Why Obama Won

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

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[quote]treco wrote:
As I told my wife last night, it is not a single election that worries me about this country - but the fact that the society showed its’ brokenness by sending this candidate back in for 4 more years.
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In my opinion Romney showed evidence of a more broken candidate [/quote]

Very good point pittski. He talked too much about small things. Called the other guy a thief, murderer and tax cheat. He then launched a fake war on women against him.

Oh wait…[/quote]

as always Zeb your views are limited and biased
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And as usual you speak in general terms because you are unable to refute the above.
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You are entitled to your narrow opinion of the world
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Once again you cannot refute the fact that Obama did exactly what I’ve claimed. So, you cling to the general.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]treco wrote:
As I told my wife last night, it is not a single election that worries me about this country - but the fact that the society showed its’ brokenness by sending this candidate back in for 4 more years.
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In my opinion Romney showed evidence of a more broken candidate [/quote]

Very good point pittski. He talked too much about small things. Called the other guy a thief, murderer and tax cheat. He then launched a fake war on women against him.

Oh wait…[/quote]

as always Zeb your views are limited and biased
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And as usual you speak in general terms because you are unable to refute the above.
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You are entitled to your narrow opinion of the world
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Once again you cannot refute the fact that Obama did exactly what I’ve claimed. So, you cling to the general.

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What is to refute ?

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

hahahahahha yeah enjoy that 130+ point “bump”, fucking clown.

Although I suppose that for the birther party, I also am expected to show my long entry form and a cashed check for my membership dues hahahahahaa.

Why you may even get Donald Trump on the case with daily phone calls to Fox News with the status of his investigation? How about sending a team of investigators to Mensa HQ to investigate? LOLOL

How about my passport records and college transcripts?

LOL

hahahahahha

Fucking clown.[/quote]

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]treco wrote:
As I told my wife last night, it is not a single election that worries me about this country - but the fact that the society showed its’ brokenness by sending this candidate back in for 4 more years.
[/quote]

In my opinion Romney showed evidence of a more broken candidate [/quote]

Very good point pittski. He talked too much about small things. Called the other guy a thief, murderer and tax cheat. He then launched a fake war on women against him.

Oh wait…[/quote]

as always Zeb your views are limited and biased
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And as usual you speak in general terms because you are unable to refute the above.
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You are entitled to your narrow opinion of the world
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Once again you cannot refute the fact that Obama did exactly what I’ve claimed. So, you cling to the general.

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What is to refute ?
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Scroll back and look at the first thing you used your generalities with. I know it’s difficult for you to keep up. But, you either have to keep up or shut up. And I know you can’t do the latter so work harder.

We have to out give Democrats.

Romney never overcame bailout opposition in Ohio

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]treco wrote:
As I told my wife last night, it is not a single election that worries me about this country - but the fact that the society showed its’ brokenness by sending this candidate back in for 4 more years.
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In my opinion Romney showed evidence of a more broken candidate [/quote]

Very good point pittski. He talked too much about small things. Called the other guy a thief, murderer and tax cheat. He then launched a fake war on women against him.

Oh wait…[/quote]

as always Zeb your views are limited and biased
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And as usual you speak in general terms because you are unable to refute the above.
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You are entitled to your narrow opinion of the world
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Once again you cannot refute the fact that Obama did exactly what I’ve claimed. So, you cling to the general.

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What is to refute ?
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Scroll back and look at the first thing you used your generalities with. I know it’s difficult for you to keep up. But, you either have to keep up or shut up. And I know you can’t do the latter so work harder.[/quote]

It is in your court please inform me how you did not get justice

[quote]Sloth wrote:
We have to out give Democrats.

Romney never overcame bailout opposition in Ohio

what was the final tally ? 332 vs 206 ? is that a land slide ?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]treco wrote:
As I told my wife last night, it is not a single election that worries me about this country - but the fact that the society showed its’ brokenness by sending this candidate back in for 4 more years.
[/quote]

In my opinion Romney showed evidence of a more broken candidate [/quote]

Very good point pittski. He talked too much about small things. Called the other guy a thief, murderer and tax cheat. He then launched a fake war on women against him.

Oh wait…[/quote]

as always Zeb your views are limited and biased
[/quote]

And as usual you speak in general terms because you are unable to refute the above.
[/quote]

You are entitled to your narrow opinion of the world
[/quote]

Once again you cannot refute the fact that Obama did exactly what I’ve claimed. So, you cling to the general.

