[quote]harris447 wrote:
Gregus wrote:
This is an unwinable war. The violence will never end there and not because there’s fanatics living there, but rather because Israel is an illegal nation. I hope this is not uncomfortable for some but it’s the truth. Sure it may be “legal” in our convenient system, but morally speaking it’s not. It was put there and in effect drawn in on the map by the west after WW2. Oooo, never mind the people that live there already with their own culture etc… They’ll get used to it, it will better them anyway. So there you have it.
This is my simplistic and kindergarden level take on this issue. But there is a fundamental truism to what i said.
Sure you can rebuke what i said with fancy language, links and arguments. Simple fact remains though, Israel should not be there in the first place. Until we deal with this, we’ll just be dealing with the side effects of it being there. And since israel will not go anywhere now, this is a conflict without end. Accept it, move on and wash your hands of the whole deal. If you don’t you’re bound to bring their troubles over here. Opps, wait, that happened already too.
According to your logic, all the damn whities shouldn’t be in America.
Biggest bastard gets to eat first.
Way of the world.
Arabs wanted to keep Palestine for themselves? They should have fucking fought harder.
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Well, if that’s your position, than you should be pleased to notice that they are still fighting. And fighting pretty hard.
So since most Israeli citizens are in the IDF, or have family in the IDF (harboring) they’re not civilians either.
First, you are a disgusting person.
Now, with that obvious truth stated, let’s get down to it.
The difference (of course) is that hezbollah’s stated aim is killing the Jews in Israel. Men, women, and children. Indiscriminate killing. Even a person as reprehensible as you cannot seriously maintain that Israel is trying to kill everyone in Lebanon.
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Sure looks like it though.
Haha, you got owned.
You always pick on my spelling. Looking for every typo to redicule me. And you got owned.
You remind me off that silly kid in class that allways laughed out loud when someone gave a wrong answer. Sometimes, he would laugh when the answer was correct however.
Focussed.
Did that piss you off? It did, didn’t it ! ! !
But you haven’t learned much from that experience, have you effR?
For someone who’s so particular about spelling, you do seem to have a lot a problems getting my name right. Why is that effr? Is it because you’re stupid?
I’m sure reason must disgust stupid people.
My point is that the way Israel is handling this conflict will, in the long term, only strengthen Hezbollah and fundamentalist Muslims in the entire region. But hey, if that’s what you want, good luck with it.
You’ll still be trolling boards like these in 10 - 20 years with the same topics.
[quote]harris447 wrote:
Gregus wrote:
This is an unwinable war. The violence will never end there and not because there’s fanatics living there, but rather because Israel is an illegal nation. I hope this is not uncomfortable for some but it’s the truth. Sure it may be “legal” in our convenient system, but morally speaking it’s not. It was put there and in effect drawn in on the map by the west after WW2. Oooo, never mind the people that live there already with their own culture etc… They’ll get used to it, it will better them anyway. So there you have it.
This is my simplistic and kindergarden level take on this issue. But there is a fundamental truism to what i said.
Sure you can rebuke what i said with fancy language, links and arguments. Simple fact remains though, Israel should not be there in the first place. Until we deal with this, we’ll just be dealing with the side effects of it being there. And since israel will not go anywhere now, this is a conflict without end. Accept it, move on and wash your hands of the whole deal. If you don’t you’re bound to bring their troubles over here. Opps, wait, that happened already too.
According to your logic, all the damn whities shouldn’t be in America.
Biggest bastard gets to eat first.
Way of the world.
Arabs wanted to keep Palestine for themselves? They should have fucking fought harder.
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A comparitivist mentality get’s nowhere in an argument. Try again.
[quote]Gregus wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Gregus wrote:
This is an unwinable war. The violence will never end there and not because there’s fanatics living there, but rather because Israel is an illegal nation. I hope this is not uncomfortable for some but it’s the truth. Sure it may be “legal” in our convenient system, but morally speaking it’s not. It was put there and in effect drawn in on the map by the west after WW2. Oooo, never mind the people that live there already with their own culture etc… They’ll get used to it, it will better them anyway. So there you have it.
