Why the ABB Crowd Hates Bush

Interesting article from Professor Victor Davis Hanson analyzing why there is such a visceral hatred of Bush from some of those on the left. I’m curious what some of you in the “Anyone But Bush” crowd think of this reasoning?

Personally, I think there’s something to it, but I also think that there’s huge elephant in the room missing from the analysis: namely, the idea to which many fiercely cling that Bush “stole” the election in 2000. I think that has a lot to do with the level of rancor coming from the left. Also, I think a lot of real liberals felt ignored by Clinton, who didn’t really enact a whole lot of liberal policies, and there is displaced anger toward Bush from that (as Gore was sounding much more liberal).

Anyway, here’s Prof. Hanson:

http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson200408130813.asp

August 13, 2004, 8:13 a.m.
On Loathing Bush
It?s not about what he does.

For now Americans seem to be split 50-50 over the reelection of George W. Bush. Such a hotly contested election is hardly new. We saw races just as close in 1960, 1968, and 1976. Had Ross Perot not run in 1992 - and perhaps even in 1996 - Bill Clinton (who didn’t receive a 50 percent majority in either of his presidential races) may well have found himself in the same predicament as Gore did in Florida, 2000 - struggling to win the Electoral College while losing the popular vote to George Bush Sr.

There are a number of issues in this contest on which reasonable people can differ. If one is out of work or without comprehensive health insurance, then the economy is rocky, to be measured not by historically low unemployment figures but by the number of actual jobs lost or gained. For others more fortunate, by any fair measure of housing, transportation, or consumer goods, the United States has achieved a standard of living well beyond even that of Europe.

One can argue that the post-bellum reconstruction of Iraq was unforeseeably messy and fouled-up. Or, one can argue that it’s striking that after a mere three years the United States has liberated 50 million and implemented democratic reform in place of what were the two most fascistic governments in the world - all without another 9/11 mass murder.

Furthermore, our troubles with Europe can be seen as either provoking tried and tested friends or lancing a boil that was growing for years as a result of our different histories, the end of the Cold War, and the utopianism of the EU. We could all disagree further about education, illegal immigration, energy policy, taxation, and a host of other issues.

But what is not explicable in terms of rational disagreement is the Left’s pathological hatred of George W. Bush. It transcends all contention over the issues, the Democratic hurt over the Florida elections, and even the animus once shown Bill Clinton by the activist Right. From where does this near-religious anger arise and what does it portend?

Let’s start with the admission that much of the invective is irrational, fueled by emotion rather than reason. Thus the black leadership uses slurs such as “Taliban” and “Confederacy” against Bush, even though no other president has selected an African-American secretary of State and national-security adviser or pledged so many billions for AIDS relief in Africa. Liberals talk of social programs starved, but domestic spending under Bush increased at annual rates greater than during any Democratic administration in recent history. Just read howls of conservatives who worry about Bush’s Great Society-like programs.

On foreign policy, Kerry rips Bush apart - but can’t say whether he would have gone into Afghanistan and Iraq and is unable to specify how he would have gotten pacifistic Europeans on board. It is common to caricature Ashcroft as some Seven Days in May insurrectionist, bent on overthrowing the Constitution; but given the almost daily arrests of terror suspects in the United States, Kerry cannot tell us how exactly the Patriot Act has eroded our freedoms, much less why it is unnecessary in hunting down potential mass murderers.

What is it about Bush that elicits such hatred, that galvanizes even usually mindless rock stars, self-indulgent Hollywood actors, lethargic ex-presidents and vice presidents, and hypocritical Democratic senators to embrace such canonical fury? Why was the Left content to make fun of Ford’s clumsiness, Reagan’s forgetfulness, and George Sr.'s preppiness, but now calls George W. a Nazi and worse still? Why are there forthcoming novels and plays that discuss the assassination of George W. Bush? Why did we not get a Reaganwacked, a Reaganworld, a Lies of Ronald Reagan - a similar vast industry of paperback pulp equating Reagan with evil incarnate?

