[quote]lixy wrote:
Mahmoud is dangerous to whom? And why do you think he’s ignorant? I don’t know if you’re aware, but the guy holds a Ph.D.
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And Saddam was a lawyer. I don’t know how he obtained that Ph.D., but I’m guessing when you’re a dictator you can quite easily “convince” a university to give you that.
If I’m wrong about how he obtained it, please correct me. Interested to know about it.
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[quote]lixy wrote:
AdamC wrote:
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/ahmadinejad+we+can+help+secure+iraq/794447
This interview was on British TV a week or so ago. Ahmadinejad pretty much denies the Holocaust in this interview. See the link for the issue of Israel.
Did you watch the interview? He doesn’t deny the Holocaust in it. Denying the occurrence of an event is a very different matter from attempting to investigate it. [/quote]
John Snow asks “Do you regret denying the Holocaust?”
Ahmadinejad does not at any point say “I did not deny the holocaust.” You would think that would be his immediate response to the question, wouldn’t you? He seems to skirt around the issue in all honesty.
[quote]AdamC wrote:
John Snow asks “Do you regret denying the Holocaust?” [/quote]
Textbook biased question.
Ahamadinejad never denied the Holocaust. He raised a couple of questions from which one can infer that he has some doubts about the event. His statements in that regard are immoral and uninformed, but by no mean can it be considered denial of the Holocaust as some around here present it.
He has always been asking for evidence on the Holocaust, and while I disagree with him and think it’s tasteless, I would still defend his right to inquire the matter. The second issue he usually raises is, why weren’t the victims given land in Germany instead of letting them turn the life of Palestinians into hell.
Again, I don’t agree with the man. I’m just pointing out that it’s a leap to accuse him of denying the Holocaust.
[quote]Tokoya wrote:
Lixy,
Then explain - and apologize for - islamic jihad.
That is a war of aggression.
“Are we clear”? [/quote]
WHAT “islamic jihad” should he apologize for? Besides “9/11” – how many violent attacks by Muslims have there been in the US since then? Any shootings or stabbings (or would it always have to be a suicide bomb)? Have you even heard of a publicized case of a Muslim getting in a fist fight!?
Well, there was that one incident…
Hate Crime Charges Filed Against Five Jewish Teenagers in Brooklyn
NY Sun
November 3, 2006
Five Jewish teenagers have been charged with hate crimes for attacking a Pakistani-American man with brass knuckles in the Midwood section of Brooklyn and calling him a “terrorist,” officials said…
New Database Debunks Terrorism Myths
The majority of terrorist attacks result in no fatalities, with just 1 percent of such attacks causing the deaths of 25 or more people…
The searchable database parses the data by more than 100 variables, ranging from type of perpetrator–such as religious or ethno-nationalist–to type of weapon used and the number of injuries incurred. Summaries of each incident divulge the date, location, weapons used, target type, number of casualties and, when possible, the perpetrator…
From 1998 through 2004, India reportedly experienced the greatest number of terror attacks (1,000), followed by Colombia, the Russian Federation and Iraq, which came in fourth with nearly 500 attacks…
Statistics: Global Terrorism Indicator (Latest available) by country
Remember the good ole’ days…
Car bombings once popular mob tactic in Las Vegas
“Go to Hell”
TIME
Apr. 09, 1928
Bombings. In Chicagoese, “pineapple” is a euphemism for an ugly, black, egg-shaped object known elsewhere as a hand-grenade. Since the first of the year they have been utilized 21 times by racketeers angry for one reason or another with fellow racketeers, politicians, bootleggers, gamblers. Last week “pineapples” exploded on the doorsteps of U. S. Senator Charles S. Deneen and Judge John A. Swanson. The results were mild for Chicago; no one was killed; only the fronts of two houses were blown to splinters.
Then, four days later, a thing too big to be called a “pineapple” failed to explode in the South Water Street market when wet snow snuffed out its sputtering fuse. It contained 17 sticks of dynamite, enough to wipe out an entire city block…
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,787081,00.html?promoid=googlep
North Side Gang
MANIAC BLOWS UP SCHOOL, KILLS 42, MOSTLY CHILDREN; HAD PROTESTED HIGH TAXES
The New York Times - May 19, 1927
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~bauerle/nyt519.txt
The Bath School Disaster
On May 18, 1927, 45 people, mostly children, were killed and 58 were injured when disgruntled and demented school board member Andrew Kehoe dynamited the new school building in Bath, Michigan out of revenge over his foreclosed farm due in part to the taxes required to pay for the new school.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
JustTheFacts wrote:
Think about ANY OTHER point in history where you HAVE TO believe it (or keep it to yourself) that is punishable BY LAW?
