Why Obama Won

[quote]Mick28 wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]Mick28 wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]Mick28 wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

The problem doesn’t lie with him, it’s the rest of the forum. Most places when someone clearly gets shown as a hypocrite again and again he would be routinely laughed at. Here you have people coming to his defense, and that’s when you realize it’s too far gone. Don’t get me wrong you had a few people say stuff about him, but when other people start to defend obvious shit like that you realize it’s pointless. It’s not about thick skin it’s about a waste of time. When you have people backing up such an obvious display of lack of logic you literally have no reason to argue. I’ve argued with plenty of people who think different than me, but they do it in a logical manner in places where reason is applauded.

Of course it sent him into a tizzy pointing out how full of shit he was on the national debt so he tore into me and called me a stalker over and over again. Then I showed how full of shit he was again and another fit was thrown. This isn’t the issue, the issue is HIM being shown as full of shit was routinely ignored while his personal attacks were validated by other members. It’s the mob type mentality that turns me off and makes me realize most people on this place aren’t actually interested in discussion they are interested in having their bias confirmed and will take the back of a prick who thinks like they do.

So yeah, maybe that is what he set out to do, I don’t know. I proved him full of shit multiple times and then got called a stalker for it. He had his little team come to his defense and I realized you know what I post other places where you can actually discuss stuff and get somewhere. I’m not convinced you can do that here and so I’m outty. Best of luck, you’re fighting a losing battle. You may prove him wrong on all that stuff over and over, but he’ll just ignore it, attack you, and then people will come to his defense. Not worth it. [/quote]

I read a few of those posts and it seems like you’re a legend in your own mind, it didn’t go down like that. you showed up on this forum talking shit like your brother the retarded guy (or is dat you too?). And when you get it back you whine like a little girl. I been in and out of this forum a few years myself and I learned plenty from Zeb, Max, Thunder, Push, Smachine and the rest of them. So fuck off if you don’t like it around here cry baby. [/quote]

Talking shit? What the fuck are you smoking? Go look at the national debt thread. I had serious posts and called Zeb out as the cheerleader he is. HE didn’t respond to that, he started personally attacking me. He didn’t have ANYTHING to say to the argument, he made it all about the arguer. Same fucking thing in this thread. I wasn’t attacking him, I was attacking the argument. And he started talking shit on me. Then you get in with your little boyfriend and take his side without even knowing what the fuck was going on. The truth might sting a little bit because I called you part of the problem, but the fact remains. If that hurts your little feelings I don’t know what to tell you. Why don’t you go look at the national debt thread and see who started the “shit talking.”

I’m not a legend in my own mind, read the fucking thread. He looked like a complete clown and started going after me because he didn’t have an argument. That type of shit should be called out left right and center if you ever want to have a decent level of discourse. It wasn’t called out, ass clowns like yourself backed it up without reading anything.
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All you do around here is talk shit. You had like 4 posts in a row where you were taunting people right here in this thread and someone told you to shut the fuck up. What is your problem man? Just post on a thread if you got something to say and forget this little personal drama you have going with people. Check your estrogen levels dude because you act like a girl.[/quote]

Dude save it. You came into this thread and defended Zeb for the same stuff you’re saying bothers you. All I did was say you were wrong and he was the problem. You didn’t call him out for starting the personal drama (again go back and read and see that it wasn’t me), you called me OUT.

Now why is that is all I’m asking. All I’ve done is post on threads and get called out for it and personally attacked by one forum member (Zeb). You backed him up without knowing the situation or reading it. Which is why I said the mob mentality makes the problem worse.

You made a mistake, not really that big a deal man. You were wrong, just admit it and quit trying to dodge the fact by attacking me. That’s the problem and it’s exactly what Zeb does post by post, not someone you want to emulate Mick. [/quote]

I don’t see anyone else crying like a little baby, just you. Wha boo hoo this poster called me names. I don’t want to play here anymore you people are mean. You fuckin drama queen, there’s chics out there with bigger nuggets than you. Estrogen flows through your veins bitch!

LMAO![/quote]

Sweet action. You get called out as wrong and instead of acknowledging that it’s more personal attacks. You guys are hilarious. It doesn’t matter what you say and what gets thrown in your face you’ll just come back with your natural line of defense. “Durr, you’re like uhmm, a chick dude! Don’t argue with me cause uhmm, you’re like a girl man! My posts don’t look bad when you point out I’m wrong cause uhmm, you’re a girl!”

