I prefer badger milk over muscle milk.
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
While this explanation makes perfect sense, I still AVOID foods such as doughnuts and other foods that have negligible amounts of nutrition. Empty calories may not be UNHEALTHY but they aren’t doing much other than adding to your total daily caloric intake. [/quote]
Many of us avoid certain foods. I don’t eat frenchfries even when gaining. If I do eat at a fast food place (something that is rare when dropping weight), it is usually Burger King and they take paper towels and press the grease out of each patty for me before putting it on the bun. I won’t be eating too many doughnuts, cakes or cupcakes unless it is a birthday party or a retirement and not at least getting a piece would be a sign of disrespect. It still pays to understand specifically why you may not eat this or that instead of putting entire foods under the label of “bad”. When skinny little guys start eating less food than bodybuilders dieting for contests…or when they start getting most of their meals from protein shakes as if real food is a negative, it is time for people to take a step back.
No one cares if you never eat a pizza if you also don’t even look like you lift weights. Why? because many guys who do look like they lift weights have knocked down a few pizzas in their life times.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No one cares if you never eat a pizza if you also don’t even look like you lift weights. Why? because many guys who do look like they lift weights have knocked down a few pizzas in their life times.[/quote]
This statement does not compute for me. Wha?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Because many guys who do look like they lift weights have knocked down a few pizzas in their life times.[/quote]
Well, I bet some guys who look pretty big and strong have hardly ever “knocked down” pizzas. Maybe in their youth, before they started to get serious. You can get those calories from “better” sources, so why not?
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
DtotheG wrote:
So should I go back to my usual PWO staples of Tuna Fish sandwiches, Chili and chicken mixed w a bit of Ramen and veggies?
That just Crazy Talk!
Easting food for nutrition?
Crazy! [/quote]
I meant I usually have PWO RTDs in ADDITION to all that.
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Because many guys who do look like they lift weights have knocked down a few pizzas in their life times.
Well, I bet some guys who look pretty big and strong have hardly ever “knocked down” pizzas. Maybe in their youth, before they started to get serious. You can get those calories from “better” sources, so why not? [/quote]
None that I know.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
dhuge67 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Because many guys who do look like they lift weights have knocked down a few pizzas in their life times.
Well, I bet some guys who look pretty big and strong have hardly ever “knocked down” pizzas. Maybe in their youth, before they started to get serious. You can get those calories from “better” sources, so why not?
None that I know.[/quote]
So you can only get big, strong, and lean by eating pizza? lol
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Because many guys who do look like they lift weights have knocked down a few pizzas in their life times.
Well, I bet some guys who look pretty big and strong have hardly ever “knocked down” pizzas. Maybe in their youth, before they started to get serious. You can get those calories from “better” sources, so why not? [/quote]
Are you serious? I am sure they don’t avoid pizza like the plague either.
If you have a high % of muscle mass some pizza ain’t going to kill you
Wait… did you just say Muscle Milk is high in fat??
I gotta get me some! What kind of fat is it? (anyone got a container with the label nearby?)
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
So you can only get big, strong, and lean by eating pizza? lol
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What is wrong with pizza? As long as its not the staple of your diet… its just a source of calories.
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
Well, I bet some guys who look pretty big and strong have hardly ever “knocked down” pizzas. Maybe in their youth, before they started to get serious. You can get those calories from “better” sources, so why not? [/quote]
In theory (and on internet forums), one would only consume the most nutrient-dense foods at every feeding while consistently meeting their daily kcal requirements.
But in the real world, with its time-consuming responsibilities (jobs, careers) and where you actually do the eating, you just get those kcals as best you can.
You haven’t had to try getting those 4000 kcals everyday from those “better” sources yet, have you?
Warm beer and cold pizza…the breakfast of champions the world over.
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
dhuge67 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Because many guys who do look like they lift weights have knocked down a few pizzas in their life times.
Well, I bet some guys who look pretty big and strong have hardly ever “knocked down” pizzas. Maybe in their youth, before they started to get serious. You can get those calories from “better” sources, so why not?
None that I know.