THE SOUTHERN ALBATROSS
Bush is a southerner, with a drawl - but not one who is either liberal or Democratic. We forget just how rare that is.

In fact, we have not seen a twanged president or vice president who was conservative in over a half-century. The previous rule? A Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Lloyd Bentsen, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, or John Edwards could serve or run for executive national office only on a simple triangulating premise - they offered moderate and regional balance to Yankee liberalism and yet did not in the slightest scare the rest of the country with images of a redneck South.

Any unrepentant conservatives from the south - former Democrats like a John Connolly or a Phil Graham - who sought the presidency quickly faded. Mr. Bush is unusual - an adopted Texan who reflects the attitudes and beliefs of most Southerners, and who counts on real political affinity rather than mere regional loyalty for support south of the Mason-Dixon Line. Nixon-Lodge, Goldwater-Miller, Nixon-Agnew, Ford-Dole, Reagan-Bush, Bush-Quayle, Dole-Kemp, Bush-Cheney - not a Southern conservative Republican to be found on any ticket, a trend that surely keeps Karl Rove’s wheels spinning each night.

For the Left, Mr. Bush is automatically under a cloud of suspicion; he is an unapologetic twanger who likes guns, barbeques, NASCAR, “the ranch,” and pick-up trucks. It matters little that George Bush’s record on classical civil-rights issues is impeccable, without a hint of the deplorable racism of a younger Senator Byrd, a Lyndon Johnson, or an Al Gore Sr. Every statement Bush drawls out about religion, affirmative action, or abortion is forever suspect - sort of what would happen should a Germanic-sounding Arnold Schwarzenegger quite rightly lecture Californians about the need for greater order, efficiency, cohesiveness, and the willpower to regain pride and purpose. Necessary, yes - but for some, given his accent, Wagnerian and spooky all the same.

BIBLE THUMPING
Similarly, Bush’s Christianity seems evangelical and literal. It comes across as disturbing to liberals of the country who see religion as a mere social formality at best, useful for weddings and funerals, perhaps comforting at Christmas and Easter of course, but otherwise a potential threat to the full expression of lifestyle “choices.”

American politicos like their candidates to be Episcopalian, Unitarian, or Congregationalist, perhaps even mainstream but quiet Methodists or Presbyterians. Baptists of the southern flavor, or anything not found in a New England township, reflect a real belief in the literalness of the Bible - primordial ideas that religion is not a social necessity but a fire-and-brimstone path to eternal salvation.

Jimmy Carter came closest to the edge with his talk of being born again. Yet his liberalism, his close friendship with Walter Mondale, and his talk of American pathology convinced the Left that he was just a southern version of a Daniel Berrigan or William Sloan Coffin - a little weird, perhaps, but useful all the same in drawing the powers of Christianity into the liberal crusade. In contrast, if Bush evokes the name of God one one-thousandth as often as did Abraham Lincoln or Reverend Jackson, he is dismissed as an unhinged zealot eager to incite a Hundred Years’ War with the Muslims.

MR. MANICHEAN
Critics accuse Mr. Bush of Manichaeism - of tough, black-and-white talk about good and evil. They are right. He certainly sounds different from the usual suburban moralist, especially in an age of irony, skepticism, and cynicism. Our era is dominated by pundits, professors, and journalists to whom hip nuance is everything. The Time magazine style of reporting starts off with Theme A, then reverses course half-way through with counterargument B, only to conclude with Theme A lite.

I like David Letterman and Jon Stewart, but like most Americans I can never really tell when or whether they are ever sincere. Not long ago a Frenchman explained to me why he hates Bush, who “thinks linearly” and has no sense of the “problematique.” Face it: We are now an information society, with a premium on talk, not action. To suggest that one need not be 100 percent certain - but perhaps only 60 percent certain - to act is deeply disturbing. And when you add lingo like “bring 'em on,” the caricature that Bush belongs on the main street of Gunsmoke rather than in Sex in the City or The West Wing is only strengthened.

