can i run winstrol and masteron without test?
Run two non-aromatizing steroids for many weeks together. Not a good plan. Where’s your source of estrogen when your test production shuts down?
you would be ok with HCG thrown in there to keep some test/estrogen.
Run it like this:
Mast 200-400mg/w
Winny 25-50mg/d (no more than 6 weeks and try to avoid stressing your liver during that time cause winny is kinda harsh…if your mast is enth then start the winny in week 3 when the mast is starting to kick in)
HCG 200-250iu 3x/w (run from the 3rd or 4th week in until a week or two before your gear clears your system)
[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
you would be ok with HCG thrown in there to keep some test/estrogen.
Run it like this:
Mast 200-400mg/w
Winny 25-50mg/d (no more than 6 weeks and try to avoid stressing your liver during that time cause winny is kinda harsh…if your mast is enth then start the winny in week 3 when the mast is starting to kick in)
HCG 200-250iu 3x/w (run from the 3rd or 4th week in until a week or two before your gear clears your system)[/quote]
True, didn’t think about that.
if your stack is geared toward cutting bodyfat, then I would use a mild aromatizing compound. Winny is a bit hash on the cholesterol and joint, I don’t like it. And it is more effective if you stack a DHT derivative with a testosterone derivative. I would choose boldenone. It aromatizes at roughly half the rate of test.
It can provide sufficient estrogen to your body. THe mast will act as a mild anti-e, so you can run a decent dose of bold without have to worry about AIs. You should do frequent blood tests to find your sweet spot. Remember high DHT + high estrogen = prostate enlargement.
mast 200-400mg
bold 400-800mg
HCG as required
Would’nt all that boldenone give him a limp dick without test? Or does the masteron fix that. Also ive never heard of masteron coming in an enathate. Not saying that it does’nt. I would love to try it tho if I could get it in an enanthate.
Normal (optimal) estrogen levels + proper amount of DHT (from the masteron) = Functioning libido. That is assuming there aren’t any other variables at play, like prolactin.
Original Masteron comes in as propionate. You can get UGL mast prop @100mg/ml, mast e @ 200mg/ml. if you are government owned/sponsored, then everything is available at your coaches/doctors discretion (but not yours).
I think you should at least have a little test in there, but I know guys including myself that ran just deca and liked the results… In fact I liked the results better than a just test only cycle.