[quote]borrek wrote:
Tell your friend that there is no “perfect” time to have a child. When I found out I was having a daughter, I honestly had $0.01 in my bank account. She’s the best thing I’ve ever done. No one is ever “ready” for their first child.
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She’s a cutie too…
[quote]Makavali wrote:
John S. wrote:
Molotov_Coktease wrote:
John S. wrote:
RebornTN wrote:
I don’t see where a lot of you guy’s are coming from here. You would rather have a child born to a bunch of college students?
I am going to stop you right here. The answer is yes I do want to see this kid born to them. Maybe these irresponsible fucktards will learn a lesson and that lesson is if your not ready for a kid use fucking protection. There life is going to head in a new direction now and thats that, shit happens and you adapt you don’t go around killing the thing that fucks up your plans.
Yay! Awesome an example child. Good for you dickface.
An example child, you can view it that way but it is much more then that. This child will teach them responsibility which is what having a child will do. Ask any parent if having a child didn’t teach them responsibility, you will find that more often then not it did.
The way you word it de-humanizes the child.[/quote]
Chopping it up and sucking it out with a Hoover, is far, far more dehumanizing.
[quote]RebornTN wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Your friend is an asshole pressuring a woman to have an abortion.
I don’t see where a lot of you guy’s are coming from here. You would rather have a child born to a bunch of college students? I think he has every right to make sure that she knows his stance on the issue. In the end, the choice is hers, but he has quite a large stake in the outcome.[/quote]
I have a friend have child born to him in high school. That child is graduating high school next year. He’s never had any regrets.
A man has control over his seed til the precise moment he ejects them… from there on out… no control.
IMHO, your friend can have an opinion, but the child is in her body, it’s her decision.
[quote]emdawgz1 wrote:
A man has control over his seed til the precise moment he ejects them… from there on out… no control.
IMHO, your friend can have an opinion, but the child is in her body, it’s her decision.
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that is the way society has made it. and me, being a father, am completely offended by that statement. my boy is half me, half my wife, and will always be. thats my son and hers. not hers and i can come along for the ride.
a real man controls where he spreads his seed. and where he spreads it he takes responsibility for it. a little boy has no control over it after he ejects it.
my advice to women who find themselves in a position to where they cant take care of their responsibility.
QUIT DATING LITTLE BOYS.
[quote]bears wrote:
emdawgz1 wrote:
A man has control over his seed til the precise moment he ejects them… from there on out… no control.
IMHO, your friend can have an opinion, but the child is in her body, it’s her decision.
that is the way society has made it. and me, being a father, am completely offended by that statement. my boy is half me, half my wife, and will always be. thats my son and hers. not hers and i can come along for the ride.
a real man controls where he spreads his seed. and where he spreads it he takes responsibility for it. a little boy has no control over it after he ejects it.
my advice to women who find themselves in a position to where they cant take care of their responsibility.
QUIT DATING LITTLE BOYS.
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Good post
it is a good post
I’d like to add to this thread that my major problem with the guy having no control over abortions is the fact in a situation where the girl gets pregnant and the guy is extatic about it, the girl could just go and get it aborted by herself and there is fuck all the father can do to save his future child
THAT is the main problem with the woman having total control
[quote]Cron391 wrote:
Long story short my friend got his girlfriend pregnant. NOT a planned one so it was a real shock. He wants her to have a abortion seeing that they are still in college and have limited money and time. Problem is that she is having second thoughts. This situation WAS discussed between them and both agreed that she would have the abortion if she every got pregnant.
But now that it happened it lookes like she might keep it, my friend is going nuts. I mean neither of them are in a postion to raise a child and he keeps argiung to abort.
I mean it take two to create a child so how much say should the man have in this issue.
Keep in mind she agreed that if she got pregnant that she would abort. Oh ya they are ingaged and have been together since their freshman year so about 4 years now.
Thoughts? [/quote]
Yes. Those “second thoughts” she is having result from her sociopathic inseminator pushing her to hook herself up to a vacuum pump and to murder her unborn child via garbage disposal.
[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
John S. wrote:
RebornTN wrote:
I don’t see where a lot of you guy’s are coming from here. You would rather have a child born to a bunch of college students?
I am going to stop you right here. The answer is yes I do want to see this kid born to them. Maybe these irresponsible fucktards will learn a lesson and that lesson is if your not ready for a kid use fucking protection. There life is going to head in a new direction now and thats that, shit happens and you adapt you don’t go around killing the thing that fucks up your plans.
Yay! Awesome an example child. Good for you dickface. [/quote]
Ahhh, yes. The pro-abortion side, having pinpointed the stage of development, (in previous threads of this nature), at which the fetus becomes a Fully-Human Person, can make the recommendation to kill it at this juncture because it is not yet human.
Wow, I think this is the most times I’ve been quoted on T-Nation. Ever.
Now, if only I can make this a common occurrence…the possibilities for epic pictures are endless!
