I know no one was talking to me, but dang what did powerlifting do to OP? Leave my big 3 out of this lol.
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I appreciate you being up front and providing more details. I assume those stats are current? What would you estimate your current bodyfat is around?
I’m not trying to change your mind, you’re clearly a zealot and you like your preferred method, similar to Rippetoe you mentioned.
If you’ve been around this long enough you know precisely what I mean about little trap, thin neck guys who avoid heavy weights.
Just curious. Is there any such thing as a “teen collegiate” contest? I know that there is a NPC Collegiate Nationals. But there isn’t a restriction requirement of being a teenager to compete in the Collegiate Nationals that I know of.
Musclememory.com is a data base of results of bodybuilding contests. It is pretty vast. I could not find any contest with teen and collegiate in a category.
The 2012 NPC Collegiate Nationals results showed 6 competitors in the Middleweight Class.
Is the last photo from that 2012 contest or is it much closer to current?
Personally, I appreciate that OP has competed and shared pics when asked. He clearly has put some time in and a lot of folks shy away when told to “prove it”. He is even careful to say he doesn’t know about powerlifting so won’t go there.
I’ve never gone in for the dogmatic “this is the way” approach, which is what’s always turned me off with the HIT debates as well. I also find answering questions nobody asked tends to ruffle all our feathers, but i recognize this is a forum and it’s in the very definition.
Amusingly, way back in the day, Dante Trudel always came off as relatively open-minded to me… but his forum and followers was the exact opposite.
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I’m a zealot but I stay in my lane, Rippetoe does not. Powerlifters are good at what they do and bodybuilders are good at what they do. They both have very different goals and means to achieve them
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Feels like this thread could be summarised as “if you want to look like a bodybuilder, train like a bodybuilder”, which I don’t think it anyone disagreed with? Just seemed like the clickbait title stirred up some discussion.
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I can’t tell. If you did mostly powerlifting then you can technically gain muscle doing so but it would be a lot slower and inefficient, or you could have done a mix. So maybe a better question would be, if you did nothing but bodybuilding, would you be a lot bigger in the same time frame? The answer would be undoubtedly yes. I think “powerbuilding” is more of an abomination because it reminds me too much of recomping. It would be better to focus on one or the other at a time if you want to do both than trying to chase two rabbits at once
You would be surprised because there’s a lot of people who believe they need to train like a powerlifter in order to bodybuild because bodybuilding is associated with a lot of bad advice from ped-users and isn’t as flashy as throwing weight on the bar each week.
Usually there’s not much going on here lately, but 90+ replies since yesterday… I’m impressed -lol
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Whilst I probably wouldn’t disagree, I don’t feel like that description really fits forum? Mind you we don’t have many actual bodybuilders on the forum these days (I know we do have some very good highly competitive members or those who’ve been competitive in the past). Feels more like a bunch of middle aged folks trying to be, bigger, stronger more capable, athletic, leaner etc.
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I feeling emotionally damaged now.
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I’ll send you some stupid old-bodybuilder memes to cheer you up 
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Probably accurate, but ouch.
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Thank you…. You’re the best 
He’s got Fahvs, and you’ve got Twelfs.
What are we talking about again?
Interesting topic. Personally I have mostly trained for strength although I guess I do a mixture as I have done plenty of 12-20 rep sets though depending on the movement but generally squat, bench deadlift under 10 reps. I don’t look like a bodybuilder at all lol to no surprise.
In the end I still think a lot comes down to genetics, and just pure time spent in the gym with intent lifting heavy or light, but consistently and either eating more (growing/getting stronger) or eating maintenance/below and revealing the muscle below the fat layers that was built over said consistent lifting.
Also AAS use needs to be talked about as well since a lot of people pushing certain training and claiming it to be optimal etc are on gear and their bodies response to the gear lets them make gains whether they are lifting heavy low reps, high reps etc.
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If it’s any consolation I count myself in that group!
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Hoo boy…
I’m just being annoying there, but
Ouch!
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