Go back to the early 1960s and listen to the accents on shows like Have Gun Will Travel and GE Playhouse and contrast those characters’ speech with today’s television diction: The former are square, one-dimensional, blunt - almost flat and Midwestern in tone - the latter speak nasally, their speech drawn out and full of ironic, sarcastic under-the-breath asides, often striving to reflect sophisticated uncertainty, if not camp.

We not only have an evangelical Christian as president in the age or irony, but one who really makes it sound like we have the ability to make choices that are more right than wrong and then act on them. In a world in which our elites can give 1,000 reasons for inaction and not one for resolution, Mr. Bush seems precipitous, unnuanced, one-dimensional, and oh-so-retro.

RENEGADE ARISTOCRAT
George Bush is a traitor of the most frightening sort to his class: He is not an ideological tribune like Roosevelt or Kennedy, but someone far worse, who seems to dislike the entire baggage of sophisticated, highbrow society. An Eastern blueblood who initially did all the right things - Prep School, the Ivy league, Skull and Bones - he then, accent and all, not only went back to rural Texas, but embraced a popular culture antithetical to the preppie, wonkish, aristocratic world of the East Coast elite.

So Bush suffers additional invective not accorded his father, whose cadre of Wall Street stockbrokers, Council on Foreign Relations pin-stripers, and State Department sober and judicious insiders could assure the liberal establishment that, well, here was a man like us who believed in noblesse oblige, sent his kids to our schools, and simply had a smidgeon less compassion for the down-trodden.

But W.? His wife is pure Texas: a closet smoker from a family that does not have lots of money or status - not a Kennedy or Kerry spouse replete with loot, connections, and European sophistication. Unlike Teresa, Hillary, or Tipper, Laura has no angst about her own career; she doesn’t give sermons about super-womaning as wife, mother, and activist exec. Worse still, Laura Bush is happy, proud, and likes who and what she is.

We don’t hear that the Bush twins are like the Kerry offspring at Harvard Med, or slashing through Stanford Chelsea-style, or even like the Gore girls, lecturing the faithful on their father’s liberalism. Somehow the purportedly non-New York Times reading, non-NPR-listening, non-Guggenheim-visiting George W. Bush veered off onto the wrong path, and his recalcitrance seems to drive his aristocratic rivals nuts. His antipathy, after all, is one of choice, not fueled by an outsider’s envy or prior poverty.

“Pushy” neocons - not Shimon Peres groupies - advise him on Israel. Bush talks to confident black entrepreneurs, not the elite CEOs of the race industry. He is at home more with ministers in polyester than with elbow-patched, turtle-necked scholars of religion. So it is not just what Bush does, but how he does it that matters so much to the exasperated, out-of-the-loop op-ed boards, Malibu filmmakers, elite newsrooms, faculty lounges, and foundation panels.

In short, the Left hates George W. Bush for who he is rather than what he does. Southern conservatism, evangelical Christianity, a black-and-white worldview, and a wealthy man’s disdain for elite culture - none by itself earns hatred, of course, but each is a force multiplier of the other and so helps explain the evolution of disagreement into pathological venom.

September 11 cooled the furor of these aristocratic critics, but Iraq re-ignited it. Not voting for George Bush is, of course understandable and millions in fact will do precisely that. But for those haters who demonize the man, their knee-jerk disgust tells us far more about their own shallow characters than it does anything about our wartime president.

And there is a great danger in all these manifestations of pure hatred. We are in a war. And in these tumultuous days, the Left’s unhinged odium will resonate with and embolden not only our enemies abroad, but also the deranged, dangerous folk here at home.

BB,

You have asked them to reveal their true motivations; they will not do it here.