This is my simplistic and kindergarden level take on this issue. But there is a fundamental truism to what i said.
Sure you can rebuke what i said with fancy language, links and arguments. Simple fact remains though, Israel should not be there in the first place. Until we deal with this, we’ll just be dealing with the side effects of it being there. And since israel will not go anywhere now, this is a conflict without end. Accept it, move on and wash your hands of the whole deal. If you don’t you’re bound to bring their troubles over here. Opps, wait, that happened already too.
According to your logic, all the damn whities shouldn’t be in America.
Biggest bastard gets to eat first.
Way of the world.
Arabs wanted to keep Palestine for themselves? They should have fucking fought harder.
A comparitivist mentality get’s nowhere in an argument. Try again.[/quote]
His statements do however stand as truthfull don’t you agree?
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Gregus wrote:
This is an unwinable war. The violence will never end there and not because there’s fanatics living there, but rather because Israel is an illegal nation. I hope this is not uncomfortable for some but it’s the truth. Sure it may be “legal” in our convenient system, but morally speaking it’s not. It was put there and in effect drawn in on the map by the west after WW2. Oooo, never mind the people that live there already with their own culture etc… They’ll get used to it, it will better them anyway. So there you have it.
This is my simplistic and kindergarden level take on this issue. But there is a fundamental truism to what i said.
Sure you can rebuke what i said with fancy language, links and arguments. Simple fact remains though, Israel should not be there in the first place. Until we deal with this, we’ll just be dealing with the side effects of it being there. And since israel will not go anywhere now, this is a conflict without end. Accept it, move on and wash your hands of the whole deal. If you don’t you’re bound to bring their troubles over here. Opps, wait, that happened already too.
According to your logic, all the damn whities shouldn’t be in America.
Biggest bastard gets to eat first.
Way of the world.
Arabs wanted to keep Palestine for themselves? They should have fucking fought harder.
Well, if that’s your position, than you should be pleased to notice that they are still fighting. And fighting pretty hard.[/quote]
Yup. Just like the dumb fucks do every dozen or so years.
[quote]Haha, you got owned.
You always pick on my spelling. Looking for every typo to redicule me. And you got owned.
You remind me off that silly kid in class that allways laughed out loud when someone gave a wrong answer. Sometimes, he would laugh when the answer was correct however.
Focussed.
Did that piss you off? It did, didn’t it ! ! !
But you haven’t learned much from that experience, have you effR?[/quote]
Owned? I am all over your little game. You are lazy. You found an Old English spelling of a word you messed up and you think I was “owned.” Sad.
The clincher is your continuous spelling errors. What does “redicule” mean?
Your spelling is a lazy as your thinking.
It says much about you as a person.
You are reckless. Get it?
Let’s get serious. You are a stranger to reason. You really shouldn’t discuss something for which you are so unfamiliar.
[quote]My point is that the way Israel is handling this conflict will, in the long term, only strengthen Hezbollah and fundamentalist Muslims in the entire region. But hey, if that’s what you want, good luck with it.
You’ll still be trolling boards like these in 10 - 20 years with the same topics.
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reckless, apparently you haven’t noticed the “other way” hasn’t been working. Talk is not getting them anywhere.
[quote]Gregus wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Gregus wrote:
This is an unwinable war. The violence will never end there and not because there’s fanatics living there, but rather because Israel is an illegal nation. I hope this is not uncomfortable for some but it’s the truth. Sure it may be “legal” in our convenient system, but morally speaking it’s not. It was put there and in effect drawn in on the map by the west after WW2. Oooo, never mind the people that live there already with their own culture etc… They’ll get used to it, it will better them anyway. So there you have it.
This is my simplistic and kindergarden level take on this issue. But there is a fundamental truism to what i said.
Sure you can rebuke what i said with fancy language, links and arguments. Simple fact remains though, Israel should not be there in the first place. Until we deal with this, we’ll just be dealing with the side effects of it being there. And since israel will not go anywhere now, this is a conflict without end. Accept it, move on and wash your hands of the whole deal. If you don’t you’re bound to bring their troubles over here. Opps, wait, that happened already too.
