WHITE. POWER.
[quote]TD54 wrote:
[quote]ultralars wrote:
[quote]earthquake wrote:
Ohhhh your 16…
Okay[/quote]
Why? so because i am 16 i am suddenly stupid? i have actually watched quited a bit of documentaries, looked up stuff and read a bunch of stuff in a very good history magazine. [/quote]
No, I will hazard a guess that you have been fairly stupid right up until sixteen as well.
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
[quote]TD54 wrote:
[quote]ultralars wrote:
[quote]earthquake wrote:
Ohhhh your 16…
Okay[/quote]
Why? so because i am 16 i am suddenly stupid? i have actually watched quited a bit of documentaries, looked up stuff and read a bunch of stuff in a very good history magazine. [/quote]
No, I will hazard a guess that you have been fairly stupid right up until sixteen as well.[/quote]
Why do you say that?
Oh nvm I thought you were responding to me. Quotes are screwed up
[quote]TD54 wrote:
Oh nvm I thought you were responding to me. Quotes are screwed up[/quote]
Not too sure what happened there, but unless you are 16 and the best part of you dribbled down your fathers leg, then no need to panic TD54. 
Well since I haven’t watched “quited” a bit of documentaries and have made a particular point of never looking stuff up I am a bit slow on the uptake and have subsequently learnt a fair bit from the OP’s post.
For instance…
Apparently history was written by some guy called “victor” who is obviously important because it seems he frequently gets called “the victor”.
Now I may be as thick as a whale sandwhich but even I can see that this “victor” chappie has quite alot to answer for.
Am I right?
OP, if you’re 16 and so smart, do you think you may possibly get even smarter by 17, 18 etc. etc.?
If so, then best remain silent till much later.
And just getting angry and calling everyone stupid? That’s for 16 year-olds.
IF YOU GET OFFENDED BY EVERYTHING DISCUSSION STUFF LIKE THIS THEN PLEASE DO NOT READ IT
how is one supposed to know if one gets ‘offended by everything discussion stuff like this’ without reading it? assuming ‘everything discussion stuff’ makes sense, which i’m not totally sure it does. not exactly the best start to a winning thread… that being said, i’m happy to play along. a little.
History is written by the victor. Has never been truer than after the second world war, where again, the Germans are putt in a worse light than deserved.
is it that you think the Germans are put in a worse light than deserved or that others (e.g., the USA and Britain) are put in a better light than deserved? One could think that the USA and Britain had some similarly contemptible policies without condoning the policies of the Germans at all. eventually one learns that the significant majority of things in the world are a whole bunch more complex than the ‘good’ vs ‘bad’ dichotomy that was so appealing when one was like, 4.
It’s being said that attempts to perfect the human race was only executed in Nazi Germany, this is propaganda.
The fact of the matter is that USA and great Britain has tried to do the exact same thing.
Yes. That is true. I’m not sure that the facts are being hidden, however, for anyone who cares to learn about such stuff.
Advances were being made in behavioral genetics and intellectual communities around the world were very taken by the apparent strength of connection between genetics and morphology (physical characteristics) and behavior of animals. The connections were assumed to be similar in human beings (the role of physical and social environment was seriously underestimated) and some unfortunate social policies resulted. Intelligence is a prime example of this (there is a great literature on ‘the Bell Curve’ which ranks races for intelligence, the social policy of ‘hey lets not bother educating people of dumb races’ and also the undermining ‘gee, lack of educational opportunity seems to result in poor scores and the tests are racially biased anyway’ realization).
It isn’t exactly a secret that many other countries were thinking along similar lines. Hitler took things to an extreme, however, and as a result people started rethinking the application of behavioral genetics to social policy.
Nature / nurture debates continue… Most appreciate that it isn’t a simple ‘either / or’ issue instead it is more about working out the more specific contribution of each.
I mean c’mon… Why do you think the British sent the convicts to Australia? Because criminality was thought to be genetic and they had hopes of eliminating criminality in Britain by relocating the criminals. They learned that criminality isn’t caused by genetics so much as environmental factors, however. New criminals arose as fast as they could ship the old criminals off because of the working / living conditions of British urban environments. Aussies aren’t disposed to criminality more than other nationalities even though most European Aussies can trace their criminal ancestry.
Re: Master races. This is part of why there is so much current controversy over advances in genetics / fertility medicine. Would you like a boy baby or a girl baby? Blonde hair and blue eyes? Or how about just the absence of genetically heritable disease?
We have also learned that genetic diversity is good. We are all fit / successful enough from an evolutionary point of view to be here… There isn’t any such thing as fittest simplicitor - only fittest in a particular environment. the more genetically similar humans become (because we think there is one simplicitor ‘best’ way for humans to genetically be) the more we are in danger of our species becoming extinct given environmental change.
P.S. I do think it is cool that you are interested in this stuff
One more thing before I well and truly stop ranting…
This is part of why I find it so abhorrent that people think there are facts about the genetic value or worth of a potential partner. That some people are genetically superior to others. Firstly, how outwardly successful someone is depends significantly on the environment in which they are placed. Secondly, the combination of genes is what is passed on to the next generation. Most people do carry recessive genes for a whole host of genetic disorders. That only matters if your partner carries recessive genes for those same genetic disorders and that manifests as a disease in environmental conditions the offspring finds themselves in.
