Witty Title No.69

[quote]TX iron wrote:
Hola,

I was wondering the same thing as LoRez, as I’m looking to program heavy partials in a later cycle but find that I tend to overdo things if they’re not planned properly. Are you using or did you start with certain percentages of your training max?[/quote]

I used my 3RM for deads and ~100lbs over my TM for squats but, as you can see from my numbers, I’m far from an expert on this. Th3Pwnisher has far more experience at this, ever since he stole the idea from George Leeman.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
Just saw your post in my log. Didn’t want to overstep in my initial comment regarding ab work, but with your solicitation I’ll give you my perspective.[/quote]
Dude, always looking for feedback on what I’m doing

[quote]
RE bench: I feel like you’re doing too much actual pressing in this correct workout and not enough assistance work. You’re doing 6 (what I assume to be) full ROM pressing movements in 1 week between 2 days, with minimal angle change (it’s either completely horizontal or completely vertical). For me, I’d fry out on that pretty quick (and I have done so in the past when I tried).[/quote]
I had considered making the bench and BTN presses on OHP day into incline pressing. I think I talked myself out of it because my bench is fixed and so incline bench would be a pain to set up. I think I should suck it up and do what I need to do.

I should have read this whole thing before I replied. Ah well. I practically never do direct arm work because I hate it, which should probably be a sign that I do more of it

[quote]
Also, on one of your upperbody days, I’d de-emphasize pull ups and put in some sort of row.
And, of course, my recommendation to chase everything with a set of band pull aparts. If that’s no viable, I like to do them at the end of the day before bed (100-200 reps).[/quote]
I do band pull-aparts anyway, I just forgot to put them in the program.

I have access to neither on leg day, although I have been able to do back extensions with limited ROM on my bench

[quote]
On a personal note as well, I do much better doing my AMRAP sets at the very end of my workout, so that might be something to consider with the squat day for the FSL. Really allows you to give it your all.

I’ll give it a little more of a look over to see if there is anything I’d change otherwise.[/quote]
That’s much appreciated

Take 2:
Squat day:
Squats 5/3/1 FSL
Ab wheel work
Anderson Squats, 25 reps
Farmers walks, if time.

Bench day:
5/3/1 bench
8 x 3 bench
single dB clean and Press, 25 reps each arm
single dB rows

Deadlift day:
5/3/1, no plus set
back extension/hanging leg raise superset
ROM progression
Hack carries, if time

OHP day:
5/3/1 OHP FSL
Incline bench, 25 reps
Bodybuilding shoulder work
arms work

Throughout the week, Monday - Friday: 1-2-3-4-5 pull-ups ladders. 1 ladder monday, 5 on friday.

Ah, I can see how the equipment limitations may present an issue. You can create a slightly inclined bench by elevating the front end with some risers. It wouldn’t be a dramatic incline, but maybe enough of a difference to create the desired response and get some variety.

Alternatively, do you have a power rack? You can make a defacto dip rack by putting 2 barbells on the safety pins and doing dips between them. If you don’t have 2 barbells, you could get some plumbing pipe for cheap to fit the bill. It’s not the best for super heavy weighed dips due to the barbells being able to roll, but works well for bodyweight. You could also help keep the barbells in place by taking one of those foam pool noodles, putting it on the safety pins, and then cutting out ridges in it for the barbell to rest on.

As you can tell, I’ve done a lot of home gym MacGyvering, haha.

But yeah, my experience has taught me that the bench LOVES assistance work and variety. I set my best bench ever in competition when I was following DoggCrapp, and a lot of top bodybuilders might be lacking in the squat and dead compared to top powerlifters, but they can still hold their own in the bench. I’m discovering the same thing with the press.

In regards to lowerback training, this isn’t actually the same at all, but still not a bad idea: some sort of swing. Kettlebell, dumbbell, Hungarian core blaster, just something to train the hip hinge. You can actually use these like band pull aparts, and just do a set of sub-maximal reps in between sets of everything on your lower body days to accumulate some volume and training without getting too burnt out. If you do these correctly, they actually WON’T train your lower back, but they’ll do the next best thing in that they’ll teach you how to use your hips in place of your lower back for locking out squats and deads.

