Why the mantra "get stronger to get bigger" is bad advice and how strength training infiltrated bodybuilding

“Hopefully you find one who has qualified to be a judge in one of the federations.

To choose someone who has never competed in a sanctioned Powerlifting meet seems ridiculous.”

you just said it’s ridiculous to choose someone who has never competed in a powerlifting meet as a judge lol.

I reckon you don’t know what a category error is

Have you ever considered burying that dead horse you have been clobbering?

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I do, but how I did make one.

You asked if competing in a PL meet makes you a powerlifter, and I said yes.

You accused me of making up identities yet federations, judges, and sanctioned meets are rules humans made up to standardize how lifts are measured. Therefore I can also make up that training like a powerlifter qualifies as being one.

Humans have made up the whole concept of strength training and everything related to it.

I most definitely DID NOT.

Find a qualified judge if you can. That would be a good thing.

BUT… If you cannot find a qualified judge, at the bare minimum find someone who has AT LEAST competed in a Powerlifting meet. Duh!

Before you said you can’t just make up your identity as a powerlifter without having competed yet federations, judges, and sanctioned meets are rules humans made up to standardize how lifts are measured. Lol

So what IS this “qualified judge” you are talking about if it doesn’t need to be someone who competed?

Whatever the qualifications are for that particular federation.

I said you can, but others don’t need to acknowledge your identity.

I don’t approach this as a identity question, rather what is seen commonly as a sport of powerlifting.

And as I said, this all is made up by humans.

You can invent a new sports and be representative of that sport.

Powerlifting is not a natural law. It’s a man made sport with man made rules.

Ok the qualifications for this federation right here is that if you train like a powerlifter, you’re a powerlifter. If all other federations came make up their rules, why can’t I? You’re being arbitrary

So then you are being arbitrary by appealing to the idea of competing in a federation to be a powerlifter but not someone defining themselves as a powerlifter due to how they train.

You’re arbitrary lol.

You guys brought up some guy in here who identified as a bodybuilder but never competed saying he was not a bodybuilder. But yet if standards are made up by humans, then you’re all just being arbitrary.

You have to draw the line somewhere.

I don’t see every squatting/benching/deadlifting strength trainer as a powerlifter, because then we have two words meaning the same thing.

I don’t like to inflate words. I would not call a race car driver a race car driver if he never drives races (just practices it).

It’s not taking away anything from people who don’t compete. It’s just more clear.

How the standards conserning training are done then?

And on the 3rd day God said, let every guy who lifts a stone be a powerlifter?

You understand that doing this makes the words powerlifter, bodybuilder etc. completely useless?

“You have to draw the line somewhere” is really just a cover for saying, “I like my version better”. It’s a weak justification for arbitrary exclusivity.

Good to know that in end very end, it all boils down to you being arbitrary

Not at all because I believe that each practice has its own unique methodology. Powerlifting training for example is terrible for bodybuilding and vice versa.

Correct, I do like my version more, since it’s easier to justify so that the word powerlifter means something.