[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
What I meant in the previous thread was that forcing a child to occupy a male gender role if he is in fact transgendered can be horrific.
What I mean in this thread is that there is no correlation between how a gender role is identified and happiness.
The claim was that women in a “traditional” gender role in which they are relegated to the private sphere leads to increased happiness. I argued otherwise based on the fact that countries with much less distinction between gender roles than what we have here have FAR higher levels of happiness, according to the HPI.
There is a difference between deciding for women what their gender role entails and deciding for your child what gender he/she is without regard to what gender they actually are.[/quote]
And what is the difference? I’m not getting where the transition occurs.
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Femininess is directly connected with motherhood, masculiness is directly connected with fatherhood. These are the gender roles, can a woman work in an office? Yes, but if she lacks motherhood whether that be biological or “spiritual” she is less attractive beyond her sexual values (how she looks) why? Because she is not whole. Can she be a manager and still retain her motherhood? Sure, but it won’t match what we deem as leadership within business likely not allowing her the opportunity to become a manager. Same for men. The difference is that fatherhood is easily portrayed within being a leader as men are supposed to be the head of the woman. [/quote]
I was just going to say that if you want a good distillation of what masculine and feminine is represented by, look no further than the idea of the father and the mother.
The father is the protector, fighter, LEADER, arbiter, decision maker, disciplinarian. He represents logic, integrity, independence, virility and confidence. The father teaches his child how to be strong and take care of himself.
The mother is the nurturer, caregiver, comforter, and listener. She represents compassion, patience, affection, gentleness, emotion, sensuality and reception.
There is nothing either good or bad about either one of these, and before someone moronically says, “Well I know women who are independent,” that’s not what this is about. This is about dominant characteristics of either sex. As a general rule, men possess more of the former, women more of the latter. It amazes me that I actually felt I needed to type that last sentence.