Hmmm, ya. I definitely see where everyones coming from. Maybe i got suckered in by his client transformation account he has on IG, who knows. Iv emailed his personal with most of the questions I have here. Lets see what they say.
The important thing is that you believe in it and give it 100%. Don’t hire a coach and then go looking for others to tell you what you want to hear.
If you want to drop that guy and get coaching elsewhere, I recommend Shelby Starnes.
Whoever you pick, follow the diet and program, and give it time to work.
90-100 fat is low?
90 is about as low as I’d go at estimated 200 lb LBM. A smaller guy could have a proportionally lower figure.
Personally, i thought whilst on a cutting diet, carbs would be low, but everything else is high. Does his prescribed amount of carbs really make sense?
so are the carbs at a good level done? I just cant comprehend the high carbs for a cutting diet. especially after reading articles on here.
You weigh 250. The amount of carbs prescribed is not that high for the start of a diet. I’m sure you’ll be upping the cardio and reducing cals soon enough, have some patience.
OP, please don’t take this as a personal attack because I’m trying to be constructive, but you look like you’ve barely ever touched a weight. IMO, you are really not at the point where hiring a “world renowned” trainer makes sense financially or even as it pertains to training: if you had the time and discipline and such to stick with what this guy is going to be giving you, you would have a more developed physique already.
This is just to say that you would probably be best off maintaining a really simple diet (target total calories and protein grams) and a basic lifting program and follow that for a few months. That should be sufficient to get you results instead of sinking money into some trainer. I just hate to see you waste your money when you’d be better off just focusing on the simple stuff at this juncture.
[quote]ESPguitarist1990 wrote:
Personally, i thought whilst on a cutting diet, carbs would be low, but everything else is high. Does his prescribed amount of carbs really make sense?[/quote]
Its 30%! Its less than 25% of his maintenance calories.
This is a 250 pound guy who’s going to be working out, and people are calling 200 grams of carbs a high carb diet? Its like 150 plus post WO carbs.
And if you go lower, like 100 grams there is little room to reduce. This is pretty much exactly where I would start somebody to see how they respond, and I am a high fat diet guy.
[quote]ESPguitarist1990 wrote:
so are the carbs at a good level done? I just cant comprehend the high carbs for a cutting diet. especially after reading articles on here.[/quote]
I am a lowish carb guy, but if you have to go much below 200 grams to cut when your 250 pounds and at least 20% bodyfat I don’t get it.
Dude if you went sub 100 grams of carbs and liked it because you lost 7 pounds in the first week, that is exactly what not to do. Its glycogen depletion and water loss. If you were 12% trying to get to 10% you might want to cycle lower carb periods. Lose what you can on 200 grams which is basically “low”, below isocaloric or zone carbs.
Maybe I’m not social media savvy enough, but I have no clue who this “world reknowned” guy even is -lol.
Googled his site and he’s claiming a 30 day money back guarantee. If you don’t feel good about it, or even if you just don’t like his answers for rationalizing his decisions (which seemed kinda iffy to me), tell him you want you money back and do a littel research yourself.
I’ve cut on low carbs, and I’ve cut on high carbs. There’s never just one answer that always applies.
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So i went a head and got a refund yesterday, not because of everything thats been said, but because i could get laid off my job any week now with the way the Oil and Gas economy is…there have been warnings as of yesterday morning.
So, I come to you T Nation. Help me shred. You say, i do. Easy as that.
I was seeing decent results with this protocol I was using;
Wake up; 2 scoops Of protein, 2tsp of Coconut Oil, 4 Omega 3 pills and 3000mg of Vit D
then, i would have 3 meals of 1 cup of Veggies (asparagus or brocolli or whatever) with 6oz of steak or chicken or fish. Id toss in 3000mg more of vitamin d, and 4 pills of Omega 3 again at some point.
1hr - 1.5hrs before my workout i would have 1 cup of oatmeal, mix with have a scoop of protein, and berries. Id toss back my EC stack and pre workout on my drive there
(CONSUME NOTHING DURING WORKOUT, ONLY WATER)
Post workout I would crush back 2 scoops of brotein, with half a banana, .5 cup of oats and 1tsp of PB. Blended that shit and down it goes.
Before Bed id have about 5 egg whites with 3 yolk, and some spinach.
ZMA before bed.