You could always do floor supermans, but those look goofy, haha. Alternatively though, in place of a loaded carry, you could do some sandbag shouldering as a conditioning exercise, which does a decent job hammering the lower back as well.

This is pretty much just spitballing at this point, so don’t take any of it as gospel.

EDIT: Wrote this before I saw your most recent post, so don’t consider it a reaction to that post, haha.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
Ah, I can see how the equipment limitations may present an issue. You can create a slightly inclined bench by elevating the front end with some risers. It wouldn’t be a dramatic incline, but maybe enough of a difference to create the desired response and get some variety.

Alternatively, do you have a power rack? You can make a defacto dip rack by putting 2 barbells on the safety pins and doing dips between them. If you don’t have 2 barbells, you could get some plumbing pipe for cheap to fit the bill. It’s not the best for super heavy weighed dips due to the barbells being able to roll, but works well for bodyweight. You could also help keep the barbells in place by taking one of those foam pool noodles, putting it on the safety pins, and then cutting out ridges in it for the barbell to rest on.

As you can tell, I’ve done a lot of home gym MacGyvering, haha.

But yeah, my experience has taught me that the bench LOVES assistance work and variety. I set my best bench ever in competition when I was following DoggCrapp, and a lot of top bodybuilders might be lacking in the squat and dead compared to top powerlifters, but they can still hold their own in the bench. I’m discovering the same thing with the press.

In regards to lowerback training, this isn’t actually the same at all, but still not a bad idea: some sort of swing. Kettlebell, dumbbell, Hungarian core blaster, just something to train the hip hinge. You can actually use these like band pull aparts, and just do a set of sub-maximal reps in between sets of everything on your lower body days to accumulate some volume and training without getting too burnt out. If you do these correctly, they actually WON’T train your lower back, but they’ll do the next best thing in that they’ll teach you how to use your hips in place of your lower back for locking out squats and deads.

You could always do floor supermans, but those look goofy, haha. Alternatively though, in place of a loaded carry, you could do some sandbag shouldering as a conditioning exercise, which does a decent job hammering the lower back as well.

This is pretty much just spitballing at this point, so don’t take any of it as gospel.

EDIT: Wrote this before I saw your most recent post, so don’t consider it a reaction to that post, haha.[/quote]

I don’t have a power rack, which is potentially one reason for my low squat compared to my deadlift. I push harder with my deadlift because if I fail, I drop it and no-one cares. If I fail squatting out of a stand, I’m not too clear what happens but I would imagine it’s a painful experience.

I have enough “stuff” to put under my bench to make something of an incline, it’s just a pain in the arse. Guess I need to learn to suck it up and do it though. I have rings that can be lowered far enough to do dips on, which was something else I was considering as a bench assistance.

As for the swings, I have done a lot of these in the past for conditioning work as I’ve always found them a great “low impact” exercise that is great for conditioning but has minimal impact on my recovery from lifting. I’ve done them less recently because I don’t have a kettlebells heavy enough to be fun. I think I will invest in a heavier one shortly, since I’ve been wanting one for ages. I especially like the idea of using them as “lower body pull-aparts”, I will definitely be using that one.

In regards to a heavy swinging implement, check out this article

Specifically the part about the “Hungarian core blaster”. Decent way to get a loadable swinging apparatus.

Ring dips are a great alternative. You could also get some angled work in with them by doing an angled ring push-up with them. Possibly try to load your torso with chains/heavy backpack or something.

As is the case most times, effort will trump programming anyway. As long as you bust your ass, you’re going places.

I think I’ll draw a line under what I’ve got above and just hit it hard for the first 3 weeks and adjust for the second if I need to. I’m in danger of overthinking this way too much, besides which I’m not at a level where I’m in need of complicated, intricate programs.

Thanks very much for your input man, and I will obviously let you know how it goes.

Todays workout:

Barbell complexes:
5 x powerclean, row, front squat, push press and back squat

One round each at:
40kg, 50kg, 60kg, 60kg, 50kg, 40kg, 40kg, 40kg, 40kg, 40kg

Rest periods are roughly what I needed to go inside and fetch the plates. About 30secs on the 40kg sets.

Todays workout was just about keeping moving and trying to make sure I’m prepared for real training.

Front squats:
Worked up to a few triples at 80kg, think this will be my working weight for the next cycle.

