Why We Need a Draft

Why We Need a Draft: A Marine’s Lament

Aug. 28, 2007 - �??Maybe we would have only lost those three instead of 13,�?? I thought to myself on a dusty Friday in Fallujah in early November 2005. I was picking up the pieces of a truck that hours before had been blown apart by an IED, wondering why our equipment wasn�??t better and why three more Marines were dead.

Ramadan had just ended, the period in which a suicide bomber gets double and triple the virgins for killing himself in the name of jihad, and my weapons company, Second Battalion Second Marines, had lost 13 men in the last two weeks�??not from firefights but from roadside bombs likely being imported from Iran.

The insurgents were ramping up their technology, and here we were in the same old trucks. At least these didn�??t have cloth doors like the ones last year. But seriously, was this the best technology we have?

Just then I noticed a big vehicle driving by, one owned by a private contracting company. This thing made our truck look like a Pinto in a Ferrari showroom. It was huge, heavy, ominous, indestructible. I wanted to commandeer it. I wanted to live in it. If only we were in one of those, I would definitely come home, and a lot of the guys who won�??t would too.

As it passed I stared at what I would later learn was called the MRAP vehicle (Mine Resistant Ambush Protective Vehicle). I never thought I would see something in Iraq that enticing, but there it was, rumbling past in all its glory.

I looked at my platoon sergeant. �??Staff sergeant?�??
�??Yes, Finelli?�??
�??Why are the private companies driving around in these things and not the Marine Corps?�?? He looked at me and gave the universal sign for money, rubbing together his thumb and forefinger. And suddenly, I understood. It became clear on that November Friday in Fallujah that America�??s greatest strength, economics, was not in play. A sad realization.

According to the Pentagon, no service personnel have died in an MRAP. So why isn�??t every Marine or soldier in Iraq riding in one? Simple economics. An MRAP costs five times more than even the most up-armored Humvee. People need a personal, vested, blood-or-money interest to maximize potential.

That is why capitalism has trumped communism time and again, but it is also why private contractors in Iraq have MRAPs while Marines don�??t. Because in actuality, America isn�??t practicing the basic tenet of capitalism on the battlefield with an all-volunteer military, and won�??t be until the reinstitution of the draft. Because until the wealthy have that vested interest, until it�??s the sons of senators and the wealthy upper classes sitting in those trucks�??it takes more than the McCain boy or the son of Sen.

Jim Webb�??the best gear won�??t get paid for on an infantryman�??s timetable. Eighteen months after the Marines first asked for the MRAP, it�??s finally being delivered. Though not nearly at the rate that�??s needed. By the end of the year, only 1,500 will have been delivered, less than half the 3,900 the Pentagon had initially promised.

It�??s not hard to figure out who suffers. The 160,000 servicemen and women in Iraq are the latest generation of Americans to represent their country on the field of battle. And like their predecessors, they are abundantly unrepresented in the halls of power.

As a result, they�??ve adopted what I find to be a disturbing outlook on their situation: many don�??t want the draft because they believe it will ruin the military, which they consider their own blue-collar fraternity. They have heard the horror stories from their dads and granddads about �??spoiled�?? rich officers. Have no doubt: there is a distinct disdain for networked America among the fighting class of this country.

When a politician would come on TV in the Camp Fallujah chow hall talking about Iraq, the rank-and-file reaction was always something like, �??Well, I am blue-collar cannon fodder to this wealthy bureaucrat who never got shot at and whose kids aren�??t here. But I know I am making America safer, so I�??ll do my job anyway.�?? And they do, and have been for the last three and a half years, tragically underequipped but always willing to fight.

The real failure of this war, the mistake that has led to all the malaise of Operation Iraqi Freedom, was the failure to not reinstitute the draft on Sept. 12, 2001�??something I certainly believed would happen after running down 61 flights of the South Tower, dodging the carnage as I made my way to the Hudson River [I worked at the World Trade Center as an investment adviser for Morgan Stanley at the time].

But President Bush was determined to keep the lives of nonuniformed America�??the wealthiest Americans, like himself�??uninterrupted by the war. Consequently, we have a severe talent deficiency in the military, which the draft would remedy immediately. While America�??s bravest are in the military, America�??s brightest are not.

Allow me to build a squad of the five brightest students from MIT and Caltech and promise them patrols on the highways connecting Baghdad and Fallujah, and I�??ll bet that in six months they could render IED�??s about as effective as a �??Just Say No�?? campaign at a Grateful Dead show.

On a macro level, we are logistically weakened by the lack of a draft. It takes six to seven soldiers to support one infantryman in combat. So, you are basically asking 30,000 or so �??grunts�?? to secure a nation of 26 million. I assure you, no matter who wins the 2008 election, we are staying in Iraq.

But with the Marine Corps and the Army severely stressed after 3.5 years of desert and urban combat in Iraq�??equipment needs replacing, recruitment efforts are coming up short�??you tell me how we’re going to sustain the current force structure without the draft? The president�??s new war czar, Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute, essentially said as much earlier this month, when he announced that considering the draft �??makes sense.�??