So, did you go? How was it? Did you meet Ahmadinejad?[/quote]
A picture PERFECT lesson in Holocaust propaganda…
http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/arts/20070919_ALBUM_FEATURE/index.html#
[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
Do you understand that these countries view U.S. military bases on their soil as subsidies towards their own defense force?
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Just to support this, did anyone see a special of US forces in Georgia? The country, not the state. They are helping the armed forces there and the people love it because they fear invasion by near by Muslim and Russian forces.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
Iran certainly does. You forgot about the attacks on UN peace keepers in Lebanon. That was totally uncalled for.
You consider a single attack (by proxy) war? I’m afraid we’re gonna have to agree to disagree.
War is when you mobilize your troops and start bombing cities villages.[/quote]
The Iranians used their influence in Lebanon to bomb cities and villages. I believe this could be considered an act of war.
In your view, it’s only wrong or a crime when the US attacks someone using proxies. I forgot.
[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
Tokoya wrote:
Lixy,
Then explain - and apologize for - islamic jihad.
That is a war of aggression.
“Are we clear”?
WHAT “islamic jihad” should he apologize for? Besides “9/11” – how many violent attacks by Muslims have there been in the US since then? Any shootings or stabbings (or would it always have to be a suicide bomb)? Have you even heard of a publicized case of a Muslim getting in a fist fight!?
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“An Egyptian man named Hesham Mohamed Hadayet strode up to the El Al ticket counter at Los Angeles Airport on July 4 carrying two loaded revolvers, extra cartridges, and a six-inch knife. He shot and killed a young female ticket agent, fatally wounded a middle-aged businessman, wounded several others, and then stabbed an El Al security guard before being shot and killed by another guard.”
And Before:
"On 25 January 1993, Mir Aimal Kansi , a Pakistani living in the US since 1991, stood waiting near the gate of the CIA’s 258 acre headquarters in Langley. He was looking for two CIA agents and obviously knew his men. He spotted the car carrying the targets and went to it when it halted at the stop light on Dolly Madison Boulevard, barely 500 yards from the main gate. He pulled out a AK-47 assault rifle and shot the men inside, spared a woman passenger and sped away. His victims were Lansing C. Bennet, who was described in a Washington Post story as a “physician and intelligence analyst for the CIA”, and Frank Darling, who was “assigned to tasks involving covert operations. Three others inside were ermanently injured, also identified as CIA agents.”
There was also the first attack on the World Trade Center.
Sorry if I missed one.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
JustTheFacts wrote:
WHAT “islamic jihad” should he apologize for? Besides “9/11” – how many violent attacks by Muslims have there been in the US since then? Any shootings or stabbings (or would it always have to be a suicide bomb)? Have you even heard of a publicized case of a Muslim getting in a fist fight!?
“An Egyptian man named Hesham Mohamed Hadayet strode up to the El Al ticket counter at Los Angeles Airport on July 4 carrying two loaded revolvers, extra cartridges, and a six-inch knife. He shot and killed a young female ticket agent, fatally wounded a middle-aged businessman, wounded several others, and then stabbed an El Al security guard before being shot and killed by another guard.”
And Before:
"On 25 January 1993, Mir Aimal Kansi , a Pakistani living in the US since 1991, stood waiting near the gate of the CIA’s 258 acre headquarters in Langley. He was looking for two CIA agents and obviously knew his men. He spotted the car carrying the targets and went to it when it halted at the stop light on Dolly Madison Boulevard, barely 500 yards from the main gate. He pulled out a AK-47 assault rifle and shot the men inside, spared a woman passenger and sped away. His victims were Lansing C. Bennet, who was described in a Washington Post story as a “physician and intelligence analyst for the CIA”, and Frank Darling, who was “assigned to tasks involving covert operations. Three others inside were ermanently injured, also identified as CIA agents.”
There was also the first attack on the World Trade Center.
Sorry if I missed one.
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WOW, that really is a “jihad”, I stand corrected.
Btw, the first WTC bombing was just another one of those FBI sting operations “gone awry”. The feds were coordinating with an inside informant and were actually in a position to swap out the real bomb for a fake, but of course they didn’t – your just not supposed to remember that part…
Life imitating art…