Hack carries:
Worked up to 100kg. These suck big time. And not in a “this is really hard, but effective” way, these just suck. They are also likely to leave big holes in my lawn if I use any reasonable weight as I can’t see myself either turning round or putting the weight down carefully with anything over about 80kg. Suffice to say, I don’t think these will make much of an appearance.

Renegade lunges:
Seemed like a good day to try these while my squat stand was at roughly the right height. Just had a play with the movement for this. They seem pretty awesome, even though they are clearly just a way to get lunges to seem more manly by putting them near a squat rack/stand.

On a side note: wireless headphones are my new best friend. No more getting ear buds yanked out or keeping your head tilted forward because the wires got caught somewhere.

Squat day, 5’s week:

40kg x 5
50kg x 5
60kg x 5
72.5kg x 5
82.5kg x 5
95kg x 10 pausing to catch a breath between every rep on these. Not sure if that’s my conditioning being poor or just me being a massive pussy.

Anderson squats:
5 x 130kg
10 x 135kg
10 x 135kg

Ab work:
Some ab wheel work. I did some. It sucked, as expected. Don’t know why I hate ab work so much, I just do. Tried to keep constant tension while doing these by limiting the ROM.

Not sure if this really justifies it’s own post but fuck it, I might throw a knock knock joke in at the end to make it worth reading.

pull-up ladder: 5-4-3-2-1, plan is to build up the intensity of these throughout the week. Did these as L-sit pull-ups to hit my abs more.

Renegade lunges with 10kg plate:
20 reps, 30 reps, 40reps, 50reps.

Bench day, 5’s week:

5 x 40kg
5 x 50kg
5 x 60kg
5 x 70kg
10 x 77.5kg (plus set)
2 x 3 x 80kg
6 x 3 x 82.5kg

band pull aparts and 2 x 1-2-3-4-5 pull up ladders

Deadlift day, 5’s week:

Kb swings: about 100 swings total as a warm up at 24kg. These are just way too easy, even as a warm up now. Waiting for my 40kg to turn up early next month, should make swings a whole different animal.

Deadlift:
70kg x 5
90kg x 5
110kg x 3 (had to stop the set here because one of the cats decided he wanted to play with the plates mid air and I didn’t fancy cleaning cat guts off my weights)
120kg x 5
137.5kg x 5

Rewatched th3Pwnishers deadlift video and tried to focus on the bits I missed the first time, like leaning back and snapping the hips forward. Felt much better, although I’m still not convinced on the initial roll of the bar, will have to work on that.

“mat” pulls, ~5 inches off the floor:
2 x 160kg
1 x 160kg
2 x 160kg

Have discovered that while I’m able to do high reps of touch and go deadlits, my strength tails off really quickly on heavier sets. So, while I can do 10 reps at 147.5kg, making my estimated 1RM over 200kg, I have trouble breaking 160kg off the floor on an average day. This is a complete reversal from where I was around Christmas time, but is still not a welcome discovery, given I was kinda banking on a high deadlift to hit my goals.

ab work:
5 rounds of superset 10 hanging leg raises with 20 back extensions (10kg held to my chest). My abs are definitely the weak link in my lifts, no doubt about it.

Front Squat:
8 x 3 at 80kg.
These where absolute hell at the end of the workout. Not sure why I expected otherwise.

I think the added ab work is going to help with the issue you have breaking heavy weight off the floor, especially with you having identified it as a weak point. It’s not sexy, but in my experience, “leg drive”/“strong off the floor” just means having a good set-up, and that in turn means ability to brace.

When I set-up for the initial pull of a deadlift, I don’t think about my legs at all. None of that “push your heels through the floor” stuff or anything. My biggest/ONLY focus is just to get my core as tight as humanly possible. The tighter I can get it, the better I break off the floor.

New plan looks pretty effective, hope it pans out well for you.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I think the added ab work is going to help with the issue you have breaking heavy weight off the floor, especially with you having identified it as a weak point. It’s not sexy, but in my experience, “leg drive”/“strong off the floor” just means having a good set-up, and that in turn means ability to brace.

When I set-up for the initial pull of a deadlift, I don’t think about my legs at all. None of that “push your heels through the floor” stuff or anything. My biggest/ONLY focus is just to get my core as tight as humanly possible. The tighter I can get it, the better I break off the floor.