For training; I went ahead and bought John Romaniellos super hero workout, even after posting a thread about training/madcow I go to bed sometimes crying.
I do fasted cardio with a BCAA shake 2 times a week and 10 minutes of light incline walking after each workout.
Now, after reading everyones comments on carbs being around 200g. What am i doing wrong? I honestly thought that carbs should be kept around the workout window and thats all.
(let the ass widening begin)
[quote]MinusTheColon wrote:
OP, please don’t take this as a personal attack because I’m trying to be constructive, but you look like you’ve barely ever touched a weight. IMO, you are really not at the point where hiring a “world renowned” trainer makes sense financially or even as it pertains to training: if you had the time and discipline and such to stick with what this guy is going to be giving you, you would have a more developed physique already.
This is just to say that you would probably be best off maintaining a really simple diet (target total calories and protein grams) and a basic lifting program and follow that for a few months. That should be sufficient to get you results instead of sinking money into some trainer. I just hate to see you waste your money when you’d be better off just focusing on the simple stuff at this juncture.[/quote]
^x2 I was about 250 (age 53) when I started about two years ago. It is easy and hard at the same time. It is easy in that all you do is burn more calories than you eat. Try to eat as clean as possible (we all know what this is). The hard part: consistency, consistency is what matters. Go the gym (or workout wherever you can) more often than not. Focus on your form and do not worry about doing stupid shit. Do the basics and master them before you worry about weird shit in the gym. Using good form, up the weight when you can.
There will be days when it feels good and days when you feel like shit. I make it a habit of going to the gym during lunch, I just go, I don’t think abut it, or worry how I am feeling, I just go. I do the best, most honest hard workout I can do that day, and I am content with it. Once you do this for a few months, then assess your progress. Only after all this should you worry about macros or number of carbs, or bench pressing with a 35 degree angle or a 36 degree angle. Just go the gym as often as possible and eat as clean as possible. There is no best diet or best workout so stop looking. Best of luck!
[quote]ESPguitarist1990 wrote:
Personally, i thought whilst on a cutting diet, carbs would be low, but everything else is high. Does his prescribed amount of carbs really make sense?[/quote]
It’s all about being in an overall sustained caloric deficit, for an extended period of time, at least enough to shed unwanted fat while preserving LBM and having enough energy to perform your strength training and conditioning work.
As someone who was caught in the carb phobia trap for awhile, I can assure you that you can certainly lose fat eating 200g carbs/day if your overall caloric intake is structured to be in a deficit for fat loss. You’ll look and perform better in the gym by keeping carb intake high enough to fuel your workouts, while manipulating calories from fat to otherwise remain low enough to allow for a deficit. You won’t have ravenous hunger pangs if your protein intake remains high and you are supplementing your diet with lots of fibrous veggies (get creative with the cauliflower, broccoli, spinach, kale and sprout recipes).
So i guess it really does come down to playing around with carbs then, eh? High carbs one week, low one, etc etc.
I did keep the trainers diet plan for good measure…maybe i will try it for the prescribed 3 months and see what happens.
Fingers crossed i dont get laid off…
Look man just add buttermilk to every meal.
That comes out to 10.8 calories per pound, which is a perfectly reasonable starting point for weight loss (general rule is 10 to 12 kcals/lb for weight loss, to start).
I actually consider 200 carbs or below for a 250# pound man to be on the low to moderate side.
And 33% is hardly a low fat diet.
I think you need a better understanding on nutrition in general (saying this constructively here).
Get a refund and just follow the advice you were given in the previous thread like this you started
What the Badger said.
Although for my 0.02 worth.
Save your daily carbs for…an hour before your training, then during your training, with a post training shake first.
Then about 30-45 minutes late add a UHMW carb source like dextrose, waxy maize et all.
Use the carbs to Your advantage !
I would strongly suggest you pick one coach that you can 100% trust and follow their advice to the letter. The acid test is that if you have to double check with the internet after a few days of hearing their advice, you don’t trust them enough.
I’ve never heard of this dude before so I can’t attest to his abilities but there’s a whole host of people who I would trust to guide me through this process (Chris Colucci above, jason ferruggia, Wendler, Joe Defranco and even some of the regular posters on here, Ecchastang, ActivitiesGuy etc.). It’s a question of picking one who you feel comfortable with.