Why the mantra "get stronger to get bigger" is bad advice and how strength training infiltrated bodybuilding

According to who is a powerlifting meet legitimate? The IPF?

In whatever fed. you compete you’re a powerlifter. I compete with IPF rules.

They’re not comparable though.

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If you compete you’re a competitive powerlifter. If you don’t compete and use powerlifting methodology, you’re a noncompetitive powerlifter. Just like I’m not beholden to barbells as a bodybuilder, powerlifters aren’t beholden to judges.

The only reason powerlifters go before judges is because they choose to be beholden to them.

Yep… we used it at my High school back in the day.

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I can speak for 1975. I was already doing bench press and squats, but I started deadlifts because I would need to do deadlifts in the Powerlifting meet that I was going to do.

So when you were at high school, the whole football team were powerlifters then. Must have been a pretty strong team. :rofl:

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Program used powercleans no deadlift.

Like this has never happened. How would you account for all the different Powerlifting federations?

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Yep which s also something Jim discusses in his writings. But you actually have to have read them to understand that.

If powerlifting judges say you must be beholden to them in order to be a powerlifter and a powerlifter argues that they don’t need to be beholden to the judges, who is right?

Yeah. Amounf of powerlifters in the world skyrocketed. In my gym there trains professional basketball players, they use strength training methodology. I need to start calling them powerlifter-basketballists.

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:rofl:

Made me laugh so hard. Thanks

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Sadly …. I cant read nor write.

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Choosing to be beholden to powerlifting judges to identify as a powerlifter is a decision someone makes to limit themselves. If we all thought that way, we would have no faith in our training methodologies.

Exactly — and that’s the point. If we define who is a powerlifter based solely on which federation or judge you obey, we get an arbitrary and inconsistent standard. There are dozens of federations, each with slightly different rules, and even unsanctioned meets exist. The only consistent, objective criterion is methodology

It’s called competing.

The basketball players limit themselves by playing in matches and rules while judged. Unless you’re a non-competitive basketball player and you only play without judges or competition.

I am really loving the AI responses in this thread. What ever program you use is really doing a great job. Shame it hasn’t actually read 531 or have a clue what its about.

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Ok, which competition is legitimate? They’re not all the same as I mentioned above

Yeah. I’m so happy that I can call these basketball players as my powerlifter brothers now on.

Because thats what arnold and franco did when they first started out…the basics