Of course genes for genetic disorders might be protective against certain environmental conditions (e.g., recessive gene for sickle cell anemia seems to be protective against malaria). Which is why we might want to be careful indeed about aiming to eradicate genes when we don’t quite know the direction environmental change is going to take or what positive effects those genes might confer on individuals in such environments.
So… There really isn’t any such thing as ‘the best partner’ simplicitor. Only ‘the best partner for me’. And we keep our fingers crossed about the environment.
\rant.
TL/DR
16 year olds are dumb.
People in their 20’s are even dumber.
Come back in 14 years when you are only moderately dumb.
[quote]ultralars wrote:
Why? so because i am 16 i am suddenly stupid? i have actually watched quited a bit of documentaries, looked up stuff and read a bunch of stuff in a very good history magazine. [/quote]
This is pure gold.
[quote]Nards wrote:
OP, if you’re 16 and so smart, do you think you may possibly get even smarter by 17, 18 etc. etc.?
If so, then best remain silent till much later.
And just getting angry and calling everyone stupid? That’s for 16 year-olds.[/quote]
When did i call everyone stupid? it’s almost funny how you guys make things up and then call me out on them. How about proving what i said wrong, if writing it suddenly makes me so stupid.
[quote]alexus wrote:
IF YOU GET OFFENDED BY EVERYTHING DISCUSSION STUFF LIKE THIS THEN PLEASE DO NOT READ IT
how is one supposed to know if one gets ‘offended by everything discussion stuff like this’ without reading it? assuming ‘everything discussion stuff’ makes sense, which i’m not totally sure it does. not exactly the best start to a winning thread… that being said, i’m happy to play along. a little.
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Wow, well i assumed you read the title of the thread before joining, apparntly that was too much to expect out of you guys
[quote]alexus wrote:
History is written by the victor. Has never been truer than after the second world war, where again, the Germans are putt in a worse light than deserved.
is it that you think the Germans are put in a worse light than deserved or that others (e.g., the USA and Britain) are put in a better light than deserved? One could think that the USA and Britain had some similarly contemptible policies without condoning the policies of the Germans at all. eventually one learns that the significant majority of things in the world are a whole bunch more complex than the ‘good’ vs ‘bad’ dichotomy that was so appealing when one was like,
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it is that i think that the allies are put in a better light than deserved. and thats exactly what i was saying if you would read the thread, it’s not as easy as a " good " side and a " bad " side, even tough the allies’s claimed it so.
[quote]alexus wrote:
Advances were being made in behavioral genetics and intellectual communities around the world were very taken by the apparent strength of connection between genetics and morphology (physical characteristics) and behavior of animals. The connections were assumed to be similar in human beings (the role of physical and social environment was seriously underestimated) and some unfortunate social policies resulted. Intelligence is a prime example of this (there is a great literature on ‘the Bell Curve’ which ranks races for intelligence, the social policy of ‘hey lets not bother educating people of dumb races’ and also the undermining ‘gee, lack of educational opportunity seems to result in poor scores and the tests are racially biased anyway’ realization).
It isn’t exactly a secret that many other countries were thinking along similar lines. Hitler took things to an extreme, however, and as a result people started rethinking the application of behavioral genetics to social policy.
Nature / nurture debates continue… Most appreciate that it isn’t a simple ‘either / or’ issue instead it is more about working out the more specific contribution of each.
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they even measured the shape of your skull to determine if your of the supposed “superior” race or not. it’s not as limited to IQ tests, although doing such a thing was proposed back then.
[quote]alexus wrote:
I mean c’mon… Why do you think the British sent the convicts to Australia? Because criminality was thought to be genetic and they had hopes of eliminating criminality in Britain by relocating the criminals. They learned that criminality isn’t caused by genetics so much as environmental factors, however. New criminals arose as fast as they could ship the old criminals off because of the working / living conditions of British urban environments. Aussies aren’t disposed to criminality more than other nationalities even though most European Aussies can trace their criminal ancestry.
P.S. I do think it is cool that you are interested in this stuff :-)[/quote]
Yeah thanks, but what your writing isn’t the case, the British simply sent convicts to austria to populate this newly found continent, and to bring the recourse back to Britain. what your writing makes no sense if you think about it for more than 5 minutes.
and to that other stuff you wrote, i don’t think you understand how much genetics really mean, by genetically modifying something, you could make whatever you want, there is no limit, you could a flying pig if you wanted to. which means genetics = EVERYTHING and good genetics defiantly means a superior person.
Wow, and i tough i would start an discussion on here that would voice other opinions about such topics like this than my own. Which would ultimately lead to me walking out of this with new knowledge on the subject. but no, i am just getting flamed like hell.
This thread is amazing.
ultralars No way am I getting caught up in some long, drawn-out argument with you. I may ‘waste my time’ here by joining in on jokes and adding witty comments, but I’m not going down that road where pages and pages of long posts get us nowhere. I’m not some angry teenager you know.
stay in school
And whoa idiot! You called Pimpbot5000 incredibly stupid on the first page!
This is likely to be my first post here (I cannot remember) but if you can’t spy the difference between the concepts of killing a race and killing a perceived weakness, you best…be sterelized?