can teach a monkey to do it.

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[quote]Beauzo wrote:
It takes NO talent to rap. I can teach a monkey to do it.[/quote]

Anyone can rap; it takes talent to rap well.

Just like anyone can sing…