[quote]RebornTN wrote:
Wow, I think this is the most times I’ve been quoted on T-Nation. Ever.
Now, if only I can make this a common occurrence…the possibilities for epic pictures are endless![/quote]
We can’t quote pictures…And we’re only being nice because your like, hot.
[quote]pat wrote:
RebornTN wrote:
Wow, I think this is the most times I’ve been quoted on T-Nation. Ever.
Now, if only I can make this a common occurrence…the possibilities for epic pictures are endless!
We can’t quote pictures…And we’re only being nice because your like, hot.[/quote]
Pat! he’s a 15yr old boy or 16yrs old… no joke. That pic is just one he chose for an avatar.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
pat wrote:
RebornTN wrote:
Wow, I think this is the most times I’ve been quoted on T-Nation. Ever.
Now, if only I can make this a common occurrence…the possibilities for epic pictures are endless!
We can’t quote pictures…And we’re only being nice because your like, hot.
Pat! he’s a 15yr old boy or 16yrs old… no joke. That pic is just one he chose for an avatar.[/quote]
Well he’s got a nice avatar then… anyway, I’ll shut up…
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
pat wrote:
RebornTN wrote:
Wow, I think this is the most times I’ve been quoted on T-Nation. Ever.
Now, if only I can make this a common occurrence…the possibilities for epic pictures are endless!
We can’t quote pictures…And we’re only being nice because your like, hot.
Pat! he’s a 15yr old boy or 16yrs old… no joke. That pic is just one he chose for an avatar.[/quote]
so we finally found him out.
pat, you fucking pederast.
you probably could use a few pointers from the talking bicycle about how to pic up teenage males anyways. He’s way better at it then you.
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
pat wrote:
RebornTN wrote:
Wow, I think this is the most times I’ve been quoted on T-Nation. Ever.
Now, if only I can make this a common occurrence…the possibilities for epic pictures are endless!
We can’t quote pictures…And we’re only being nice because your like, hot.
Pat! he’s a 15yr old boy or 16yrs old… no joke. That pic is just one he chose for an avatar.
so we finally found him out.
pat, you fucking pederast.
you probably could use a few pointers from the talking bicycle about how to pic up teenage males anyways. He’s way better at it then you.[/quote]
Hey, he’s of legal age in Alabama.
[quote]Subliminal-Steve wrote:
it is a good post
I’d like to add to this thread that my major problem with the guy having no control over abortions is the fact in a situation where the girl gets pregnant and the guy is extatic about it, the girl could just go and get it aborted by herself and there is fuck all the father can do to save his future child
THAT is the main problem with the woman having total control[/quote]
My friends and I have been discussing this lately, and we keep hitting this wall. What’s a better solution?
It sucks that a man could want to keep his child and lose it because the woman wants to abort it. But taking away her right to her body is worse. Is there any third solution that’s better than that?
[quote]intent wrote:
Subliminal-Steve wrote:
it is a good post
I’d like to add to this thread that my major problem with the guy having no control over abortions is the fact in a situation where the girl gets pregnant and the guy is extatic about it, the girl could just go and get it aborted by herself and there is fuck all the father can do to save his future child
THAT is the main problem with the woman having total control
My friends and I have been discussing this lately, and we keep hitting this wall. What’s a better solution?
It sucks that a man could want to keep his child and lose it because the woman wants to abort it. But taking away her right to her body is worse. Is there any third solution that’s better than that?[/quote]
Science is showing earlier and earlier it is a life. A fertilized egg has the same DNa as a grown person. Heartbeats are present at what, 8-9 weeks? Studies of twins via ultrasound show interactions between twins at a much earlier age than was previously thought.
If it’s a life, there is no woman’s right. There’s the life of the baby. to me I would much err on the side of caution.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
If it’s a life, there is no woman’s right.
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I respect your position on this matter, but we do not agree.
I view this with the thoughts of the woman first, the fetus second.
The woman has no rights? Yet you cavil and screech about your man’s rights in the matter?
thank goodness for now choice is safe and legal
no forced pregnancies and no back alley abortions.
[quote]I view this with the thoughts of the woman first, the fetus second.
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Right, this is what we keep hearing. The woman gets to murder because the unborn human is in the womb. The philosophical reason why murder is acceptable are never given, it’s just “in the mother.”
[quote]no forced pregnancies and no back alley abortions.
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The only “forced” pregnancies are technically rapes. Other than that, contraception was not used properly. I fail to see how the baby deserves murder because of the mother’s poor planning.
I’m all for baby murder. Babies are stupid and produce nothing. What do we need any more babies for? We’re damned near the end of the world as we know it, so why not just conserve all our resources for ourselves?
Also, the babies will one day grow up and usurp us. I’m not religious, but there is at least one gem of wisdom in the Bible, and that’s the part where Herod goes out and kills all the babies. Granted he missed baby Jesus, but we won’t make the same mistake this time around.