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What is to refute ?
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Scroll back and look at the first thing you used your generalities with. I know it’s difficult for you to keep up. But, you either have to keep up or shut up. And I know you can’t do the latter so work harder.[/quote]

It is in your court please inform me how you did not get justice
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I never said any such thing Pitt get back to me when you can actually carry on an intelligent conversation.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Speaking of Tea Party, Allen West fighting the good fight.

He was re-district-ed right out of office…

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If Allen West is your type of candidate/congressman then I believe you guys on the right are in a bit deeper shit than you think. West is more than likely the victim of some profound yet un-diagnosed personality disorder, you should be thanking God he is gone, his membership in your party makes you all a little suspect and his presence in congress made the people of his district look downright insane. Yes I know the dems have a bunch of shady characters in the party as well, but you don’t see us writing any tearful goodbyes when they get what they deserve.

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Speaking of Tea Party, Allen West fighting the good fight.

He was re-district-ed right out of office…

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If Allen West is your type of candidate/congressman then I believe you guys on the right are in a bit deeper shit than you think. West is more than likely the victim of some profound yet un-diagnosed personality disorder, you should be thanking God he is gone, his membership in your party makes you all a little suspect and his presence in congress made the people of his district look downright insane. Yes I know the dems have a bunch of shady characters in the party as well, but you don’t see us writing any tearful goodbyes when they get what they deserve.[/quote]

He said outrageous things that you didn’t like? Oh no, how dare he.

The man called it like he saw it, and right, wrong or indifferent wasn’t going to back down and cower for positive media spin after he said it. He stands by what he said.

On top of the fact it is painfully obvious he is more well read than a vast majority of congress, and yourself, he served this great nation and is a good speaker.

I’d follow him to hell and back, and I’m not a follower.

I suppose backing up your slanderous accusations would be easy then?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Speaking of Tea Party, Allen West fighting the good fight.

He was re-district-ed right out of office…

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If Allen West is your type of candidate/congressman then I believe you guys on the right are in a bit deeper shit than you think. West is more than likely the victim of some profound yet un-diagnosed personality disorder, you should be thanking God he is gone, his membership in your party makes you all a little suspect and his presence in congress made the people of his district look downright insane. Yes I know the dems have a bunch of shady characters in the party as well, but you don’t see us writing any tearful goodbyes when they get what they deserve.[/quote]

He said outrageous things that you didn’t like? Oh no, how dare he.

The man called it like he saw it, and right, wrong or indifferent wasn’t going to back down and cower for positive media spin after he said it. He stands by what he said.

On top of the fact it is painfully obvious he is more well read than a vast majority of congress, and yourself, he served this great nation and is a good speaker.

I’d follow him to hell and back, and I’m not a follower.

I suppose backing up your slanderous accusations would be easy then?[/quote]

I literally LOL’d when I read your post especially:

He said outrageous things that you didn’t like? Oh no, how dare he

this is essentially the crux of your issue with me, the difference being I disagree with your ideas and think they are mostly the work of hate filled d-bags with limited imaginations

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I’d follow him to hell and back, and I’m not a follower.

That’s absolutely ridiculous, you are 100% a follower, your posts do nothing but reinforce that obvious conclusion.

and

I suppose backing up your slanderous accusations would be easy then?

I have an idea, why don’t you prove Allen West isn’t a fucking fruitbat. The guy is a certifiable loon and your gravy swallowing support of him makes it clear that you have zero credibility as “reader of people”. The guy was essentially booted out of the Army after 20 years, while we were in the middle of a war, any thoughts on how that might lead one to assume he is not mentally sound? His statements tell a tale of either stupidity or insanity, either way he shouldn’t be in congress.

By the way, what has lead you to be such an ardent supporter of West? And since when have you been hanging out in his library? And finally how do you come to the conclusion he is more well read than me? I’m retired I read constantly, so clearly you are talking out your ass.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
We have to out give Democrats.

Romney never overcame bailout opposition in Ohio

what was the final tally ? 332 vs 206 ? is that a land slide ?[/quote]

The electoral college is pathetic, Romney lost by 3% in the popular vote.

[quote]maverick88 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I’ve spent a few days thinking about it and I’ve arrived at the following conclusion (sorry if I repeat someone’s idea, the thread is too long to read at this point): it’s just not “cool” to be conservative.

