[quote]Sloth wrote:
I know the idea today is that Romney won the old white voters. However, it looks he like simply won white voters. That is, he won the the young white voters. He won all age groups of white voters, in fact. White women. And so on.
Good link Sloth. Once again I wanted Romney to choose Rubio who would have been able to reach out to minorities, not to mention deliver Florida.
The republican party is going to have to do a better job of expressing concern for minorities. We need to reach out to them and point out why it’s better to vote republican than to embrace the obama nanny state. I don’t think it would be that difficult with most minority groups[/quote]
I watched every single republican debate and I got to tell you the rhetoric was not exactly Latino friendly and the Latino vote reflected this in the general election. I also know you hate Stewart, but he ran a series of clips the other night of Gingrich, Bachman, and Santorum shredding Romney as an out-of-touch-rich white guy who looted companies while at Bain and who shipped jobs to China. Stewart didn’t make that shit up, its all on video. Its tough to blame the “dirty smear campaign” run by the Dems when the other R’s are the ones who started the narrative in the first place. One of the biggest problems for the republican party on the national scene is its own selection process.
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Yeah, but the problem is the R’s only did what the D’s were going to do. Romney ran a tough, tough, primary campaign. At least his pac’s did. So the other republicans went for it. If anything it HELPED Romney. He was prepared for what was going to come up. Trust me, Obama’s team was ready with this stuff, and far more capable of getting it out there.
As for minorities. Romney really shouldn’t have tried to out tough Perry and Gingrich on immigration. Especially Gingrich. Gingrich was on to something with his approach.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
I know the idea today is that Romney won the old white voters. However, it looks he like simply won white voters. That is, he won the the young white voters. He won all age groups of white voters, in fact. White women. And so on.
Good link Sloth. Once again I wanted Romney to choose Rubio who would have been able to reach out to minorities, not to mention deliver Florida.
The republican party is going to have to do a better job of expressing concern for minorities. We need to reach out to them and point out why it’s better to vote republican than to embrace the obama nanny state. I don’t think it would be that difficult with most minority groups[/quote]
I watched every single republican debate and I got to tell you the rhetoric was not exactly Latino friendly and the Latino vote reflected this in the general election. I also know you hate Stewart, but he ran a series of clips the other night of Gingrich, Bachman, and Santorum shredding Romney as an out-of-touch-rich white guy who looted companies while at Bain and who shipped jobs to China. Stewart didn’t make that shit up, its all on video. Its tough to blame the “dirty smear campaign” run by the Dems when the other R’s are the ones who started the narrative in the first place. One of the biggest problems for the republican party on the national scene is its own selection process.
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While I agree with much of what you have to say however I do not agree that it is the process that harmed us. Four years earlier Obama went through a very difficult primary process. Remember Hillary Clinton’s phone call at 3:00AM commercial? The implication was that Obama was not experienced enough to handle such a big job (and she was correct).
Once the primary process is over each candidate (dem and repub) move to the center. However, when you have an Obama friendly media (and that is putting it mildly) you have sycophants like Stewart who are more than happy to run such clips. Where are the clips again of both Hillary and Obama’s own VP Biden mocking him and tearing down Obama? Oops! Never saw them. In fact according to the MSLM it never happened. And where was the vetting of Obama? Oops! The press forgot. You cannot beat an incumbent who has the media in his hip pocket. It was not Romney who lost, it was Obama who won. The republicans would not have won with any of the candidates. In fact, Romney came within 1.5 million votes and none of the others would have come that close in my opinion. Each would have been sacrificed on the alter of the media elite for daring to challenge the chosen one. And any of them would have been a far better President than the one we are stuck with now.
We will not have another republican President until we actually have a media that is fair to both candidates. This can happen many ways so I am optimistic.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
I know the idea today is that Romney won the old white voters. However, it looks he like simply won white voters. That is, he won the the young white voters. He won all age groups of white voters, in fact. White women. And so on.
Good link Sloth. Once again I wanted Romney to choose Rubio who would have been able to reach out to minorities, not to mention deliver Florida.
The republican party is going to have to do a better job of expressing concern for minorities. We need to reach out to them and point out why it’s better to vote republican than to embrace the obama nanny state. I don’t think it would be that difficult with most minority groups[/quote]
I watched every single republican debate and I got to tell you the rhetoric was not exactly Latino friendly and the Latino vote reflected this in the general election. I also know you hate Stewart, but he ran a series of clips the other night of Gingrich, Bachman, and Santorum shredding Romney as an out-of-touch-rich white guy who looted companies while at Bain and who shipped jobs to China. Stewart didn’t make that shit up, its all on video. Its tough to blame the “dirty smear campaign” run by the Dems when the other R’s are the ones who started the narrative in the first place. One of the biggest problems for the republican party on the national scene is its own selection process.
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That was a great segment. Fox News sitting in its ivory tower and waxing indignant while many of the worst Romney smears came from within its own party and indeed on its programs. Gingrich tried to go after the guy for speaking French and called him a corporate raider and then goes on Fox to make his election day prediction.