According to your logic, all the damn whities shouldn’t be in America.
Biggest bastard gets to eat first.
Way of the world.
Arabs wanted to keep Palestine for themselves? They should have fucking fought harder.
A comparitivist mentality get’s nowhere in an argument. Try again.[/quote]
Throwing around big important ‘isms’ kinda gets undercut when you don’t know how to use apostrophes.
Thanks for taking the time to type out your response. Most of it is tantamount to support of the unsupportable. You have empathy for the cause and tactics of the terrorists. Enough said.
Now, I must take SERIOUS issue with one comment buried in your ramblings.
I seriously don’t know where the europeans come up with this sort of comment:
I see two possiblities. Either you are not taught the truth. Or, you are betting that we don’t know the truth.
Either way, these comments deserve a severe rebuke every time they are expressed.
Here is a little list of things that happpened involving only our maritime fleets.
It doesn’t take into full account the effect of Lend Lease which Churchill credited as having saved the entire war effort.
I have no doubt that you recall that Churchill and FDR met off of Halifax and divided escort duties between them.
I know you will also recall that this meeting occurred before the outbreak of World War II.
Sept 4 . US cruisers establish patrol off the eastern seaboard to observe and report the movements of foreign men-of-war.
Sept 8 . FDR proclaims limited state of emergency in US.
Sept 13. 40 mothballed WWI destroyers to be reconditioned for “neutrality patrol”.
Oct 16. Ranger (CV-4) and San Francisco (CA-38) are mobilized to locate and trail German tanker departed Tampico, Mexico, for Admiral Graf Spee.
Oct 20. USN to use plain language radio reporting of contacts.
Nov 4 . Cash & Carry amendment to Neutrality Act allowed US to supply munitions to Allies.
1940
May 3 . Greenland, a crown colony of Denmark, seeks U.S. protection, so that Danish sovereignty can be maintained during the German occupation of the homeland.
Aug 27. Compulsory military service established (the draft)
Sep 3 . US trades Britain 50 destroyers from US WWI reserve fleet for leases on bases.
Nov 16. Destroyer McCormick (DD-223), on neutrality patrol off Tampico, Mexico, radios attempt of German freighter Orinoco to make for European waters. Destroyer Plunkett (DD-431), by her presence, thwarts German tanker Phrygia’s bid for freedom; Phrygia’s crew scuttles her.
Dec 8 . Destroyer Sturtevant (DD-240) stands by while British light cruiser HMS Diomede intercepts German freighter Idarwald.
Dec 11. German freighter Rhein, having been tailed by destroyer Simpson (DD-221) and, later, MacLeish (DD-220), is intercepted by Dutch destroyer leader Van Kinsbergen near the Florida Straits, and is scuttled by her own crew to avoid capture. MacLeish and McCormick (DD-223) are present as the German ship’s bid to escape fails.
US extends “neutral zone” to 300 miles.
1941
March 1. Support Force Atlantic Fleet established for protection of convoys in North Atlantic.
Mar 11. US votes Lend-Lease Act to aid England.
Mar 17. Coast Guard cutter Cayuga takes South Greenland Survey Expedition, US representatives to locate sites of bases on Greenland’s soil.
Mar 27. ABC Conference. Atlantic Fleet is to help the Royal Navy convoy ships across the Atlantic. The agreement inextricably links the U.S. Navy in the effort against Germany.
Mar 30. U S seizes Axis ships in US ports.
April 10. Niblack (DD-424) a new, Benson class destroyer on “Neutrality Patrol”, rescuing survivors, depth charged a contact off Iceland.
Apr 10. FDR authorizes the transfer of 10 “Lake”-class Coast Guard cutters to the Royal Navy. Transfers completed Apr 30-May 30.
Apr 18. US declares Greenland and Iceland in its sphere of interest.
Apr 24. Neutrality Patrol is extended east to 26?W, Iceland, and 20?S, almost to Rio.
Apr 26. US to supply French North Africa.
