Why Not HCG Monotherapy?

Hi there,

Maybe a dumb question. Sorry in advance for that.

But why is everyone choosing for T-injections in stead of HCG monotherapy?

Thanx!

TRT is tolerated better than hCG, and older men don’t always respond favorably (higher mileage), while some men can’t tolerate hCG at any dosage.

HCG isn’t convenient, traveling with something that needs refrigeration isn’t always possible.

TRT is more convenient, TRT can be dosed once weekly, hCG has a shorter half-life and can’t be dosed once weekly.

The majority of men on TRT inject once weekly.

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It’s not everyone. Some men are fine with HCG alone, even at doses up to 10,000 IU per week.

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Thanx man!

So i see the disadvantages you mentioned.

On the other hand you can also gain muscle, better erection, libido and mood on HCG, like TRT. And if you have to stop TRT, you still have your own production. Am i right?

If you have true hypogonadal levels than yes, any method that increases FT to a normal range will aid in strength building to a degree.

This is individual. A lot of it depends on not just T but E2 as well as lifestyle and other outside parameters. Many men struggle with erections and libido on their HRT protocols.

HCG made me feel like dog meat. I hate the stuff. So mood would also be at the individual level.

Your own production will be non existent for awhile. You can try a PCT regiment to kick start the HPTA if you want to recover. You may or may not get back to your pre-treatment levels. However, if you truly need TRT than going back to pre-treatment levels isn’t a good thing. They should be pretty bad if you were to have needed TRT.

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Everyone isn’t choosing T injections. You’d have to look up primary vs secondary hypogonadism and appropriate/effective treatments for each.

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I left out something, for someone with primary hypogonadism (testicular failure) or mixed hypogonadism, no. For someone with secondary hypogonadism, you’re right.

It’s a common occurrence.

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HCG isn’t super well-tolerated and wouldn’t be helpful for anyone that was primary hypo. It’s also expensive and can be difficult to get.

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@systemlord

How do we know if we have primary hypo, mixed or just secondary?

I’m coming off TRT for now and using HCG monotherapy to boost fertility and seeing if can kick start the balls, hopefully it works :+1:t4:

HCG is also much more expensive. I pay 150 for 10000iu of pregnyl that is only good for 2 months… a bottle of test cyp is 50 bucks that last 2-3 months.

If I had to do it over, I would have tried out enclophimene first.

You can only diagnose this before starting treatment or after a long cessation period. You would need lab work showing testosterone levels along with Lh/Fsh and preferable a couple different draws over a month period to confirm as these hormones fluctuate.

What dose are you using that lasts only 2 months from one bottle?

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Right lads last q before i stick myself :rofl:

5000 iu HCG is mixed with 2ml bac water.

I have a 1ml insulin needle and filled it (this is the max on the needle, so 10 or 1.0). Is this definitely 1000iu now?

Just to finally confirm before i go ahead. This is correct isn’t it? and ill do this 3 x per week (so 3000iu overall per week for first 2 weeks), and may drop to 500iu x 3 in 2 wks time.

Please let us know, cheers :+1:t4:

Out of curiosity what would the typical hcg dosage and frequency be for someone on long term hcg monotherapy?

I’m likely switching from clomid to T + hcg late this month, but curious what hcg alone may be like for me

Also is there any reason to let clomid leave your system before commencing hcg monotherapy?

That would mean there are 2500IU in 1mL of solution. You would inject 0.4mL to give you 1000IU.

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@highpull @blshaw @systemlord @swoops39

Thank you, oh balls i’ve injected myself with 2,500 iu then!! It wouldn’t be a major issue would it?? I had it Monday

I thought 0.5 would be 500iu as its a 1ml syringe?

That would mean there are 2500IU in 1mL of solution - does this mean once its mixed yes?

I’m due my next one today and then Friday, so will do 0.4ml going forward or 500iu.

So would 0.2ml be 500iu? These are insulin 1ml needles.

Can i just fill the syringe and do 0.2ml or 0.4ml and then just put syringe back in fridge and use again or best to just mix water with hcg vial and just draw when need it?

Also feeling a little itchy around nips and breast areas at times, prob because done 2,500iu!! But is Aromisin the best AI if need it? And how much to take?

I have noticed major pains in fingers, knees, elbows etc since coming off test will hcg help with this or make transition smoothest come off?

One last q - used to be a major cannabis addict, however ive cut down to 1 joint per night to aid this as much as possible, so less than 0.5 gram used - in your opinion please would this have any effect on the hcg or nolva (when start pct).

Cheers for your help! :+1:t4::ok_hand:t4:

Please let me know ASAP if poss as waiting to inject, or if best to leave till tomorrow (so just do 2 x this week due to accidental high dose!)

Any thoughts @systemlord ?

I would start out 500 IU 3x per week if first time starting hCG mono therapy. If doing TRT + hCG, 500 IU twice weekly. You can even cycle the hCG, if you don’t tolerate it well.

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@blshaw @systemlord @highpull

Lads please see above and help if poss? Ive missed the dose today just in case its overdosing etc, will do 500 (0.4ml) iu going forward!

Hi guys, just wondering if anyone seen this yet and anyone have any advice?

I’ve taken another 500iu today 0.2ml as felt like crap and felt as if withdrawals jittery and anxiety through roof

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