I thought Stewart going after the giddy anchors for their fatuous little marijuana jokes was even better.
"Finally, the Republican Party has to set a tone that is more respectful, positive and inclusive. The immigration rhetoric that came out of the Republican primary seemed harsh, unwelcoming and offputting to many minority voters. Obama increased his share of the Hispanic vote and won it 69 percent to 29 percent (per The New York Times exit poll); likewise he built a huge margin among Asian voters, 74-25, almost doubling the margin of his support compared to 2008. Both of those constituencies are hardworking, upwardly mobile, family-oriented, and should be open to Republican appeals if we don?t make them feel unwelcome.
And if another Republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific, violent crime, I want to personally cut out his tongue. The college-age daughters of many of my friends voted for Obama because they were completely turned off by Neanderthal comments like the suggestion of ‘legitimate rape.’"
And if another Republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific, violent crime…
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Oh come on. The question isn’t about rape. It’s not like someone said to a pro-lifer “how do you feel about rape?” The question was about the conception of life during a rape. Can we please stop pretending that Mourdouck said rape was God’s will? Election’s over, we don’t have to do it anymore. We all know he said the beginning of a life was God’s will, and that the rape itself was a horrible thing. Not, that rape was God’s will.
“I believe that life begins at conception. The only exception I have to have an abortion is in that case of the life of the mother. I just struggled with it myself for a long time but I came to realize life is that gift from God that I think even if life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.”
LOL oh and your petty name calling is somehow different? What, you get to do it because you have jerked off to 15,000+ posts in the PWI forum of a weightlifting site? LOL that is great man. Too funny…
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And this has what to do with “Why Obama Won?”
So far you’ve fallen short of our expectations Sparky.
Don’t get me wrong we like the entertainment value that you bring to the site. But even the weak minded supply at least a feeble argument now and again.
So…you better get your mind off of me jerking off or any other homo erotic fantasies that you may have (based on your most recent post) and get cranking out something of substance…got it in you?
I doubt it.
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Weak minded LMFAO…that is a fucking riot…Which one of the two of us in this debate has a Mensa card buddy?
And if another Republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific, violent crime…
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Oh come on. The question isn’t about rape. It’s not like someone said to a pro-lifer “how do you feel about rape?” The question was about the conception of life during a rape. Can we please stop pretending that Mourdouck said rape was God’s will? Election’s over, we don’t have to do it anymore. We all know he said the beginning of a life was God’s will, and that the rape itself was a horrible thing. Not, that rape was God’s will.
“I believe that life begins at conception. The only exception I have to have an abortion is in that case of the life of the mother. I just struggled with it myself for a long time but I came to realize life is that gift from God that I think even if life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.”[/quote]
I agree, those words I quoted were from a Republican adviser and were apropos of this discussion.
I do think that Republicans are going to have to go out of their way not to fall into these pitfalls. And Akin doesn’t have Mourdock’s excuse: what he said was unbelievably stupid and he deserved to lose the election.
LOL oh and your petty name calling is somehow different? What, you get to do it because you have jerked off to 15,000+ posts in the PWI forum of a weightlifting site? LOL that is great man. Too funny…
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And this has what to do with “Why Obama Won?”
So far you’ve fallen short of our expectations Sparky.
Don’t get me wrong we like the entertainment value that you bring to the site. But even the weak minded supply at least a feeble argument now and again.
So…you better get your mind off of me jerking off or any other homo erotic fantasies that you may have (based on your most recent post) and get cranking out something of substance…got it in you?
I doubt it.
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Weak minded LMFAO…that is a fucking riot…Which one of the two of us in this debate has a Mensa card buddy? [/quote]
Give him some credit on that post, he made it 5 whole sentences without using the L word.
And if another Republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific, violent crime…
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Oh come on. The question isn’t about rape. It’s not like someone said to a pro-lifer “how do you feel about rape?” The question was about the conception of life during a rape. Can we please stop pretending that Mourdouck said rape was God’s will? Election’s over, we don’t have to do it anymore. We all know he said the beginning of a life was God’s will, and that the rape itself was a horrible thing. Not, that rape was God’s will.
“I believe that life begins at conception. The only exception I have to have an abortion is in that case of the life of the mother. I just struggled with it myself for a long time but I came to realize life is that gift from God that I think even if life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.”[/quote]
I agree, those words I quoted were from a Republican adviser and were apropos of this discussion.
I do think that Republicans are going to have to go out of their way not to fall into these pitfalls. And Akin doesn’t have Mourdock’s excuse: what he said was unbelievably stupid and he deserved to lose the election.[/quote]
I agree about Akin, because he went into some odd biological-anti-conception-rape-defense-mechanism-thingy.