Of course, the outcry was swift and predictable. America has rejected selective service before, though always in the guise of antiwar movements. But they should really be viewed as antidraft movements, and they existed, en masse, when the wealthy could buy their way out of serving�??as Teddy Roosevelt�??s father and his ilk did during the Civil War, or as countless college kids did during the deferment-ridden Vietnam conflict.

Not every draftee has to be a front-line Marine or soldier, but history shows us that most entrepreneurial young men, faced with a fair draft, almost always chose the front. A deferment draft, however, is a different story, and ultimately counterproductive because of the acrimony it breeds.

By allowing the fortunate and, often, most talented to stay home, those who are drafted feel less important than what they are asked to die for. At the end of the day, it was this bitterness that helped fuel the massive antiwar movement that pushed Nixon to end the draft in �??73.

I don�??t favor a Vietnam-style draft, where men like the current vice president could get five deferments. I am talking about a World War II draft, with the brothers and sons of future and former presidents answering the call (and, unfortunately, dying, as a Roosevelt and a Kennedy once did) on the front line. That is when the war effort is maximized.

Quite simply, the military cannot be a faceless horde to those pulling the purse strings of our great economy.

The draft would even hasten a weaning away from foreign oil, I believe, if more Americans felt the nausea that I do every time I go to the pump and underwrite the people who have nearly killed me five times. This war on the jihadists needs to be more discomforting to the average American than just bad news on the tube.

Democracies at war abroad cannot wage a protracted ground operation when the only people who are sacrificing are those who choose to go. This is the greatest lesson of my generation. Young Americans: you may not want to kill jihadists, but they are interested in killing you and your loved ones. Wake up.

Cpl. Mark Finelli is an inactive, noncommissioned Marine Corps officer who served in Iraq from July 2005 to February 2006. He is currently writing a book about surviving 9/11 and fighting in Iraq.

The draft is slavery. 'nuff said.

mike

Finelli is an idealist n ot a realist. Things just aren’t that easy. Ive been to Iraq three times with the Army and once with Halliburton. I consider myself somewhat versed in the subject. However Im not familiar with how the USMC operates I can say that UA’s (Unit of Action) in the Army are taken care of for the most part. I can also tell you from personal experience that private companies(save for special ops teams) usually handle complicated extractions, weapons cache handling and several other teadious and quite dangerous objectives, only backed by the military. The military is often escorted by private companies like Parsons, Global, Blackwater. All employees have SF Special Ops Ranger and a variety of other specialty backgrounds to work for these companies. Certain military units do suffer…I know that… but it is all based on mission objective and at what point in the war your talking about, either way I saw steady progression throughout my time in Iraq 2004-2007. Its often hard as individuals to make accurate depictions of our surroundings without understanding the many variables in which it contains.

There has never been such a thing as a deferment free draft in this country. During WWII, my grandfather on my mother’s side got a deferment, because he was a share cropper with three kids to feed. The son of the landowner he worked for also got a deferment, even though he had no family of his own and hadn’t worked a day in his life.

a draft?!? maybe this bright young marine might want to consider other options - like maybe not occupying other countries. If Iraq ever was a threat to our national security then it probably would have taken us the same three weeks it took us in 2003 to eliminate the threat. Our military’s numbers are perfectly adequate for defending this country - the whole empire building role that we’ve been thrown in is another issue.

A draft is unnecessary with the right foreign policy. We currently do not have that policy.

The armed services must remain completely voluntary or our government can force us into wars that we shouldn’t be waging. Imagine how Vietnam would have been if there had been no draft. It would have ended quite sooner.

Like the free market an all voluntary military ensures only wars worth fighting are being fought. It is a sad thing indeed that so many of this country’s elite do not fight for the land they claim to love but then again…who in our military is really fighting for this country?

If there is a draft, and I’m not saying I’m for it, it should not be restricted to young men. There is no reason young women should be excluded from the opportunity to give their life for their country.

[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
If there is a draft, and I’m not saying I’m for it, it should not be restricted to young men. There is no reason young women should be excluded from the opportunity to give their life for their country.[/quote]

I agree 100%, actually tried to start a thread about this topic a few days ago, Mod didn’t like my comments. This should have been taken up when women were first allowed to volunteer for military service. Concomitant with women being able to serve in the military the powers that be should have required women to sign up for selective service. Since that didn’t happened now is the time to fix that mistake.

NO FUCKING WAY. I’m in the ARMY Reserve, and I have done a tour in Iraq myself and want NO part of any draft. I don’t need leaderless pieces of shit in my ARMY, and I don’t want to have to worry about the criminal with an M-249 riding in a HumVee with me possibly killing my ass for a free ticket out of the combat zone. NO FUCKIN WAY IN HELL do we “need” a draft. It’s been proven that the draft put the ARMY in a state of declination for over 15 years after Vietnam. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!

Stop letting your president start bullshit wars over false pretenses and you won’t have any problem maintaining an all volunteer army.