However, you can get some insight from their reactions to certain subjects. For example, on this forum you may have noticed how particularly rabid guys like Lumby and Elk get when the subject of evangelical christianity comes up.

Yep Mr.Chen…when you rip the mask off…it boils down to The Prez’s admission that he believes in Jesus Christ. The left (entertainment left as well as non entertainment) is secular and can’t stand it(his admission).

They may say something else, but this IS the bottom line.

BB, excellent article, thanks for posting it!

While President Bush is hated more than Ronald Reagen was, I vivedly recall the hatred toward Reagen as being very real.

The left also called Reagen stupid and narrow minded as he would hold fast to his core beliefs. Does any of this sound familiar? They lost that election too!

One of the lefts favorite tools of war is hatred via name calling and denouncing the person, rather than the issue. It’s a shame as this is actually more of a recent phenomenon. Liberalism did not used to be like this. In fact, as far back as the late fifties the optimistic President Dwight Eisenhower described himself as a “progressive liberal.” Nothing wrong with that at the time. Now the word liberal is tainted and somehow dirty because of the negativity that is attatched to it.

Liberalism used to stand for an open mindedness. Most ideas, if not embraced, were at least entertained. Liberalism was all about ideas. It’s sad to see how low the liberals of sunk. Name calling, the Moore film, pure hatred. And you can never win with hatred. You lose elections this way. Oh you might make yourself feel good, but in the long run the majority of the people in this country still want optimism mixed with their politics!

In November the liberals will find this out, the hard way!

There are a number of reasons to despise the guy that for me, seem more personal than political. For example, his old man also ran up huge deficits, destroyed the environment and the economy, and sucked up to the Kenneth Lay types of the world. But the elder Bush had some balls, and didn’t have his millions handed to him. I think the same could be said for Reagan.

[quote]tntudor wrote:
There are a number of reasons to despise the guy that for me, seem more personal than political. For example, his old man also ran up huge deficits, destroyed the environment and the economy, and sucked up to the Kenneth Lay types of the world. But the elder Bush had some balls, and didn’t have his millions handed to him. I think the same could be said for Reagan.

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Wow. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Since you’ve given me no reason to backup anything I say with fact (you don’t oblige us, so why should we oblige you), I’ll say this. A horrific attack on American soil, Terrorism, and a failing budget from the Clinton administration drove up the deficit. According the the EPA, the environmental deterioration has increased at a rate the same and less than that of your precious Clinton administration. President Bush has no interest in Keneth Lay types. Lay is a criminal, and the President does not have time for that nonsense. While President Clinton gave pardon to multiple criminals before he left office.

[quote]PtrDR wrote:
Yep Mr.Chen…when you rip the mask off…it boils down to The Prez’s admission that he believes in Jesus Christ. The left (entertainment left as well as non entertainment) is secular and can’t stand it(his admission).

They may say something else, but this IS the bottom line.[/quote]

Why is faith in Jesus Christ so great and important? I just don’t get it.

I guess religion gives you a set of values and morals, but do you really need a religion to do that?

The whole thing just seems very righteous to me, for lack of a better word. Someone give me their thoughts. Why do you believe? Why is it important? Am I going to hell for not believing (which, by the way, I do not believe in hell)? Are you tolerant and respectful of others religions, no matter how ridiculous they might seem?

Maybe I’m asking for a lot of answers here, but I just don’t get it.

Jesus is not the answer for everyone, it certainly isn’t for me. That being said, it certainly is for a very many people one who happens to be the president. I guess the way I look at it is I don’t believe in organized religion period. I actually think it is not good for human beings, and that we will eventually outgrow the need for it. But in this time and place many people still cling to it and it has some real positive aspects. Regardless not one time have I ever felt that george w bush was pushing his values as a christian on me. Everyone who is crying about is is just being a baby.

Vegita ~ Prince of all Sayajins

What has Jesus Christ done for Bush?

