Why Won't Romney Release His Tax Returns?

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

no that is not what I mean , most of the lies you stated are broken promises[/quote]

No, they are positions taken to get elected and move poll numbers only to be conveniently reversed when the time comes to act.[/quote]

They are promises designed to get Obama elected , I agree but they are still broken promises. He is not saying that Obama care should be law and then Obama care should not be law and then say I was never for either side . That is what I am saying[/quote]

Do you realize that you are rationalizing Obama’s lies? Both men are saying one thing and then at a later date for political purposes reversing themselves.

You like Obama more than Romney so you are rationalizing Obama’s lies to justify a vote for him.

My gosh can’t you see that?

Both men have lied.

Simple.

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We agree both men are liars but one is more subtle the other thinks we are too stupid to spot blatant lies

watch the video , show me where Obama says he does something then he says he does not and then where he said he did neither[/quote]

Dont you think that are starting to grasp for straws now?

So, well, maybe one is a little bit less of a liar than the other one.

I dont believe it, but you might?

He could still be a bigger douche.

Easily.

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I do not even think my point is all that subtle . It would be equivalent to the difference between manslaughter and premeditated murder . One could be an accident (NOT BEING ABLE TO KEEP PROMISE) and one was reasoned (CHANGING STORY TO WHAT EVER IS PRUDENT)
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Yes.

What does it matter?

One lies on purpose, the other one thinks he is Jesus�??�?�´ second coming but isnt.

I like the liar better.[/quote]

It is your prerogative to like any one you like . And while I do like like Obama I feel it prudent to look at the facts and not the Rehetoric.
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I dont care about the facts for now.

Obama promised things that he could have kept and a lot of things he could not possibly have kept.

Romney, arguably is an opportunist.

So, either a liar or a deluded madman.

This distinction seems to carry more weight for you than it should.

Why?[/quote]

the rhetoric in which I speak is calling Obama mad or Jesus , that is rhetoric pure and simple

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
And while I do like like Obama I feel it prudent to look at the facts and not the Rehetoric.
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Totally agree.

Can you point out the good Obama has done? I won’t call you names, promise. ;)[/quote]

no I can not

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
And while I do like like Obama I feel it prudent to look at the facts and not the Rehetoric.
[/quote]

Totally agree.

Can you point out the good Obama has done? I won’t call you names, promise. ;)[/quote]

no I can not
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I do not care if I am called names

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

no that is not what I mean , most of the lies you stated are broken promises[/quote]

No, they are positions taken to get elected and move poll numbers only to be conveniently reversed when the time comes to act.[/quote]

They are promises designed to get Obama elected , I agree but they are still broken promises. He is not saying that Obama care should be law and then Obama care should not be law and then say I was never for either side . That is what I am saying[/quote]

Do you realize that you are rationalizing Obama’s lies? Both men are saying one thing and then at a later date for political purposes reversing themselves.

You like Obama more than Romney so you are rationalizing Obama’s lies to justify a vote for him.

My gosh can’t you see that?

Both men have lied.

Simple.

[/quote]

We agree both men are liars but one is more subtle the other thinks we are too stupid to spot blatant lies

watch the video , show me where Obama says he does something then he says he does not and then where he said he did neither[/quote]

Dont you think that are starting to grasp for straws now?

So, well, maybe one is a little bit less of a liar than the other one.

I dont believe it, but you might?

He could still be a bigger douche.

Easily.

[/quote]

I do not even think my point is all that subtle . It would be equivalent to the difference between manslaughter and premeditated murder . One could be an accident (NOT BEING ABLE TO KEEP PROMISE) and one was reasoned (CHANGING STORY TO WHAT EVER IS PRUDENT)
[/quote]

Yes.

What does it matter?

One lies on purpose, the other one thinks he is Jesus�??�??�?�´ second coming but isnt.

I like the liar better.[/quote]

It is your prerogative to like any one you like . And while I do like like Obama I feel it prudent to look at the facts and not the Rehetoric.
[/quote]

I dont care about the facts for now.

Obama promised things that he could have kept and a lot of things he could not possibly have kept.

Romney, arguably is an opportunist.

So, either a liar or a deluded madman.

This distinction seems to carry more weight for you than it should.

Why?[/quote]

the rhetoric in which I speak is calling Obama mad or Jesus , that is rhetoric pure and simple
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Excuse me, this is the guy that promised that his election would be remembered as the moment that the oceans would stop to rise, the planet would start to heal and whatnot.

What would you call that if not messianic?

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
And while I do like like Obama I feel it prudent to look at the facts and not the Rehetoric.
[/quote]

Totally agree.

Can you point out the good Obama has done? I won’t call you names, promise. ;)[/quote]

no I can not
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haha, fair enough.

Why do you like him then? Is it purely because you feel he is better than Romney?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
And while I do like like Obama I feel it prudent to look at the facts and not the Rehetoric.
[/quote]

Totally agree.

Can you point out the good Obama has done? I won’t call you names, promise. ;)[/quote]

no I can not
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haha, fair enough.

Why do you like him then? Is it purely because you feel he is better than Romney?[/quote]

Oh come on you know where Pitt is coming from. He has a union mentality. His father was a democrat, his Uncle is a democrat his grandfather was a democrat, his cousin is a democrat, his dog is a democrat…bla bla freaking bla…He’d vote for a piece of wood over Romney if MSNBC told him it was a democrat.

Why give someone else a chance at the Presidency when we can reelect a guy who has failed for four years? As long as he’s a democrat Pitt has to stand behind him.