The difficult recruitment is not the problem; it’s a symptom of the actual problem: misusing the army to fight propagandized “threats” hiding the real politic and economic goals.

If there was really an actual threat, or another attack like Pearl Harbor, you’d have fucking line-ups at the recruiting centers.

You’d also be able to get your armored vehicles because the government could ask the population to make sacrifices and to support (financially) the war effort.

WOW So many lefties out here. No disrespect Pookie, but c-mon you live in Canada you haven’t the faintest idea of “joining your country in its time of need”. Esp the last part of your post man, thats the broadest assumption that could possibly have been made, maybe you don’t quite understand the logistics or presence of gov’t support in Iraq, its immense. There are plenty of armored vehicles for soldiers, don’t let one story sway you. The fact that a “soldier” would sell his country short like that is a disgrace. He should have called his congressman if he had a problem with the way things were working

[quote]T-MIA wrote:
No disrespect Pookie, but c-mon you live in Canada you haven’t the faintest idea of “joining your country in its time of need”. [/quote]

That’s quite a statement.

One would think that in the event any country comes under attack, its citizens will instinctively rally against the agressor. That’s the way most people would react, be they Canadians, Burkinabes, Iraqis, or Chileans.

Talk to any real military expert, and you will hear people against the draft. Some remember working with people drafted, and compare that to the all volunteer army, and say there is a big difference.

The draft was brought up initially to scare young people into voting democrat. And guess what, it worked. I had a few guys in their late teens to early 20’s trying to tell me that a draft was already planned by the Republicans, so they were going to vote Democrat. The Republicans actually brought it up for a vote, and voted it down just to shut down the rumors.

After 911 the military was having to turn away people because so many wanted to join up. Especially the former military who wanted to re-up, but were �??too old�??.

[quote]T-MIA wrote:
WOW So many lefties out here. No disrespect Pookie, but c-mon you live in Canada you haven’t the faintest idea of “joining your country in its time of need”.[/quote]

Why? Canada has an army. It has recruitment offices. If I thought that our communities, families and way of life were under serious threat, why wouldn’t I join up?

It’s not just one story. Ever since the post-war occupation began, there have been stories of Humvees lacking armor, of people buying and sending armored vests to their sons; of various shortages in the equipment.

Remember this from December 2004:

[i]In April, the Pentagon said it was spending $400 million to replace the Army’s thin-skinned Humvees in Iraq with the so-called “uparmored” reinforced versions.

“As you know, you have to go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you want,” Rumsfeld said.[/i]

Oh, he’s a “soldier” now? Guy signs up for service and risks his life daily, but just because he has the audacity to think for himself and voice his opinion, he goes from soldier to “soldier?”

I don’t want to reinstate the draft, as I think it should be person’s choice if they want to serve.

That being said, I wish I actually could go. I would consider it an honor to fight in Iraq. Being 53, sadly, prevents that.

You young gents are missing out by not serving, IMHO. Instead of working in some cubicle or some dumb menial service job, you could be in the front lines. Uncle Sam gives you a huge chunk of change for joining and you get the best training in the world. You get the sheer joy of killing those who would destroy your country.

Where you going to find a better deal than that?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Where you going to find a better deal than that?[/quote]

Try Blackwater dude… they’d like your attitude.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
You young gents are missing out by not serving, IMHO. Instead of working in some cubicle or some dumb menial service job, you could be in the front lines. Uncle Sam gives you a huge chunk of change for joining and you get the best training in the world. You get the sheer joy of killing those who would destroy your country.

Where you going to find a better deal than that?[/quote]

I’m so gung-ho that my own Marines make fun of me, but goddamn dude, sometimes you write some serious bullshit.

[quote]BH6 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
You young gents are missing out by not serving, IMHO. Instead of working in some cubicle or some dumb menial service job, you could be in the front lines. Uncle Sam gives you a huge chunk of change for joining and you get the best training in the world. You get the sheer joy of killing those who would destroy your country.

Where you going to find a better deal than that?

I’m so gung-ho that my own Marines make fun of me, but goddamn dude, sometimes you write some serious bullshit.
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Don’t you support destroying our country’s enemies? Wouldn’t you WANT someone who enjoys doing that?

I’ve never understood the view of ‘Well gee whiz we HAD to kill the sumbitchs!’ In the many fights and later sparring matches I’ve had, its a sheer joy to kick your opponent in the face or to smash out some of his teeth on the asphalt. Why do you go to war if you don’t love it?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

Don’t you support destroying our country’s enemies? Wouldn’t you WANT someone who enjoys doing that?

I’ve never understood the view of ‘Well gee whiz we HAD to kill the sumbitchs!’ In the many fights and later sparring matches I’ve had, its a sheer joy to kick your opponent in the face or to smash out some of his teeth on the asphalt. Why do you go to war if you don’t love it?

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You can see so clearly from the sidelines.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Why do you go to war if you don’t love it?
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Some people do such things because they believe in the cause or the purpose, have a strong sense of duty, see a need that must be filled, not just because they enjoy killing other people.