Think about it. Obama hit’s the late night circuit where all the Hollywood types go, he goes on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart (where MOST under 30 somethings get their news from), he gets HUGE celebrity endorsements (Will.i.am from the Black Eyed Peas, George Cloony, Scarlet Johansson, Adrian Grenier to name a few - effectively hitting the music, tv and movie celebrities right there).

He’s identified with a “tribe” that MOST younger (and some not so younger) people subscribe to and want to identify with - it’s marketing fucking 101. Who did the GOP put up? Clint Eastwood? He talked to a fucking CHAIR for 20 minutes… Don’t get me wrong - I LUV me some Clint, but the guy is like 100 years old now and in his last movie he’s telling members of the younger generation to “get off my lawn!” Not exactly who younger folks identify with these days.

In today’s MEDIA saturated environment (and let’s face it, every media source other than FOX loves Obama and the Democrats and only shows them in a positive light), where celebrities are put up on pedestals and worshiped, where reality TV has turned zeros to heroes, where the American population is told HOW to THINK and is brainwashed with liberal stupidity on a daily basis, Obama could take a shit on the White House lawn and the MEDIA would do a story on how “progressive” he is and how that’s the cool thing to do now and how EVERYONE should be shitting on their lawns cuz it’s good for the environment. It’s getting pretty downright ridiculous how biased the MEDIA is.

So now that the MEDIA is controlling the message, EVERY TIME there is way to twist a Republican policy or party member mis-step, it’s broadcast all over the airwaves for weeks and the offender is crucified and eaten alive by a pack of savage MEDIA dogs with no respite UNTIL the NEXT Republican/Social Conservative steps on his proverbial dick.

And while I’m on the subject of stepping on dicks, what idiot talks about rape and god’s will in the same sentence? Seriously?! Who ARE these morons? I mean with all the MONEY the GOP is throwing at winning elections, I think they should take a few dollars and invest it in mandatory CHARM SCHOOL for all GOP candidates. Or at LEAST an 8 hour seminar on “the top ten things NEVER to say when the camera is rolling”. I mean weren’t their like TWO fucking SENATORS who were talking about “legitimate rape” and “rape is god’s will”? I don’t know WHAT they said, but the MEDIA sure got ahold of it and now we lost TWO SENATE SEATS because of that foolishness! Mandatory charm school for all GOP candidates. MOST people know that when a man talks about rape, it USUALLY doesn’t turn out being a comfortable conversation - why a POLITICIAN doesn’t know that is beyond me… Anyway, I digress.

The following few issues are what alienates the GOP platform from the MAJORITY of Americans:

-Immigration. Seriously, will ALL the Spanish speaking folks in New Mexico, Cali and Florida, you MIGHT think that completely ALIENATING them would be a bad idea. They are the LARGEST GROWING DEMOGRAPHIC and they identify with NINETY NINE PERCENT of what the Republican Party stands for. Their values are OUR values! Everything except for that part about how it’s cool for cops to just pull their people over and ask them to PROVE their legal status like it’s 1930’s Germany. Except for that part where the presidential candidate says on TV that they should “just leave”. Except for the part about how Republicans want it to be illegal for them to go to a hospital. Those things they have a problem with… Just sayin’…

-The WAR on DRUGS. Get over it. People want to smoke their weed. If at the next meeting of the republican minds, they got their collective heads out of their collective asses when it comes to marijuana, we could WIN the next election hands down. That would be a good strategy if we BEAT the Democrats to it. We are the party of personal freedom and less gov’t regulation. Why wouldn’t we want to legalize what over FORTY PERCENT of the country is doing ANYWAY. I won’t go into this anymore, there have been THREADS about this. But TWO STATES have decriminalized it, and more states won’t be far behind. Let’s get ahead of the curve on this one.

-The WAR on GAYS. Speaking of something that two states legalized by popular consensus. The GOP needs to get out of the bedroom. If you can’t bring yourself to legalize gay marriage then just STOP regulating marriage all together. Same sex couples in long term committed relationships ARE being disenfranchised. Get over it. Fags are here to stay. Don’t ask, don’t tell has gone away. Only religious nutjobs have an opinion on how two adults find their happiness. MANY of them are wealthy and but for that whole taking it up the ass thing, would fit right in to conservative ideology. It would be great to have their vote.

