[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
I think the idea is that many people just don’t digest legumes particularly well. I think that some of the guys try to fit that into their Paleo box by saying that legumes are a cultivated crop, Grok didn’t have legumes, whatever. I could care less about that; cavemen also didn’t have toothpaste but I’ll take my Crest thank you very much. Robb Wolf has a very brief section in his book regarding legumes, and basically says, “they are bad,” without too much explanation and says that the references in the back explain it in detail. I haven’t looked through all of the abstracts, but I haven’t seen any that seem to really deal with legumes. To my knowledge, there’s not the same problems with lectins with legumes as with grains and they don’t have the phyates that whole grains do that prevent mineral absorption. So, that doesn’t seem too bad. Then again, I ain’t no scientist so wtf do I know anyway?
With that said, most beans give people some wicked gas. There is some type of sugar that I am too lazy to look up that people are unable to digest, which is the cause of said gas. I would generally say that eating something that doesn’t agree with your digestive system is probably not good on a regular basis. Plus, while I sometimes enjoy ripping a good raunchy fart every now and then, I have no desire to be the smelly guy. So I personally generally avoid beans. In addition, peanuts are one of the most allergenic foods on the planet, and they are a legume. That doesn’t mean everybody needs to avoid peanuts at all costs, but I think it’s reasonable to assume that there is a range of allergenic responses and many people may have mild, but still slightly disruptive, responses to peanuts and/or other legumes.
So, my theory on that stuff is that I buy almond butter instead of peanut butter (because there isn’t much difference in taste and cost) and I never really buy beans at the food store to use when cooking at home. On the other hand, I’ll eat green beans as a side at a restaurant or if somebody else is cooking and I’ve been known to put down a pot of chili or three. From my Paleo-ish perspective, definitely not as “bad” as grains or HFCS, but not something to plan to eat with any regularity. [/quote]
How about the MILLIONS of us who do fine with peanut butter and beans for DECADES? You know, like most of our population!
Where’s the data showing most people “don’t do well” with legumes? Or grains and dairy for that matter? [/quote]
Not to get in an arguing match, but have their been many studies on people eating grains versus not eating grains or like studies with dairy?
I know many people on this very forum have expressed the change in their physique and health after eliminating grains and/or dairy. After doing it myself, I know it works for me and I bet it would work for most of the population. The caveman food source mentality just adds another interesting point.[/quote]
I’m not here to argue with anyone either, and perhaps I shouldn’t have made my initial statement about Paleo being cultish.
What I want to know is whether those people eliminated grains WHILE keeping calories the same! If eliminated grains from my current diet, and didn’t make up for that calories provided by them, I might look better because I’d lose fat because of caloric reduction.
Did these people eliminate grains and dairy AND make up for the calories lost with more fat, fruits, and veggies?
