Why the mantra "get stronger to get bigger" is bad advice and how strength training infiltrated bodybuilding

Yeah I remember earlier you claimed you were taking the conservative approach “because history” and I showed you that the history itself went through changes and you weren’t being conservative at all.

Powerlifters didn’t have to sit around and allow themselves to be limited by Olympic weight lifting in order for them to do their own thing. It’s built on individual agency.

To say defining a sport practitioner by their training is “not sustainable intellectually” is like saying a pianist isn’t a pianist unless they perform on stage, nonsense. The methodology is the defining feature. The competition is just one context where that methodology is displayed.

Sure Powerlifting morphed off of Olympic Lifting. The changes took a few years to reach a very good finished product. Advocating for sustaining the finished product is the conservative position.

Suggesting that sustaining the “finished product” is the only conservative or legitimate approach ignores decades of informal lifters who advanced strength and technique outside competitions. History shows that practice precedes codification.

Extremely bad analogy.

Good luck with that. I already explained why this doesn’t work.

How many contestants were in the Middleweight Class of the only bodybuilding contest that you entered?

Then I post a pic of my quads.

Do we have a deal?

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Training creates the athlete; competitions just showcase them. You’re never gonna get around this.

And I don’t need to. I’ve explained my rationale. You either can’t or won’t comprehend it.

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So basically, you’re hiding your quads behind a contest trivia question. Just post them already or admit they’re smaller.

You literally believe that if you pulled 135 at a meet and never competed again but then pulled 600 in a garage, that 135 is the strongest you’ve ever been.

That’s how irrational you are.

They probably are. Why don’t you pony up and see?

I’ve never said this.

135 is your powerlifting record, 600 your gym PB. Quite simple.

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600 is still a personal powerlifting record lol.

Why are you so beholden to external validation of a corrupt federation? You do realize that any meet you had via the USAPL is invalid because the IPF expelled it right?

Not it is not. It won’t be accepted in any competition.

I’m not asking them to validate my gym PR.

We’re running in circles now and it’s becoming dull.

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Broken record…

What about any of the other Powerlifting federations?

It doesn’t matter what the competitons think lol, athletes existed before competitions.

besides, competitions question each other’s legitimacy all the time. What are you going to do when you find out the competition you were in was actually illegitimate?

I does not if I’m not interested in competing.

Powerlifting federations differ in their standards lol. What if the federation you competed in was illegitimate?

Imagine needing someone to stamp an identity on your forehead due to a competition. No individual agency whatsoever

But I don’t go claiming that my gym PBs would have anything to do with powerlifting results.

It doesn’t make them less valuable to me. But in terms of powerlifting they hold no value.