-The WAR on WOMEN. I know, I know. The most hotly contested topic: ABORTION. Everyone get’s their panties in a bunch over this one. Roe v Wade has been around as long as I’ve been alive. Almost 40 years (almost as long as the failed war on drugs). Does anyone REALLY think they are going to just “STOP” doing abortions? While I may find it distasteful, and many of us here think it’s a “sin”, that battle has been lost. Fucking CONCEDE it already! The only thing we accomplish by continuing to talk about it is alienating women. Let it become the RELIGIOUS ISSUE that it IS and let the CHURCHES lead that march. Not Republicans.

which brings me to…

-The WAR on EVERYONE NOT A CHRISTIAN. Guess what? Crazy Christians are how MOST Democrats view Republicans. Why? Because SO MANY CRAZY WING NUT CHRISTIANS ARE ELECTED! Seriously. The party needs to distance itself from all that religious stuff. I’m just going to stop there, lest I offend people.

HALF of the the four “wars” up there are driven by religion. A MAJORITY of the country does NOT agree with it!!! So DROP IT. Focus on the fiscal issues. Focus on smaller government. Focus on Tax Reform. Focus on restructuring the entitlements so that they might actually help those in need. Focus on building American and BUYING American (you’ll win the Union vote). Focus on promoting a CLEAN energy policy that includes drilling for oil and natural gas AND explores alternative energy.

That’s MY opinion on what the GOP needs to do to get back in touch with the America of TODAY. ALL these issues like abortion, gays, drugs and immigration are like the demons of Pandora’s Box - THEY AIN’T GOING BACK IN THE BOX! They are here to stay. Pretending it’s the 1950’s and thinking that society will regress and shrink it’s thinking about issues that over half of the population has already accepted is foolish. It’s a losing battle. And if we fail to adapt our party will go the way of the dodo bird (even you creationists can acknowledge that the dodo bird failed to adapt and subsequently became extinct, right?).

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I agree with what you are saying but, would this not just be a Libertarian? Fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
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I think the larger implication is that the current status quo of the GOP is not staying around.

Adapt or perish, such is politics (and life in general).

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

this is essentially the crux of your issue with me,[/quote]

I have no issues with you. I challenge the ideas you post that I disagree with, but that doesn’t mean I have any issues with you.

What ideas would those be?

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That’s absolutely ridiculous, you are 100% a follower, your posts do nothing but reinforce that obvious conclusion.[/quote]

What posts would those be? Please use specifics. Projection, conjecture and stating falsehoods do not make fact.

What you are doing here may very well work in campaign commercials but in real life one needs to back up their claims…

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I have an idea, why don’t you prove Allen West isn’t a fucking fruitbat.[/quote]

Well you see, you made the slanderous claim, the burden of proof is on you.

So please, prove your claims.

I love how you have to attack me, to try and prove your point about someone else.

Lends credence to your position, I’m sure.

Link? Anything to back this up?

Oh I can hear your response now: “look it up”…

Which statements would those be?

I believe I answered that in the post you were too busy falling all over yourself to tell me you laughed at.

For one, he doesn’t speak in vulgarity like you do. His vernacular and demeanor eclipses yours. Even spoken live not with the option to think out text on a keyboard. While you are hard at work trying to come up with crafty insults and intellectual stunners like oral sex innuendo, he cites from historical texts, facts and figures that seem to escape your posts.

If this is what you need to tell yourself in order to deal, then fine. I don’t mind.

I’m still waiting on you to tell us all what is a “fair” distribution of taxes paid in the other thread.

In other news… Buzz has a theory

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Nevermind not worth it[/quote]

Didn’t you say you were leaving a couple hours ago?

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When he does, expect this on the other forums:

“…GOP Blowjob Barn in PWI…”

“…circle jerk in PWI…”

“…cesspool of the site…”

“…too many conservative posters…”

[i]Yap

Blab

Sniffle[/i]

Then one day…SHAZAM!..progressives will win another election (which they most certainly will) and back he’ll come to do another belly-buster in the pool, bob over to the shallow end, and stumble back up the steps looking for his towel and the exit gate.
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LOL the real funny part is all the most vocal fuckwits on this sub-forum (including yourself) have somehow fancied themselves to be the “intellectual elite”. Maybe sitting around all day hearing guys agree with you makes you think you are smarter than you actually are, and thus that anybody that disagrees with you is obviously not. I think there are studies on that as a matter of fact, that whole “echo chamber phenomen”. Maybe you actually need that and that’s why you drive off the “progressive” posters that dare enter your little circle jerk? I dunno, but its quite comical.