May 22. Part of US Pacific fleet ordered to Atlantic.
May 24. USN PBYs from Newfoundland search for Bismarck in the western Atlantic.
May 26. USN observers flying two separate RAF Catalinas sight Bismarck. British fleet units converge on the lone German capital ship.
May 27. Roosevelt proclaims unlimited state of emergency, including delivery of supplies to Britain, because of Axis battleship incursion of western Atlantic.
May 27. Elements of Pacific fleet move to Atlantic patrol.
May 29. US begins “Neutrality Patrols” in North, Central and Southern Atlantic.
June 12. Naval Reserve called to active duty.
June 14. US freezes German and Italian assets.
June 16. US closed German and Italian consulates.
June 20. FDR addresses Congress concerning the German sinking of U.S. freighter Robin Moor.
Jun 22. Germany invades USSR.
July 4 . US marines under US air cover relieve British troops in Iceland for duty elsewhere.
Aug 1 . US-USSR accord signed.
Aug 8 . US Army and Air units convoyed to Iceland.
Aug 9 . Atlantic Charter, a strategy meeting in Newfoundland between President FDR and Prime Minister WSC. Agree, when the US enters the war, Germany first. US warships to escort British merchant ships between the United States and Iceland.
Sept 4 . Recommissioned destroyer Greer (DD-145), tracked U-652 for several hours. Each attacked the other without injury.
Sep 10 . First Liberator bomber to England.
Sep 11. FDR broadcasts “shoot on sight” order.
Sep 12. Coast Guard cutters seize Norwegian trawler Buskoe in Mackenzie Bay, Greenland, thwarting establishing German radio weather stations.
Oct 5 . Naval Conference between US and British commanders in Singapore.
Oct 16-Nov 1. DDs escorting Atlantic convoy make depth charge attacks daily after six merchant ships sunk in five hours.
Oct 25-Nov 8. Yorktown (CV-5), New Mexico (BB-41), and 11 other American warships were screening convoys to and from MOMP.
Oct 28. Screening destroyer Anderson picked up a submarine contact and dropped depth charges noticing “considerable oil slick”.
Nov 1-4. PBYs and PBMs provide air coverage for convoy ON 31.
Nov 4 . Omaha (CL-4), Memphis (CL-13) and 3 DDs search for German surface raider.
Nov 6 . Omaha (CL-4) and Somers (DD-381), en route to Recife, Brazil, returning from the 3,023-mile patrol, captures German blockade runner Odenwald, disguised as U.S. freighter Willmoto, in Atlantic equatorial waters . See reader provided story.
Nov 10. First United States-escorted troop convoy, transporting more than 20,000 British troops, in six USN ships sailed from Halifax for the Far East.
Nov 10-20. DDs attack numerous sound contacts.
Nov 11. Lend Lease for de Gaulle’s Free French.
Nov 11. Navy ordered to attack any vessel threatening US shipping.
Nov 13. Amend Neutrality Act: arm US ships, enter war zones.
Nov 17. Archer (BAVG 1) is the first of 38 escort carriers transferred to the UK during the war under Lend-Lease program.
Nov 25. US troops to Dutch Guiana to protect bauxite mines.
Dec 3 . Turkey has “for sometime” been receiving lend lease aid.
Germany Against US
1939
Sept 3 . Submarine U-30 torpedoes British passenger liner Athenia without warning in the belief that she is an armed merchant cruiser; 28 American citizens are among the dead.
Sep 10. U.S. freighter Wacosta, bound from Scotland to New York is stopped by German submarine for three hours.
1941
Jan 30. Germany announces that ships of any nationality bringing aid to Great Britain will be torpedoed.
Apr 17. Neutral Egyptian steamship Zamzam is shelled and sunk by German auxiliary cruiser Atlantis (Schiffe 16) in South Atlantic; 138 Americans (including 24 ambulance drivers) are among rescued passengers . See reader provided story.
May 21. Unarmed U.S. freighter Robin Moor, en route to South Africa and Mozambique, is stopped and sunk by German submarine U-69 (torpedo and gunfire) about 700 miles off the west coast of Africa. First American merchantman sunk by a U-boat in World War II. Crew given food and directions by submarine.
