Brother that is basic strength training
I think you like to play devil’s advocate too much with yourself when it comes to training methodology. You dance too much around the fundamentals pretending they don’t exist and I’m not saying this to be rude, but because I think you’re honestly leaving progress on the table.
Whatever your lifting aspiration is, you’re leaving gains behind with that mentality
No. If done correctly it does not train max. strength directly, since the hard sets are actually around 5-15 rep sets.
Just wait until OP sees 531 for powerlifting haha
It’s still biased towards powerlifting, at least the original 5/3/1
I think you’re misinterpreting me on purpose. How many PLs do 1-3 rep sets year around?
Specially when we talk about hobbyists.
I’m currently training under a coach who has a lot of experience, and I don’t feel I’m leaving anything to the table.
Also, fear of leaving stuff to the table when training is going good is best way to self sabotage your progress.
Ask your coach what powerlifting training or bodybuilding training boils down to. He’s going to have a very specific answer for each.
Probably, but it’s not a powerlifting program such as Sheiko is.
It’s general strength training, it’s something that powerlifters do a lot too
Oh even better. Back to Sheiko. Tell me why Sheiko is a powerlifting program if “powerlifting training” is this esoteric nebulous thing no one can clearly pin down.
I sure hope so.
Should I also ask that should we do specific powerlifting training year around?
You’re still misunderstanding me, probably on purpose.
Sheiko is a powerlifting program since it’s designed to be one.
I know that repetition is the base of all learning. I’ll try again:
Strength training is tied to certain principles, discussed earlier. Strength training can be more or less specific towards powerlifting, weightlifting, strongman etc.
How specific training you use depends on many things. But powerlifting training is just powerlifting specific strength training.
But powerlifters don’t always train super specifically, for various reasons.
When general strength training turns to specific powerlifting training can’t be defined exactly.
“Sheiko is a powerlifting program since it’s designed to be one.” This doesn’t explain anything and I think you’re starting to be intellectually dishonest here. What about it makes it designed to be a powerlifting program?
It’s rather specific to powerlifting. Please read my post above.
If I start to modify Sheiko, when it stops being a powerlifting program?
“But powerlifting training is just powerlifting specific strength training.”
Why? How?
Saying powerlifting training is just powerlifting training is a tautology. Water is water.
Most specific PL training is to do all competition movements to max effort singles in a single workout in a competition gear while you can’t decide rest periods etc.
Everything away from that is less specific. Usually powerlifting programs are fairly specific (using competition lifts, variations and hypertrophic assistance/isolation movements from reps 1 to 12).
But you could say that doing reps from 5 to 12 with added isolation movements is also general strength training.
Would you look at that. You just pinned down powerlifting methodology. And before you said you couldn’t because it’s too blurry therefore you go by whether you compete or not.
So in reality, you’re just dancing around. You say you don’t know what powerlifting methodology is, then you specified Sheiko as a powerlifting program, I asked you why, you tried dancing around that too, I didn’t let you, and now you finally pinned it down.
You are a strange person
That’s not a methodology, that’s spectrum of specificity.
One thing I’ve understood that he really does not appreciate competition. ![]()
What is strange about me? Don’t you see what that other guy is doing? He said the reason he uses competition as a benchmark for whether you’re a powerlifter or not is because pinning down its methodology creates too many buts and isn’t clear. Then he specified that Sheiko was a powerlifting program. I asked him why. He tried giving me some runaround answers until I pressed him more on it then he finally pinned it down to specifics.
No, that’s a methodology. You’re just a dishonest dude without integrity, that’s all.
“Sheiko is a powerlifting program since it’s designed to be one.”
Give me a break