Ho hum…

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
His father was a democrat, his Uncle is a democrat his grandfather was a democrat, his cousin is a democrat, his dog is a democrat…bla bla freaking bla…He’d vote for a piece of wood over Romney if MSNBC told him it was a democrat.

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I grew up like this. Lived what you are talking about…

I don’t talk politics when I go to my mom’s anymore, I would want to shoot myself.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
And while I do like like Obama I feel it prudent to look at the facts and not the Rehetoric.
[/quote]

Totally agree.

Can you point out the good Obama has done? I won’t call you names, promise. ;)[/quote]

no I can not
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haha, fair enough.

Why do you like him then? Is it purely because you feel he is better than Romney?[/quote]

I do not like Obama my intention is to vote for the libertarian candidate . The only way I would vote for Obama is if I thought Romney may win. I know I am a hypocrite :slight_smile: And yes I do think Obama is the lesser of two bad choices

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
And while I do like like Obama I feel it prudent to look at the facts and not the Rehetoric.
[/quote]

Totally agree.

Can you point out the good Obama has done? I won’t call you names, promise. ;)[/quote]

no I can not
[/quote]

haha, fair enough.

Why do you like him then? Is it purely because you feel he is better than Romney?[/quote]

Oh come on you know where Pitt is coming from. He has a union mentality. His father was a democrat, his Uncle is a democrat his grandfather was a democrat, his cousin is a democrat, his dog is a democrat…bla bla freaking bla…He’d vote for a piece of wood over Romney if MSNBC told him it was a democrat.

Why give someone else a chance at the Presidency when we can reelect a guy who has failed for four years? As long as he’s a democrat Pitt has to stand behind him.

Ho hum…[/quote]

hey you leave my dog out of this

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
His father was a democrat, his Uncle is a democrat his grandfather was a democrat, his cousin is a democrat, his dog is a democrat…bla bla freaking bla…He’d vote for a piece of wood over Romney if MSNBC told him it was a democrat.

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I grew up like this. Lived what you are talking about…

I don’t talk politics when I go to my mom’s anymore, I would want to shoot myself.[/quote]

Last political thing I heard my mom say was she liked Palin.

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
His father was a democrat, his Uncle is a democrat his grandfather was a democrat, his cousin is a democrat, his dog is a democrat…bla bla freaking bla…He’d vote for a piece of wood over Romney if MSNBC told him it was a democrat.

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I grew up like this. Lived what you are talking about…

I don’t talk politics when I go to my mom’s anymore, I would want to shoot myself.[/quote]

Last political thing I heard my mom say was she liked Palin.[/quote]

Sorry to hear that , I also know my mother (RIP) would have liked the dim one .

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
His father was a democrat, his Uncle is a democrat his grandfather was a democrat, his cousin is a democrat, his dog is a democrat…bla bla freaking bla…He’d vote for a piece of wood over Romney if MSNBC told him it was a democrat.

[/quote]

I grew up like this. Lived what you are talking about…

I don’t talk politics when I go to my mom’s anymore, I would want to shoot myself.[/quote]

Last political thing I heard my mom say was she liked Palin.[/quote]

Smart woman. Clearly the apple fell far from the tree.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/report-21-trillion-hidden-taxman-offshore-accounts-article-1.1119613[/quote]

lol that you think this report or a journalist actually knows WTF is going on.

Yes rich people have money in countries that have lax tax rules. Why this surprises anyone is beyond me.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/report-21-trillion-hidden-taxman-offshore-accounts-article-1.1119613[/quote]

lol that you think this report or a journalist actually knows WTF is going on.

Yes rich people have money in countries that have lax tax rules. Why this surprises anyone is beyond me.[/quote]

I think the scale is surprising , 21,000,0000,000,000 is fucking huge, taxing it would probably support the worlds budget .

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hey beans , you tell me 21 trillion is a pile of 21 million time a million ? right

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or 21 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000 = 21,000,000,000,000

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/report-21-trillion-hidden-taxman-offshore-accounts-article-1.1119613[/quote]

lol that you think this report or a journalist actually knows WTF is going on.

Yes rich people have money in countries that have lax tax rules. Why this surprises anyone is beyond me.[/quote]

I think the scale is surprising , 21,000,0000,000,000 is fucking huge, taxing it would probably support the worlds budget .
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Well, once they bring it back to their home nation, it will more than likely trigger a taxable event.

Hey, I have more in my 401k than a lot of people who read this post will make this year. Should I pay my more taxes on it now so I can feed a poor family and pave a road, or can I pay my taxes on it when I retire and take that money out to use it?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/report-21-trillion-hidden-taxman-offshore-accounts-article-1.1119613[/quote]

lol that you think this report or a journalist actually knows WTF is going on.

Yes rich people have money in countries that have lax tax rules. Why this surprises anyone is beyond me.[/quote]

I think the scale is surprising , 21,000,0000,000,000 is fucking huge, taxing it would probably support the worlds budget .
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Well, once they bring it back to their home nation, it will more than likely trigger a taxable event.

Hey, I have more in my 401k than a lot of people who read this post will make this year. Should I pay my more taxes on it now so I can feed a poor family and pave a road, or can I pay my taxes on it when I retire and take that money out to use it?[/quote]

not on your investment but on your capital gains

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Hey, I have more in my 401k than a lot of people who read this post will make this year. Should I pay my more taxes on it now so I can feed a poor family and pave a road, or can I pay my taxes on it when I retire and take that money out to use it?[/quote]

not on your investment but on your capital gains [/quote]

LOL, okay. That will reduce total tax revenue. It wouldn’t be just a timing difference either.

So, you would be saving the 1% even more $.