New plan looks pretty effective, hope it pans out well for you.[/quote]
Thanks man, the abs are just so obvious as a weak point, I’m not sure why I didn’t address it earlier, other than I hate it. My abs are still recovering from Sundays, fairly minimal, workout, that’s how weak they are.

I’m trying to follow my own advice and stick to the big basics, or as Dan John would say “a few difficult things”.

And to completely contradict my last post, my first full “bodybuilder” session for a long, long time.

OHP:
5 x 40kg
5 x 45kg
5 x 50kg
6 x 55kg Was really disappointed about this, it’s well under my rep max until I noticed the bar is actually about 23kg (it’s a crap gym), so this makes it a more acceptable lift.
10 x 50kg

weighted pull-ups:
5 x 5 at about 8kg

dB incline bench:
5 x 5 at 30kg this is the most the gym has. Need to do more dB work, my stabilisers are really weak.

Incline press in Smith machine:
couple of sets at 70kg. somewhere between 15-20, wasn’t keeping track. Just trying to keep tension in the muscles, since my stabilisers where too weak to do this with dB’s.

Rear delt hang and swing set:
3 x 35 x 10kg

curls:
some x some x some

shoulder 6 ways:
some x some x some

Squat day: 3’s week.

I had 15 mins to squat today, and even then it was only because I did it in boxers.

5 x 70kg
3 x 80kg
3 x 90kg
6 x 100kg had no time to look up what my rep max for this would be and set a “best guess” goal, probably short changed myself. Should have been an 8 at least.

135kg Anderson squat: 20reps. This as a push, the missus came out to make sure I was ok because she’s never heard me make noise training before.

1 x pull up ladder inbetween

Bench day, 3’s week:

Another short workout because of time constraints

Bench:
5 x 40kg
5 x 50kg
5 x 60kg
3 x 65kg
3 x 72.5kg
8 x 82.5kg felt pretty solid, hit my top end target going in quite easily
7 x 3 x 82.5kg

In between:
band pull aparts
hanging leg raises
ab wheel roll outs
pull-up ladders.

Bit of a mix and match workout, moving from one to another pretty quickly.

Missed logging yesterdays session. Quick 30mins job so had to really power through on these and round any weights to the easiest plate.

Deadlift:
5 x 70kg
3 x 90kg
3 x 110kg
3 x 120kg
3 x 130kg
3 x 145kg

Mat pulls (roughly 4" above my normal deadlift position):
3 x 2 @ 160kg

Front squats:
6 x 4 @ 80kg

Quite impressed with the fact I got all this done in less than 30mins, including time to get changed, prepare and eat pre and post workout food.

Second (ever) bodybuilder day:

OHP:
Warm up sets of 5’s with dB’s (some bastard was using the squat rack for squats, bastard)

5 x 40kg (ish)
5 x 50kg (ish)
5 x 55kg (ish)
10 x 45kg (ish)

Not really sure how heavy this bar is, feels a bit heavier and thicker than a standard bar and is also bent as anything so kinda have to estimate my weights here.

dB incline press:
5 x 5 @ 30kg/hand. These are purely to build some strength back in my stabiliser muscles that has obviously been lost by neglecting dB work

smith machine incline press:
3 x 20 @ ~70kg purely to get a bit of a pump in a safer way than the dB’s

One armed lat pull-down:
All the places to do pull-ups were full (none of them to do pull-ups) so rediscovered my old favourite. 5 x 10 each side, no idea what weight.

Cable curls:
3 x 10

Rear delt hang and swing sets:
3 x 35 @10kg/hand

side delt hang and swing sets:
3 x 35 @8kg/hand

Squat day, 5/3/1 week:

Squats:
some x 60kg
some x 70kg
some x 80kg
some x 90kg
1 x 100kg
6 x 105kg, fairly easy, controlled reps. Seem to be well on the way to solving the tightness issue.
10 x 85kg

Anderson Squats:
1 x 135kg
5 x 120kg
5 x 120kg

Was really disappointed by this until I noticed the starting position is probably barely above parallel. Still a massive drop from last week for the sake of one extra inch in ROM, but could just be a bad day. Either way my squat is going up so I’m happy.

Ab work:
superset of hanging leg raises and back extensions.

Front squat:
20 x 60kg.