So you can only get big, strong, and lean by eating pizza? lol
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You can’t be this basic. The more muscle you carry, the more calories you need. I don’t know very many guys weighing over 220lbs relatively lean (at average height for the dummies) who act like pizza will kill them. There may be a reason why people who think like you never get that big. Also, how retarded would someone have to be to think this means someone is advocating eating pizza daily?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
dhuge67 wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
dhuge67 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Because many guys who do look like they lift weights have knocked down a few pizzas in their life times.
Well, I bet some guys who look pretty big and strong have hardly ever “knocked down” pizzas. Maybe in their youth, before they started to get serious. You can get those calories from “better” sources, so why not?
None that I know.
So you can only get big, strong, and lean by eating pizza? lol
You can’t be this basic. The more muscle you carry, the more calories you need. I don’t know very many guys weighing over 220lbs relatively lean (at average height for the dummies) who act like pizza will kill them. There may be a reason why people who think like you never get that big. Also, how retarded would someone have to be to think this means someone is advocating eating pizza daily?[/quote]
I’m glad I’m not the only one that sees pizza (maybe chicken and broccoli) as really convenient and relatively cheap bulking food.
You don’t have to be genius to break down the term “bodybuilding” into it’s two root words.
And on that note, I’ll easily give up some “washboard” for the ability of the general public to be able to tell I workout when I’m in street clothes.
Muscle Milk is for people who haven’t discovered meat.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
dhuge67 wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
dhuge67 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Because many guys who do look like they lift weights have knocked down a few pizzas in their life times.
Well, I bet some guys who look pretty big and strong have hardly ever “knocked down” pizzas. Maybe in their youth, before they started to get serious. You can get those calories from “better” sources, so why not?
None that I know.
So you can only get big, strong, and lean by eating pizza? lol
You can’t be this basic. The more muscle you carry, the more calories you need. I don’t know very many guys weighing over 220lbs relatively lean (at average height for the dummies) who act like pizza will kill them. There may be a reason why people who think like you never get that big. Also, how retarded would someone have to be to think this means someone is advocating eating pizza daily?[/quote]I’d be 20-30 lbs heavier if I didn’t run so much. It has nothing to do with pizza or shitty bulking foods. As it is now, I weigh 170 at 5’7. I look like I lift and I never eat pizza.
[quote]sharetrader wrote:
Muscle Milk is for people who haven’t discovered meat.[/quote]
Do you feel the same way about all protein powder?
[quote]nargoth16 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
No one cares if you never eat a pizza if you also don’t even look like you lift weights. Why? because many guys who do look like they lift weights have knocked down a few pizzas in their life times.
This statement does not compute for me. Wha?[/quote]
What doesn’t compute? You weigh 150lbs. You have also claimed in the past that you have trouble eating real food. By any chance do you think the fact that you are 150lbs goes hand in hand with your avoidance of real significant calories daily? What was written above means that no one cares how “clean” you claim to eat if you show little to no progress from it. There are people who don’t eat that “clean” (a word that has apparently changed lately into meaning “mostly meal replacements”) who focus on simply getting enough calories down who ARE making progress in the weight room.
If by chance you can get all of your calories from rice cakes and chicken breasts, continue to do so. That becomes much harder to do when you actually get “big”…something no one weighing 150lbs has any clue about.
This is bodybuilding. This is not a contest to see who can eat the most bland food with the least amount of calories every single day. It seems some of you are confused about that. You eat in a way that gives results and extreme changes are not seen with extremely restrictive diets that barely allow any growth to occur at all.
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
I’d be 20-30 lbs heavier if I didn’t run so much. It has nothing to do with pizza or shitty bulking foods. As it is now, I weigh 170 at 5’7. I look like I lift and I never eat pizza.
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Good for you. Do you want an award? You are 170lbs. Tell us about how you never eat any high calorie foods like that when you actually weigh that “20-30lbs heavier”. I do believe you have missed the point and I doubt anyone has the time to get you to see what people are saying.
Someone stupid would believe the message is to go eat pizza right now. Someone smarter would understand what is really being said.
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
sharetrader wrote:
Muscle Milk is for people who haven’t discovered meat.
Do you feel the same way about all protein powder? [/quote]
Yup. But if you don’t agree, that’s cool.