Jun 19. Germany and Italy request closure of U.S. consulates.
Sep 7 . SS Steel Seafarer bombed and sunk in Red Sea.
Oct 17. Kearney (DD-432) escorting a convoy was attacked by U-boat off the coast of Iceland with 11 killed.
Oct 19. Unarmed U.S. freighter Lehigh is torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U-126 off Freetown, Sierra Leone
Oct 28. Oiler Salinas (AO-19), in convoy ON 28, is torpedoed by German submarine U-106 about 700 miles east of Newfoundland.
Oct 31. Reuben James (DD-245), an older destroyer on convoy duty west of Iceland, was sunk by U-boat with loss of 115 men.
Oct 31. DuPont (DD-152) is attacked by U-boat, but missed.
Dec 2 . German submarine U-43 torpedoes and sinks unarmed U.S. tanker Astral and her 37 man crew.
Dec 3 . Unarmed U.S. freighter Sagadahoc is torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U-124 in South Atlantic.
Espionage
German espionage rings in the US were destroyed in a sweep on June 28, 1941, well before Pearl Harbor and formal US entry into the war. A naturalized U.S. citizen, was threaten with blackmail to become a radio operator for the Abwar. William Sebold sought the advice of the American Consul and became a double agent sending large quantities of approved information. He was considered so valuable in Germany that he was put in contact with all German agents in the U.S. Thirty-three people were rounded up after 16-months of operation…
U.S. Against Japan
1940
Jan 26. Minesweeper Quail (AM-15) arrives at Palmyra Island with construction party to build a naval air station.
May 7 . Pacific fleet ordered to stay in Pearl Harbor indefinitely.
July 5 . Ban strategic materials to Japan.
July 19. Naval Expansion Act for “Two Ocean Navy”: to build 11 BB, 11 CV, 50 CL, 100 DD.
Sep 25. Reduce oil exports to Japan.
Oct 8 . U.S. advises citizens leave Far East
Oct 14. Three U.S. passenger liners to Japan and China to repatriate American citizens from that region in view of prevailing “abnormal conditions” there.
1941
US did not close Japanese consulates, as it had German and Italian, thus allowing Japan to continue gathering military intelligence, including monitoring US fleet movements.
Jan 9 . Transport William Ward Burrows (AP-6) arrives at Wake Island with first increment of workmen (Contractors Pacific Naval Air Bases) to begin building a naval air station there.
Mar 30. Elements arrive Palmyra Island in Antares (AKS-3) to begin construction of defenses.
Mar 30. Elements arrive Johnston Island in Boggs (DMS-3) to begin construction of defenses.
Apr 15. FDR authorizes forming the American Volunteer Group (AVG), which will become known as the “Flying Tigers.” Over half of the pilots will be from the Navy and Marine Corps.
Apr 27. American-Dutch-British Conference at Singapore on combined operating plan in the event of war.
July 26. US freezes Japanese assets and stops export of oil to Japan.
July 26. Philippine military forces are called into service with U.S. Army.
Oct 4 . Suspend oil shipments to Japan.
Nov 14." China Marines" ordered to Philippines.
Japan Against US
1937
Dec 12. US Gunboat Panay (PR-5) intentionally attacked and sunk on Yangtze River in China.
1940
Apr 19. Japanese government informs U.S. they have no aggressive intentions toward the Netherlands East Indies.
Sep 27. Japan joins German and Italian Axis in Tripartite Pact to support each other’s military aims. And Japan complained when export shipments of oil and steel were then curtailed and used that as part of their explanation of going to war !
1941
Jan 20. Spy network initiated to continue gathering information in case of war.
July 2 . Japan calls up one million army conscripts.
July 24. Japan occupies French Indochina, approved by Vichy.
Nov 27. Six carrier task force sails for Pearl Harbor. Thirty submarines.
Dec 7 . Khota Baru, Malaya invaded, 2 hours before Pearl Harbor attacked.
