Whats the best dosage of Mast E? I am 41 and 209lbs at 18% bf. I plan to run Mast E instead of Tren E for my cut cycle and would like to see any thoughts to dosage strength. I plan to stay safe and run Cyp at 250mg E4D to stay with in my numbers. The Mast E available to me is at 200mg. I love Tren E but it is just to harsh on my makeup really want to try this route.
Honestly i think youll be disappointed in masterons effects at your bodyfat percentage.
I’m trying to talk myself into it but the more I read your right. I should be at sub 10% before working that cycle.
[quote]mnolen wrote:
I’m trying to talk myself into it but the more I read your right. I should be at sub 10% before working that cycle.
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I’m nowhere close to sub 10% and I will never run a cycle again without Mast E.
I think it’s great, you will see hardening effects at 18%, but like basically any steroid you get more benefits the leaner you are whilst running it.
For me the synergistic effects of Test E/ Mast E have just been great. Easy on my lipids, barely anymore extra acne, doesn’t aromatize, gives me the hardening effect and is leaning me out. Strength boost isn’t much though.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]mnolen wrote:
I’m trying to talk myself into it but the more I read your right. I should be at sub 10% before working that cycle.
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I’m nowhere close to sub 10% and I will never run a cycle again without Mast E.
I think it’s great, you will see hardening effects at 18%, but like basically any steroid you get more benefits the leaner you are whilst running it.
For me the synergistic effects of Test E/ Mast E have just been great. Easy on my lipids, barely anymore extra acne, doesn’t aromatize, gives me the hardening effect and is leaning me out. Strength boost isn’t much though.
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How can you possibly look hard at 18 percent.
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]mnolen wrote:
I’m trying to talk myself into it but the more I read your right. I should be at sub 10% before working that cycle.
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I’m nowhere close to sub 10% and I will never run a cycle again without Mast E.
I think it’s great, you will see hardening effects at 18%, but like basically any steroid you get more benefits the leaner you are whilst running it.
For me the synergistic effects of Test E/ Mast E have just been great. Easy on my lipids, barely anymore extra acne, doesn’t aromatize, gives me the hardening effect and is leaning me out. Strength boost isn’t much though.
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How can you possibly look hard at 18 percent.
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Yeah that’s what I don’t understand. You can “feel” like you’re harder/tighter but you won’t look hard.
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]mnolen wrote:
I’m trying to talk myself into it but the more I read your right. I should be at sub 10% before working that cycle.
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I’m nowhere close to sub 10% and I will never run a cycle again without Mast E.
I think it’s great, you will see hardening effects at 18%, but like basically any steroid you get more benefits the leaner you are whilst running it.
For me the synergistic effects of Test E/ Mast E have just been great. Easy on my lipids, barely anymore extra acne, doesn’t aromatize, gives me the hardening effect and is leaning me out. Strength boost isn’t much though.
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How can you possibly look hard at 18 percent.
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You won’t suddenly look “ripped” by taking mast at that BF % but you’ll definitely notice your muscles looking fuller. You’ll see a noticeable difference in the mirror on vs off. Obviously the leaner the better the effect
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]mnolen wrote:
I’m trying to talk myself into it but the more I read your right. I should be at sub 10% before working that cycle.
[/quote]
I’m nowhere close to sub 10% and I will never run a cycle again without Mast E.
I think it’s great, you will see hardening effects at 18%, but like basically any steroid you get more benefits the leaner you are whilst running it.
For me the synergistic effects of Test E/ Mast E have just been great. Easy on my lipids, barely anymore extra acne, doesn’t aromatize, gives me the hardening effect and is leaning me out. Strength boost isn’t much though.
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How can you possibly look hard at 18 percent.
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Yeah that’s what I don’t understand. You can “feel” like you’re harder/tighter but you won’t look hard.[/quote]
A guy with 18% BF will look noticeably better running mast E vs not. It will not suddenly mutate him into contest shape.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]mnolen wrote:
I’m trying to talk myself into it but the more I read your right. I should be at sub 10% before working that cycle.
[/quote]
I’m nowhere close to sub 10% and I will never run a cycle again without Mast E.
I think it’s great, you will see hardening effects at 18%, but like basically any steroid you get more benefits the leaner you are whilst running it.
For me the synergistic effects of Test E/ Mast E have just been great. Easy on my lipids, barely anymore extra acne, doesn’t aromatize, gives me the hardening effect and is leaning me out. Strength boost isn’t much though.
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How can you possibly look hard at 18 percent.
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Yeah that’s what I don’t understand. You can “feel” like you’re harder/tighter but you won’t look hard.[/quote]
A guy with 18% BF will look noticeably better running mast E vs not. It will not suddenly mutate him into contest shape.
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I think just upping the test would be a way better route but thats just me, aint gonna hurt to try either way, op.
Do you use an AI when not using mast, Raj?
If you want to be in somewhat the same ballpark as you were with the trenbolone enanthate, then I’d try about 1.5 times as many milligrams of Masteron enanthate. Not that that is an exact figure, or that there is any direct equivalence, but just as a rough guide.
Alternately, just in general (not knowing the rest of a cycle) 400-700 mg/week is a good range for Masteron enanthate as part of a stack.
Running testosterone cypionate at 250 mg every 4 days averages out to 438 mg/week.
With that, the 400 mg/week value for Masteron would be a nice mid-dosage-range cycle; the 700 mg/week value would be more serious but still entirely reasonable generally speaking.
If doing every 4 day injections, that could conveniently be 200 mg every 4 days (works out to 350 mg/week which is still quite decent) or 400 mg every 4 days, which would give you that higher value.
As therajraj posted, testosterone plus Masteron is an excellent combination.
[quote]dt79 wrote:
Do you use an AI when not using mast, Raj?[/quote]
No I do but I’m also running 1g test.
I’d like to see blood tests to backup the alleged anti-E properties of masteron. Maybe one day I’ll run 500mg test E for 6 weeks take bloods Then run 500mg test E 400mg mast E for weeks 7-12 and see how E has changed
[quote]dt79 wrote:
Do you use an AI when not using mast, Raj?[/quote]
Read your question wrong. I thought you asked “do you run an AI while running mast?”
Yes I do but I’m usually running multiple compounds.
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Actually, I asked that question because I was going to ask about the actual anti-e properties of mast and I remember you being relunctant to use an AI in the past, so you basically answered both questions haha.
Would be interested in seeing the results if you’re willing to post them.
Thanks for all of the responses. My biggest concern was with the gyno I experienced from the first time I ran Tren E. After reading more I decided run the Tren E to maximize some strength gains and work on lean muscle size. I have a reliable dietitian putting together a meal plan. I am going to run the Mast E through the summer to maximize my results from this cycle.
@Bill Roberts - I like the cycle plan and will most definitely take that into consideration.
The only times I run mast is honestly for the anti-E properties it carries, other than that, it hardens my muscles up like a mother, makes my dick work over time, and gets me pretty vascular. As far as growth and improvement just from Mast, I would say your money is better spent on Tren.
If youre going to be running long esters, I would recommend, test/deca, or test/tren e. Mast is fun and one of my favorites to add to a stack, but I never count on it much by itself for any kind of amazing results.