Good God it’s like kindergarten trying to talk to some of you. What is the point of discussing things when this is the level of reason you’re at? I put in my actual post quit dodging the fact and attacking me, but NAH, you got nothing else so you fall back. Hell you’re not even trying to not be predictable. I even said you’d ignore my post and attack me and bam, you follow suit like a programmed robot.

What will it be in reply? Doo doo head? Big time nancy girl? Deflect and attack, deflect and attack! It’s like the cheer for people who can’t use logic.

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Estrogen flows through your veins bitch!

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I’m glad to see that you finally got your own E2 issues sorted after posting about it in the TRT forum last year.

Hey why don’t we all get back on track and talk about why Obama won as my thread title states.

I welcome all opinions as long as those opinions stick to the topic.

Thanks.

I ask the mod’s to give me a hand steering this thread back on course.

Thanks in advance,

Zeb

(If anyone wants to attack me personally he can begin a new thread if he feels a need to)

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Severiano wrote:<<< The Church, by that you mean your congregation >>>[/quote]No. That is exactly what I do not mean. Before I go further can I ask if you read my whole post?
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Yep. You basically said because Obama got elected, the Church died, and that you understand people will think you are a religious loon for believing such.

I was trying to tell you that I too found the Church wasn’t right for me, and that it isn’t the end of the world, or the United States, or the Church. The Church is going to be there, in years to come… Just look at it’s history, the demographics are going to change big time, it’s not going to be a super capitalistic and ostentatious church that looks out only for Western and European powers… Because it’s majority isn’t going to be comprised of that base, even here in the states it’s something like 30 years until Latino’s become the majority of Catholics. So, the base is going to be the poor and needy again like it was during the time of Jesus. Interesting isn’t it? I dunno, I find it a little ironic that the Church will be dominated by groups it once oppressed.

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Hey why don’t we all get back on track and talk about why Obama won as my thread title states.

I welcome all opinions as long as those opinions stick to the topic.

Thanks.

I ask the mod’s to give me a hand steering this thread back on course.

Thanks in advance,

Zeb

(If anyone wants to attack me personally he can begin a new thread if he feels a need to)

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Obama won because he put together a coalition of tribes, each with their own little agenda. It worked. Now the depression will continue, and we will suffer for him winning.

That, plus he might be the Anti-Christ.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Lord Menstrual,

I have no doubt you would get a kick out of putting your hand in my ass, there is no doubt that it wouldn’t be the first, nor the last time you fisted a man. But I would have to warn you, that if you tried, by the time I was done with you, you would have an apron on cooking me dinner, scrubbin’ my drawers, my little tenderoni.

Dood, you’re lifts are not that impressive. Other than your deadlift, I was eve to eye with you by the time I was 19 yrs old, natural too, not pre-menstrual as you come off. I also was able to move rather well, with a 27 inch vertical leap, running a 40-yr dash in 4.7 seconds while weighing 272 lbs standing 6’1.

I am sure that this works wonders with the peons in your gym, who probably hang on your every word, but in my world you would not make it homie.

[quote]ZEB wrote:
and talk about why Obama won

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The power of class warfare is unmatched.

Obama had a hell of a ground game. My inlaws both knocked on doors for him (they live in Nevada) and they said there were volunteers all over the country doing this. And they don’t pay attention to the deficit and they don’t pay attention to our eroding rights and they don’t pay attention to our increasing drone war. They just know that he’s not a Republican because they view Republicans as elitist assholes.

The Reps need to get a ground game and they need to connect to everyman again.

james


A nation whose voters worry more about condoms and the rights of illegal aliens (LOL!) is just plain doomed to suffer. We must and will suffer for our choices. We are guilty.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I have a question for EVERYONE here…

Where did this thread turn into a melee ?

I don’t see the usual constructive dialogue, or even the mild shit-talkin’ discourse I have seen in the past ?

This thread has turned into uncontrolled fuckery.[/quote]

I tink it cuz Lord Mensa not doing TRT dose like Lord Mensa claim. I tink Lord Mensa do bout 1000 mg/wk Masteron + plus copious amount of trenbolone.

