Will People STOP with the HIIT for Fat Loss!

yeah, the ‘tears’ thing is just normal taking the piss sort of thing.

In many ways it’s a sign of bonding and friendship and loving, caring kindness and not to be taken in a bad way.

Like that time T-Nation found out about the stroller my gf has for our dogs. When guys tore into me here it was all in good fun.

I love how a perfectly legit post can get construed by personal viewpoints. So awesome!

I would have to say HIIT for fat loss is a personal favorite of mine, although I do slow state too. I don’t know how you can just say one is better than the other. They are simply tools to use, just like the prowler, barbells, and dumbbells.

HIIT works faster in a sense for fat loss if you’ve got the right diet wrapped into your program, but it’s also harder to maintain, especially if you’re lifting equally intensely. I can’t do HIIT too frequently during the week without feeling completely drained by the end of the week if I’m hitting the gym furiously and trying to decrease carbs. I don’t know too many that can, unless they have some alternative ergogenic aids on board.

Steady state cardio is easy to do, even while dieting. Hell, I go through sci fi novels on cardio machines when I do steady state work, it’s just something to keep you moving (yet very boring and time consuming).

Yeah, my gym has a stairmill. On Sept 11th I did 84 floors in 19 minutes. It’s a great machine.

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]jsbrook wrote:
SS cardio is not the best for cardiovascular health. [/quote]

How so? And what is?[/quote]

Does anybody have an answer for this? Or something I could read on it, I don’t know much about this.

I do cardio after all of my weight training days [in the morning] and sometimes an extra cardio session on Sunday morning. Not so much for fat loss, more because it helps me eat more in the day [I’m hungrier] and…I thought it was the best way improve cardiovascular health.

Not going to stop the HIIT because it freaking works. 'Course it’s not the only thing that works, but it’s one of the fastest things.

The girl in the OP is not that lean. No WAY she’s 6%, not even close. Not criticizing, maybe that look was the goal because judges are all over the map about leanness for females…Nonetheless, I’m not a coach and I’ve gotten female friends leaner than that (more definition and separation, especially upper body).

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I know pushing 6% is a whole different ball game, but in my experience when I dropped from 20% to 9% BF this summer I did zero HIIT and zero steady state. it was all dumbbells, barbells, blood, sweat, and tears…oh and diet. [/quote]

Tears?

Thats gay.[/quote]

really??? What is this…elementary school? Have you ever heard of a figure of speech? Oh, and by your standards I guess Dave Tate’s gay, too?

“I cannot tell you how I trained or the weight I used, but I can tell you I worked so hard that I had tears streaming down my face. This was not crying, but they were tears of rage, fear and finally â?? tears of happiness.”

Ownage.

[quote]FutureGL wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I know pushing 6% is a whole different ball game, but in my experience when I dropped from 20% to 9% BF this summer I did zero HIIT and zero steady state. it was all dumbbells, barbells, blood, sweat, and tears…oh and diet. [/quote]

Tears?

Thats gay.[/quote]

really??? What is this…elementary school? Have you ever heard of a figure of speech? Oh, and by your standards I guess Dave Tate’s gay, too?

“I cannot tell you how I trained or the weight I used, but I can tell you I worked so hard that I had tears streaming down my face. This was not crying, but they were tears of rage, fear and finally Ã?¢?? tears of happiness.”

Guys who need to relax: you.

Anyone who disagrees with this is gay.
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Future Gay Lord. That’s right.

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]jsbrook wrote:
SS cardio is not the best for cardiovascular health. [/quote]

How so? And what is?[/quote]

Does anybody have an answer for this? Or something I could read on it, I don’t know much about this.

I do cardio after all of my weight training days [in the morning] and sometimes an extra cardio session on Sunday morning. Not so much for fat loss, more because it helps me eat more in the day [I’m hungrier] and…I thought it was the best way improve cardiovascular health. [/quote]

I guess nobody knows…? Seems quite unlike the internet if you ask me.

Okay,… according to what I’ve read, the body will become accustomed to any repeated stress, hence the lack of any real benefit over a period of time from any form of steady state work, ie. Traditional Aerobics. With repeated bouts, the stress on the body’s Oxidative and Energy requirements will become less and less as the body becomes more efficient. This is why distance runners not only fail to achieve low levels of bodyfat, but you will hear about them dropping dead from heart attacks just as frequently as people who don’t engage in similar pursuits (not discussing diet or genetic factors here though). Intense weight training sessions as well as Interval work, because of the sudden high demands places on the entire organism, can have heart benefits just as well as stimulating muscle growth and fat loss.

S

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Okay,… according to what I’ve read, the body will become accustomed to any repeated stress, hence the lack of any real benefit over a period of time from any form of steady state work, ie. Traditional Aerobics. With repeated bouts, the stress on the body’s Oxidative and Energy requirements will become less and less as the body becomes more efficient. This is why distance runners not only fail to achieve low levels of bodyfat, but you will hear about them dropping dead from heart attacks just as frequently as people who don’t engage in similar pursuits (not discussing diet or genetic factors here though). Intense weight training sessions as well as Interval work, because of the sudden high demands places on the entire organism, can have heart benefits just as well as stimulating muscle growth and fat loss.

S[/quote]

Thank you!

Thanks Stu.

I couldn’t just sit back and watch people bicker back and forth anymore -lol.

S

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Okay,… according to what I’ve read, the body will become accustomed to any repeated stress, hence the lack of any real benefit over a period of time from any form of steady state work, ie. Traditional Aerobics. With repeated bouts, the stress on the body’s Oxidative and Energy requirements will become less and less as the body becomes more efficient. This is why distance runners not only fail to achieve low levels of bodyfat, but you will hear about them dropping dead from heart attacks just as frequently as people who don’t engage in similar pursuits (not discussing diet or genetic factors here though). Intense weight training sessions as well as Interval work, because of the sudden high demands places on the entire organism, can have heart benefits just as well as stimulating muscle growth and fat loss.

S[/quote]

I enjoy how the body forces you to change your lifting routine. I go from lifting heavy weights to using time under tension with light weights to achieve different goals. Its like everything else in this world. You will get sick of something if you do it continually so change it up. Experiment!! Its pretty fun…

Hmmm, well…there are many, MANY health benefits of exercise. I’ve been reading them over the years and passing them on to inactive people in my life. I had many studies marked with Google Bookmarks but cannot get it to load right now, so I will not be posting links.

The biggest benefit that caught my attention is cognitive performance with aging. There is an enormous benefit to brain health and function from exercise, and the literature showing this uses some form of “regular” (multiple times per week), “moderate aerobic” exercise (not sprinting, not running marathons either). RMA exercise triggers gene expression for neurogenesis. It causes a post-exercise anti-inflammatory effect. RMA exercisers have a much smaller rate of heart failure over a given time period. Etc.

Even young kids show a benefit. When they engage in physical activity before an exam, they score better on the exam, for example.

Well I’ve managed to get down to point 5 on the callipers (whatever that is in real bodyfat %) simply by doing two sessions a week of HIIT (hill sprints) and they only last 5 mins each session!

Just a little modification/reduction in my diet, and a little increase in the HIIT and getting shredded wouldn’t be far off if I wanted to (a matter of weeks).

So, don’t think I’ll be dropping the HIIT…

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