It’s especially ironic as I look through these threads leading up to the election when you guys were so fucking confident that your guy was gonna take it home (possibly even in a landslide LOL). That’s because you and your ilk live in a fucking bubble, where your own ideas are repeated back to you and no amount of outside knowledge will penetrate it. That’s fine, keep going into these elections and coming out of them scratching your ass thinking “whaaa happeneddddd???” Then you’ll go back to those very same sources to discuss the results and get your “answers” LOL

Rinse wash repeat.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
We’ll enjoy the bump in PWI’s average IQ after your departure. Don’t let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you.[/quote]

hahahahahha yeah enjoy that 130+ point “bump”, fucking clown.

Although I suppose that for the birther party, I also am expected to show my long entry form and a cashed check for my membership dues hahahahahaa.

Why you may even get Donald Trump on the case with daily phone calls to Fox News with the status of his investigation? How about sending a team of investigators to Mensa HQ to investigate? LOLOL

How about my passport records and college transcripts?

LOL

hahahahahha

Fucking clown.
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LOL, I’m reading an article by a David Woodward, almost shit my pants, so close…Damn!

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

this is essentially the crux of your issue with me,[/quote]

I have no issues with you. I challenge the ideas you post that I disagree with, but that doesn’t mean I have any issues with you.

What ideas would those be?

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That’s absolutely ridiculous, you are 100% a follower, your posts do nothing but reinforce that obvious conclusion.[/quote]

What posts would those be? Please use specifics. Projection, conjecture and stating falsehoods do not make fact.

What you are doing here may very well work in campaign commercials but in real life one needs to back up their claims…

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I have an idea, why don’t you prove Allen West isn’t a fucking fruitbat.[/quote]

Well you see, you made the slanderous claim, the burden of proof is on you.

So please, prove your claims.

I love how you have to attack me, to try and prove your point about someone else.

Lends credence to your position, I’m sure.

Link? Anything to back this up?

Oh I can hear your response now: “look it up”…

Which statements would those be?

I believe I answered that in the post you were too busy falling all over yourself to tell me you laughed at.

For one, he doesn’t speak in vulgarity like you do. His vernacular and demeanor eclipses yours. Even spoken live not with the option to think out text on a keyboard. While you are hard at work trying to come up with crafty insults and intellectual stunners like oral sex innuendo, he cites from historical texts, facts and figures that seem to escape your posts.

If this is what you need to tell yourself in order to deal, then fine. I don’t mind.

I’m still waiting on you to

Hey Beans if you want to understand Briaaan all you have to do is try to figure out every goofy liberal idea from the 1990’s and BANG you are in his head.

But I assure you it isn’t worth it.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Hey Beans if you want to understand [/quote]

What I don’t understand is how, if West is so horrid and a stain to the party, why did he win Palm Beach County, which Obama won by 102k votes and 58%-41% against Romney?

West lost by 2,400 votes, and St Lucie County has some early voting issues I guess. The race isn’t over, but it doesn’t look good for West. As St. Lucie went for Obam the same % it went for Murphy.

It looks like West will lose the race, but I highly doubt we’ve heard the last from him in politics, like you said.

I would expect to see Scott Brown rise up again, although a lot of people think he is a RINO. I tend to see him as a good man who votes for good ideas. Plus as a Mass conservative, he is going to be a bit more liberal than a heartland or southern conservative.

West was allowed to take retirement instead of facing court martial.
He detained an Iraqi his men beat him he fired a weapon “near” the mans head.
Turns out the guy had done nothing noncombatant.
West was asserting he thought the guy threatened to kill him.
The military got rid of West without a lot of publicity on an issue many civilians would find troubling, that it largely did not care about itself.

[quote]groo wrote:
West was allowed to take retirement instead of facing court martial.
He detained an Iraqi his men beat him he fired a weapon “near” the mans head.
Turns out the guy had done nothing noncombatant.
West was asserting he thought the guy threatened to kill him.
The military got rid of West without a lot of publicity on an issue many civilians would find troubling, that it largely did not care about itself.[/quote]

Thanks.

“I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers,” West testified, adding later: “If it’s about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I’d go through hell with a gasoline can.”

From here: PolitiFact | Patrick Murphy attacks Allen West for military investigation

Yeah, so ah… This makes me like him more.