Dec 7 . Unarmed US steamer shelled and sunk by submarine I-26, no survivors.
You owe an apology to the United States and all family members who lost loved ones as they were not “generally as neutral as Switzerland.”
If you don’t, again, nothing more needs to be said. It will reflect upon you.
Aight sorry. As much as i believe the US only defend what is in their selfish interests, i’ll admit they were involved. (My mother is a history teacher, specialising in ww2 and ww1, i do know. apologies again)
That insensitive exaggeration of mine (which is a little true, as i think you’ll agree that the US advertises itself as the home of freedom, so it follows they should most strenuously oppose fascism) was just to suggest that since 9/11 you have all become paranoid about terrorism, and now your judgement is clouded. SO MANY TIMES i’ve said i don’t condone or endorse terrorism, but i feel privileged that it’s not a mystery to me. I feel understanding is the beginning of evolution, and renaissance. If you honestly can’t see that my empathy is for both sides’ innocents, above all that are in war, then i’ve failed in expressing myself.
Please, whoever said talking hasn’t worked, don’t say that ignorant shit again. It’s untrue, diplomacy has never been applied objectively out there.
Respect to all USA citizens who died in wars fighting for what’s right.
Fuck all people of any nationality who can’t see beyond their own concerns to understand that opposing terrorists by force has never worked effectively, has only escalated hatred and recruited new terrorists. I don’t expect anyone to like, or support terrorists, especially from a culture so far removed from our own. But there’s going to be a lot of blood spilled if we don’t DEFUSE that situation, not pick a bigger weapon. My ideas for this are all of my posts where i haven’t had to defend my age/experience/ grammar/spelling
Seriously, today i saw that Israel are in England’s group for the European Championships. That’s crazy. They’re playing football to be the best team in Europe- They’re no in Europe- they left Europe quite deliberately. How weird (not related to war, but England don’t want to play their match in Tel Aviv, and who can blame them)
JeffR, only one resolution is needed if it’s applied. And enforced. Israel doesn’t adhere to UN resolutions just as much as palestine doesn’t, except Israel is supposed to be a ‘law abiding country’. The terrorists aren’t purporting to be any such thing
[quote]dannyrat wrote:
Fuck all people of any nationality who can’t see beyond their own concerns to understand that opposing terrorists by force has never worked effectively…
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It’s funny how you preach diplomacy couched in such diplomatic language.
Very sad actually man. What would you say to someone who encourages a war you know has a foundation of deep stinking corruption and is becoming more irrational all the time because of irresponsible airstrikes? I say fuck off
A comparitivist mentality get’s nowhere in an argument. Try again.
Throwing around big important ‘isms’ kinda gets undercut when you don’t know how to use apostrophes.
My philosophy is not comparativist. It’s realist.[/quote]
Why did your little defense mechanism have to kick in? Do you really feel the need to point out a grammatical error? And there is nothing big about any words i threw around, while they may seem big to you they certainly won’t be to the population at large.
The reason a brouht up the comparativist mentality is because it’s a type of argument that’s a silly copout when you have nothing intelligent to say. Let me give you some examples.
Your wife or girlfriend can complain that you hit her. You comeback will be, " oh it’s not so bad, look at the women in Afghanistan"
People will complain about losses in provacy in the USA, and your comeback will be " that’s nothing, look at China".
All valid and true but stupid arguments none the less. That’s what makes a comparativist look silly but you stated that it’s your reality.
A comparitivist mentality get’s nowhere in an argument. Try again.
Throwing around big important ‘isms’ kinda gets undercut when you don’t know how to use apostrophes.
My philosophy is not comparativist. It’s realist.
Why did your little defense mechanism have to kick in? Do you really feel the need to point out a grammatical error? And there is nothing big about any words i threw around, while they may seem big to you they certainly won’t be to the population at large.
The reason a brouht up the comparativist mentality is because it’s a type of argument that’s a silly copout when you have nothing intelligent to say. Let me give you some examples.
Your wife or girlfriend can complain that you hit her. You comeback will be, " oh it’s not so bad, look at the women in Afghanistan"
People will complain about losses in provacy in the USA, and your comeback will be " that’s nothing, look at China".