And if another Republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific, violent crime…
[/quote]
Oh come on. The question isn’t about rape. It’s not like someone said to a pro-lifer “how do you feel about rape?” The question was about the conception of life during a rape. Can we please stop pretending that Mourdouck said rape was God’s will? Election’s over, we don’t have to do it anymore. We all know he said the beginning of a life was God’s will, and that the rape itself was a horrible thing. Not, that rape was God’s will.
“I believe that life begins at conception. The only exception I have to have an abortion is in that case of the life of the mother. I just struggled with it myself for a long time but I came to realize life is that gift from God that I think even if life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.”[/quote]
I agree, those words I quoted were from a Republican adviser and were apropos of this discussion.
I do think that Republicans are going to have to go out of their way not to fall into these pitfalls. And Akin doesn’t have Mourdock’s excuse: what he said was unbelievably stupid and he deserved to lose the election.[/quote]
I agree about Akin, because he went into some odd biological-anti-conception-rape-defense-mechanism-thingy. [/quote]
Odd is not the word I would use. Repulsive,ignorant or both may be better. But that’s just me.
LOL oh and your petty name calling is somehow different? What, you get to do it because you have jerked off to 15,000+ posts in the PWI forum of a weightlifting site? LOL that is great man. Too funny…
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And this has what to do with “Why Obama Won?”
So far you’ve fallen short of our expectations Sparky.
Don’t get me wrong we like the entertainment value that you bring to the site. But even the weak minded supply at least a feeble argument now and again.
So…you better get your mind off of me jerking off or any other homo erotic fantasies that you may have (based on your most recent post) and get cranking out something of substance…got it in you?
I doubt it.
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Weak minded LMFAO…that is a fucking riot…Which one of the two of us in this debate has a Mensa card buddy? [/quote]
And if another Republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific, violent crime…
[/quote]
Oh come on. The question isn’t about rape. It’s not like someone said to a pro-lifer “how do you feel about rape?” The question was about the conception of life during a rape. Can we please stop pretending that Mourdouck said rape was God’s will? Election’s over, we don’t have to do it anymore. We all know he said the beginning of a life was God’s will, and that the rape itself was a horrible thing. Not, that rape was God’s will.
“I believe that life begins at conception. The only exception I have to have an abortion is in that case of the life of the mother. I just struggled with it myself for a long time but I came to realize life is that gift from God that I think even if life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.”[/quote]
I agree, those words I quoted were from a Republican adviser and were apropos of this discussion.
I do think that Republicans are going to have to go out of their way not to fall into these pitfalls. And Akin doesn’t have Mourdock’s excuse: what he said was unbelievably stupid and he deserved to lose the election.[/quote]
I agree about Akin, because he went into some odd biological-anti-conception-rape-defense-mechanism-thingy. [/quote]
Odd is not the word I would use. Repulsive,ignorant or both may be better. But that’s just me. [/quote]
A woman thag gets raped is actually more likely to conceive.
And if another Republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific, violent crime…
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Oh come on. The question isn’t about rape. It’s not like someone said to a pro-lifer “how do you feel about rape?” The question was about the conception of life during a rape. Can we please stop pretending that Mourdouck said rape was God’s will? Election’s over, we don’t have to do it anymore. We all know he said the beginning of a life was God’s will, and that the rape itself was a horrible thing. Not, that rape was God’s will.
“I believe that life begins at conception. The only exception I have to have an abortion is in that case of the life of the mother. I just struggled with it myself for a long time but I came to realize life is that gift from God that I think even if life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.”[/quote]
I agree, those words I quoted were from a Republican adviser and were apropos of this discussion.
I do think that Republicans are going to have to go out of their way not to fall into these pitfalls. And Akin doesn’t have Mourdock’s excuse: what he said was unbelievably stupid and he deserved to lose the election.[/quote]
I agree about Akin, because he went into some odd biological-anti-conception-rape-defense-mechanism-thingy. [/quote]
Odd is not the word I would use. Repulsive,ignorant or both may be better. But that’s just me. [/quote]
A woman thag gets raped is actually more likely to conceive. [/quote]
And if another Republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific, violent crime…
[/quote]
Oh come on. The question isn’t about rape. It’s not like someone said to a pro-lifer “how do you feel about rape?” The question was about the conception of life during a rape. Can we please stop pretending that Mourdouck said rape was God’s will? Election’s over, we don’t have to do it anymore. We all know he said the beginning of a life was God’s will, and that the rape itself was a horrible thing. Not, that rape was God’s will.
“I believe that life begins at conception. The only exception I have to have an abortion is in that case of the life of the mother. I just struggled with it myself for a long time but I came to realize life is that gift from God that I think even if life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.”[/quote]
I agree, those words I quoted were from a Republican adviser and were apropos of this discussion.
I do think that Republicans are going to have to go out of their way not to fall into these pitfalls. And Akin doesn’t have Mourdock’s excuse: what he said was unbelievably stupid and he deserved to lose the election.[/quote]
I agree about Akin, because he went into some odd biological-anti-conception-rape-defense-mechanism-thingy. [/quote]
Well maybe someone should introduce Akin to Jerry Sandusky.