Christianity is the ultimate polarizer. It’s Good v. Evil, Black v. White, Bush v. The World. Because he is a devout Christian, he believes that what HE thinks is right, whomever disagrees is wrong. Because he has “the spirit” in him, he is thus ordained by the Divine Authority to do as he feels.

Want to talk issues? Let’s talk issues. I am by no means an expert but there are some things I DO know.

Before the War we were told Osama Bin Laden was the man in charge. We didnt find Osama. We were then told that it was Saddam who harbored terrorists and WMDs…both lies. Bush is no longer concerned about Bin Laden, the LEADER OF AL-QUEADA, THE ORGANIZATION WHICH WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11.

Throughout his presidency jobs have been shipped overseas, the QUALITY of jobs in the US suck, WAGES suck, there is no push for science or the environment, American soldiers are dying in a war which had no EXIT strategy, and we have NO RESPECT from the other world powers.

Those are the issues.

[quote]oboffill wrote:
What has Jesus Christ done for Bush?

Christianity is the ultimate polarizer. It’s Good v. Evil, Black v. White, Bush v. The World. Because he is a devout Christian, he believes that what HE thinks is right, whomever disagrees is wrong. Because he has “the spirit” in him, he is thus ordained by the Divine Authority to do as he feels.

Want to talk issues? Let’s talk issues. I am by no means an expert but there are some things I DO know.

Before the War we were told Osama Bin Laden was the man in charge. We didnt find Osama. We were then told that it was Saddam who harbored terrorists and WMDs…both lies. Bush is no longer concerned about Bin Laden, the LEADER OF AL-QUEADA, THE ORGANIZATION WHICH WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11.

Throughout his presidency jobs have been shipped overseas, the QUALITY of jobs in the US suck, WAGES suck, there is no push for science or the environment, American soldiers are dying in a war which had no EXIT strategy, and we have NO RESPECT from the other world powers.

Those are the issues.
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While those may be your issues, where are the FACTS? You got nothing to backup your personal “issues” list. Show some proof instead of just repeating the usual liberal garbage that is passed around on this forum and in mainstream media.

BB - I would have to disagree with Hansen on several points.
1)I sincerely doubt anyone on the left gives a damn about his accent, and I feel this was a ploy by the author to prime distaste for the left among “Red-staters”.
2)Moreover, I doubt that most of us care about his love of Jesus - although I personally find it irksome that those who claim to love Jesus the most seem most oblivious to his message of social progressivism.
3)Finally, I think that the author glosses over some well-documented and glaring errors in foreign policy and homeland security that are the crux of most of the anti-Bush sentiment. Remember, only a year ago the president looked invincible in this election. It wasn’t until the reconstruction of Iraq was botched, his rationale for war undermined, and his pre-9/11 performance questioned that public opinion really began to mobilize against him.

Articles like these attempt to paint the left as irrational and partisan - territory generally monopolized by the right wing - and gloss over the serious flaws in Bush’s presidency.

[quote]DrS wrote:
3)Finally, I think that the author glosses over some well-documented and glaring errors in foreign policy and homeland security that are the crux of most of the anti-Bush sentiment.[/quote]

Some well-documented and glaring errors? Show me where you found this documentation. Michael Moore’s recent movie script doesn’t count. Show me any documentation, aside from an op-ed piece, that specifically backs up your claim. Show me just one fact bearing document. Please.

Well, in my opinion the facts are pretty well known as far as the religion stuff goes. First of all, how many times have we heard “Jesus W. Christ” taking the Almighty’s name in vain? He’s passing himself off to the people as God’s personal messenger. Check out these quotes:

“I could not be the governor if I did not believe in a devine plan that supercedes all human plans.”

“I believe God wants me to be the president.”

And this one is really cool:

“I feel the comfort and the power of knowing that literally millions of Americans I’m never going to meet… say my name to the Almighty every day and ask him to help me… My friend, Jiang Zemin in China, has about a billion and a half folks, and I don?t think he can say that. And my friend, Vladimir Putin, I like him, but he can’t say that.”