Trenbolone + masterone + testosterone make Lord Mensa bitchy dood. Very bitchy dood.[/quote]

haha yeah and how is that cycle you were researching “for a friend” working for “him”? Did “he” make some pretty good gains? Looks like his deadlift went up in a hurry LOL
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I know me never research for friend. Your trenbolone must mess with memory of you.[/quote]

That’s so weird

There must have been another guy named pushharder with the exact same avatar as you here back int he day:

I hope your “friend” found what he was looking for

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

Dood, you’re lifts are not that impressive. Other than your deadlift, I was eve to eye with you by the time I was 19 yrs old, natural too, not pre-menstrual as you come off. I also was able to move rather well, with a 27 inch vertical leap, running a 40-yr dash in 4.7 seconds while weighing 272 lbs standing 6’1.

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LOL when the FUCK did I claim that my lifts were impressive? is this more of your bubble-life fantasy?

I just stated the truth, and I have worked damn hard to get where I am and am progressing at the rate of about 60 pounds per competition. Keep in mind these are not your fucking brotard gym lifts, they are done in competitoin, with actual judges and people to verify they actually happened.

Those were some pretty good lifts for a 19 year old. I’m sure you don’t have them on video or anything to verify, but hey, I am willing to take your word for it. Find it a little weird though that you have avoided that thread like hte fucking plague LOL. A bit of a downhill slide since your glory years are we?

And a 27 inch vertical and 4.7 40? Meh…Not bad, I guess…I definitely wouldn’t have typed them here to prove a point though LOL.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
and talk about why Obama won

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The power of class warfare is unmatched. [/quote]

Would any other past president have gotten a pass for doing this (endorsing class warfare ) ?

Is it just me or is this thread getting really creepy?

[quote]Mick28 wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Estrogen flows through your veins bitch!

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I’m glad to see that you finally got your own E2 issues sorted after posting about it in the TRT forum last year.[/quote]

Never been on that thread dip shit. That makes you a liar. Then again we already knew that when you said you were a member of mensa. Fate has brought you and H together two little bitches right here on t nation. Now go give H a hug goodnight and don’t forget to tuck him in.[/quote]

LOL it is so funny that in this day and age, with the internet so readily accessible and searchable, guys like you would still try to hope nobody calls them on their bullshit.

Here are the links to your two threads in that forum (one of which you got all butthurt with me about for asking you to put lab ranges in your post LOL). You then went back and edited out all your actual information, of which I distincitly remember having high E2 was a major symptom (I even commented on it in a follow-on post before you back tracked).

So funny

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_trt/harvard_study_more_test_is_better_healthier?id=2499344&pageNo=3

Are you sure you have gotten your E2 sorted? You may need to UTD (Up The Dose).

[quote]Mick28 wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]Mick28 wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Estrogen flows through your veins bitch!

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I’m glad to see that you finally got your own E2 issues sorted after posting about it in the TRT forum last year.[/quote]

Never been on that thread dip shit. That makes you a liar. Then again we already knew that when you said you were a member of mensa. Fate has brought you and H together two little bitches right here on t nation. Now go give H a hug goodnight and don’t forget to tuck him in.[/quote]

LOL it is so funny that in this day and age, with the internet so readily accessible and searchable, guys like you would still try to hope nobody calls them on their bullshit.

Here are the links to your two threads in that forum (one of which you got all butthurt with me about for asking you to put lab ranges in your post LOL). You then went back and edited out all your actual information, of which I distincitly remember having high E2 was a major symptom (I even commented on it in a follow-on post before you back tracked).

So funny

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_trt/harvard_study_more_test_is_better_healthier?id=2499344&pageNo=3

Are you sure you have gotten your E2 sorted? You may need to UTD (Up The Dose).[/quote]

LOL, you’re a lying sack of shit I neevr once talked about E2 or anything even close. I was asking about my standard blood work when you acted like an asshole and i left the thread. I didn’t want to turn that thread into what you and your love toy H factor have turned this one into.

You’re no more a member of mensa than your little butt buddy. And you’re the one messing with your hormones not me fatty. Look in the mirror dirt bag.

“Oh I claim to lift big weights and then I disrupt threads I’m VT an Internet tough guy”

Stupid Punk.

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Oh, so you’ve gone from “Ive never been in that thread” to “I never said THAT in that thread” LOL…yeah man, we believe you. I hope you got everything sorted out. Though I am doubtful!

Disrupting threads? LOL You are the one coming in playing the white knight for Zeb LOL…so funny…