All valid and true but stupid arguments none the less. That’s what makes a comparativist look silly but you stated that it’s your reality.
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No, a stupid argument would be this constant refrain of “Israel shouldn’t be there.”
It is. Move on.
Your examples are shit. Try again.
(Y’see how that makes one seem like a moronic douchebag?)
A comparitivist mentality get’s nowhere in an argument. Try again.
Throwing around big important ‘isms’ kinda gets undercut when you don’t know how to use apostrophes.
My philosophy is not comparativist. It’s realist.
Why did your little defense mechanism have to kick in? Do you really feel the need to point out a grammatical error? And there is nothing big about any words i threw around, while they may seem big to you they certainly won’t be to the population at large.
The reason a brouht up the comparativist mentality is because it’s a type of argument that’s a silly copout when you have nothing intelligent to say. Let me give you some examples.
Your wife or girlfriend can complain that you hit her. You comeback will be, " oh it’s not so bad, look at the women in Afghanistan"
People will complain about losses in provacy in the USA, and your comeback will be " that’s nothing, look at China".
All valid and true but stupid arguments none the less. That’s what makes a comparativist look silly but you stated that it’s your reality.
No, a stupid argument would be this constant refrain of “Israel shouldn’t be there.”
It is. Move on.
Your examples are shit. Try again.
(Y’see how that makes one seem like a moronic douchebag?)
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Whew, talking to you is like talking to a retard. Just no point to it really. You’re just very thick headed and an ego maniac. SO, just ignore me from now on cause I’ll ignore you too.
A comparitivist mentality get’s nowhere in an argument. Try again.
Throwing around big important ‘isms’ kinda gets undercut when you don’t know how to use apostrophes.
My philosophy is not comparativist. It’s realist.
Why did your little defense mechanism have to kick in? Do you really feel the need to point out a grammatical error? And there is nothing big about any words i threw around, while they may seem big to you they certainly won’t be to the population at large.
The reason a brouht up the comparativist mentality is because it’s a type of argument that’s a silly copout when you have nothing intelligent to say. Let me give you some examples.
Your wife or girlfriend can complain that you hit her. You comeback will be, " oh it’s not so bad, look at the women in Afghanistan"
People will complain about losses in provacy in the USA, and your comeback will be " that’s nothing, look at China".
All valid and true but stupid arguments none the less. That’s what makes a comparativist look silly but you stated that it’s your reality.
No, a stupid argument would be this constant refrain of “Israel shouldn’t be there.”
It is. Move on.
Your examples are shit. Try again.
(Y’see how that makes one seem like a moronic douchebag?)
Whew, talking to you is like talking to a retard. Just no point to it really. You’re just very thick headed and an ego maniac. SO, just ignore me from now on cause I’ll ignore you too.[/quote]
Nope. I’m gonna point out that you have no point, so you just resort to bullshit name-calling.
The egomaniac thing was cute. Totally irrelevant, wrong, and (to use your little word) retarded.
[quote]LBRTRN wrote:
Who’s citizens elected Hezbollah into their parliament? Who’s gov’t allows a terrorist organization to control the southern half of its country? When you play with fire…[/quote]
Whose 1982 invasion led to the creation of that very organization?
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
LBRTRN wrote:
Who’s citizens elected Hezbollah into their parliament? Who’s gov’t allows a terrorist organization to control the southern half of its country? When you play with fire…
Whose 1982 invasion led to the creation of that very organization?
This is a fun game.
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You are a fucking moron if you equate peacekeepers without ammunition to an invasion.
I have totally lost patience with you lunatics that have ruined this forum.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I have totally lost patience with you lunatics that have ruined this forum.
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Seriously Zap, the only thing that keeps these retards posting is sensible individuals taking their bait and replying to them. They’re trolls, plain and simple. I think they should be treated as such.
I for one will no longer reply to these silly fucks. I’m trying to remember how the saying goes:
“Never argue with a fool, pretty soon nobody will be able to tell the difference”