Geez, how does he know this? Does he have a 1-800-DIAL-GOD -hotline?

This guy keeps saying that he’s “acting on God’s behalf”. Bush Lite IS NOT SPEAKING FOR GOD NOR WAS HE SENT HERE BY GOD.

People who believe in Jesus Christ come across as self righteous???..wow…
Exactly oppostite it the case. As a believer in Jesus Christ…I stand on HIS righteousness!..NOT my own! Someone who does NOT depend on the righteousness of Christ is the one being SELF righteous; for in fact you are saying that you don’t NEED HIS righteousness…that YOU can do it on your own. There is nothing inheritently righteousness in me…its all from Christ.

Another irony of the “new liberalism.” Liberals used to think that it was good to promote freedom of religion. If someone spoke of their devote faith, be it Jewish, Christian, or whatever, the old liberal establishment would applaud. Being liberal at that point meant allowing various beliefs, even if they were not your own.

The new liberalism however dictates that you must be a God hater in order to lead. If you state that you believe in Jesus Christ then something must be wrong with you. “Are you weak minded?” President Bush stated plainly, on Larry King, that he is for freedom to worship as you see fit. He went on to say that “that is one of the great freedoms this country has.”

Not good enough for the new radical liberalism. Then again nothing this President says or does is good enough for these whackos!

Wow…how far the liberals have fallen. How very sad indeed.

[quote]PtrDR wrote:
People who believe in Jesus Christ come across as self righteous???..wow…
Exactly oppostite it the case. As a believer in Jesus Christ…I stand on HIS righteousness!..NOT my own! Someone who does NOT depend on the righteousness of Christ is the one being SELF righteous; for in fact you are saying that you don’t NEED HIS righteousness…that YOU can do it on your own. There is nothing inheritently righteousness in me…its all from Christ.[/quote]

I never said you or any Christian was righteous; I said the idea of religion seems righteous to me. I’m not trying to bash or put anyone down. I just simply and honestly don’t understand.

What is the difference between Santa Claus, The Boogey-Man, and Jesus Christ? Some people believe in these characters and some don’t. And why can’t I do it my own? Why do I need Jesus to help me? Are you being self-righteous for not asking for help from Thor and the gods of Valhalla.

Believe me, I am not trying to insult or offend anyone here. It just seems weak-minded to me that people need religion to tell give them a set of values, or to give them direction in life.

It seems that most religous people I know are born into their faith and just believe because that’s what they were taught and that’s what they have always done. I understand that that’s part of what strong faith is; to believe without needing proof, but how does that make you a better person?

T-Stag:

Great post - that’s why no one here will respond to it!

RSU

RSU, T-Stag,

If he keeps the pressure on terrorists and regimes that support terrorists, he can believe that the moon is made of cheese for all I care.

By the way, T-Stag, making fun of someone’s religious beliefs makes you look very, very small, petty, and vindictive.

Have a great day!!!

JeffR

Don’t blame Jesus for the actions of bad Christians.

The religious beliefs that cause polarization were the very things that Jesus taught against.

It’s ironic that fire and brimstone types claim to be Christian, because Jesus himself was not.

Jesus himself taught that a lot of religious doctrine and practices (like blood sacrifices) are uneccessary and turn people away from god. That’s why the preists at the temple got the romans to crucify him. Because he threatened their status. If Jesus were around today, I think some of our so called Christians would want to silence him again, for the very same reason.

[quote]JeffR wrote:
RSU, T-Stag,

If he keeps the pressure on terrorists and regimes that support terrorists, he can believe that the moon is made of cheese for all I care.

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Amen.

Of course, I’m not a Christian at all. I just want someone in office who believes we are right and they are wrong, and who is willing to do whatever is needed to defend us.