[quote]conservativedog wrote:
STFU you little punk ass liar. You’d fuck up a free lunch.
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Overfiend said the same thing before. You really aren’t unconvincing me.
Lol here comes the anger. I have no idea what he is talking about with the Overfiend thing though, I’ve never called him that nor have any idea what it was.
Think the roids are starting to get to you though C-dog. Might be time to go off cycle!
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
You know, no matter how racist or James Bondian you might be, you know that I will shit on you sideways if you post something idiotic, right?
So, if you are so inclined to post something in that general area, it would not hurt to put a bit of thought into it.
Just saying.[/quote]
…are your other 23 THOUSAND POSTS as ambiguous
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I dunno.
Its in the eyes of the beholder.
I am just longing for an intelligent racist, is all.
Please dont dissapoint me.
Please?
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
STFU you little punk ass liar. You’d fuck up a free lunch.
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Overfiend said the same thing before. You really aren’t unconvincing me. [/quote]
Mebbe, dont care.
What is interesting about ConservativeDogs post though, as well as Ruffians ( who is under the American Native Force Shield Mark IV), is that yes, African Americans commit a disproportionate number of crimes, mostly to each other, and there seem to flash mobs coming together to “hurt Whitey” for whatever reason.
Now, historical oppression, fine, institutionalzed racism, um, meh, but when a group of people comes after me or mine, thats when I reach for my revolver.
Which is a Moby song by the way.
Happyness is a warm gun would be a Beatle song.
Because the thing I learned from Alabama lynchings is not that I should shut up and take it because of the color of my skin, it rather would be that I aint swingin from that tree if I can help it.
[quote]orion wrote:
Now, historical oppression, fine, institutionalzed racism, um, meh
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The latter is indeed meh. The former is important, mostly–only, really–because of its bearing on contemporary socioeconomic demographics, which is where the meat of the matter is.
Either that, or Cdog believes that pigments make people violent.
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Now, historical oppression, fine, institutionalzed racism, um, meh
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The latter is indeed meh. The former is important, mostly–only, really–because of its bearing on contemporary socioeconomic demographics, which is where the meat of the matter is.
Either that, or Cdog believes that pigments make people violent.[/quote]
But the effect on contemporary socioeconomic demographics cannot possibly be as it is uually described.
I mean, slavery, yeah, but Asian immigrants fell off the boats and opened a laundry service or a restaurant at the point of impact.
Their kids went to college, thank you very much.
Its not as if Afro-Americans were not on the right track themselves, the attempts from keeping them from voting in the South by literacy requirements were met with an amount of schooling you would not believe, former slaves sat next to children, not knowing whether their school would be burned down by the Klan.
What happened?
That "woe is me " attitude never was adopted by actual, former slaves, nor their children, this whole victim crapola is early 70s, tops.
Where does the violence come from, they rip each other apart?
Why are people like Cosby or Sowell, who would be role models in any other community, called Uncle Toms?
I mean, if you develop a culture that actively rejects most forms of success, shits on people who made it other than in sports or music and takes Baby Mammahood for granted what the hell do you expect?
Its not entirely magic either, if you have a mother that is a teacher and a father that is a preacher who both kind of care that you do your fucking homework you just might become a giant dentist, no matter how dark you are.
Ohhhm, racism…
No, ohh, willfull ignorance.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Now, historical oppression, fine, institutionalzed racism, um, meh
[/quote]
The latter is indeed meh. The former is important, mostly–only, really–because of its bearing on contemporary socioeconomic demographics, which is where the meat of the matter is.
Either that, or Cdog believes that pigments make people violent.[/quote]
But the effect on contemporary socioeconomic demographics cannot possibly be as it is uually described.
I mean, slavery, yeah, but Asian immigrants fell off the boats and opened a laundry service or a restaurant at the point of impact.
Their kids went to college, thank you very much.
Its not as if Afro-Americans were not on the right track themselves, the attempts from keeping them from voting in the South by literacy requirements were met with an amount of schooling you would not believe, former slaves sat next to children, not knowing whether their school would be burned down by the Klan.
What happened?
That "woe is me " attitude never was adopted by actual, former slaves, nor their children, this whole victim crapola is early 70s, tops.
Where does the violence come from, they rip each other apart?
Why are people like Cosby or Sowell, who would be role models in any other community, called Uncle Toms?
I mean, if you develop a culture that actively rejects most forms of success, shits on people who made it other than in sports or music and takes Baby Mammahood for granted what the hell do you expect?
Its not entirely magic either, if you have a mother that is a teacher and a father that is a preacher who both kind of care that you do your fucking homework you just might become a giant dentist, no matter how dark you are.
Ohhhm, racism…
No, ohh, willfull ignorance.
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Waidmanns (Weissmanns?) heil!
Seriously, though. Good post. Nobody else will say so, but I will.
With the possible caveat that the culture of celebrating thuggery and mediocrity that you describe may not in fact have been developed by blacks all by themselves, but rather foist upon them by a cynical Democratic party in collusion with corporate media, in a conscious effort to keep them ignorant, violent, dependent, and ultimately, irrelevant.
AAAAND also to keep the prison industrial complex thriving, to assure with absolute certainty the
constant line of fresh Black inmates entering their facilities, AAND also ironically to REDUCE their population
through abortion…ANNNND also to keep Marvin Gaye’s over 40 Year old song ‘‘What’s Going On’’ from ever, EVER becoming
out of style, at ANY cost…EVER…for all eternity.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Now, historical oppression, fine, institutionalzed racism, um, meh
[/quote]
The latter is indeed meh. The former is important, mostly–only, really–because of its bearing on contemporary socioeconomic demographics, which is where the meat of the matter is.
Either that, or Cdog believes that pigments make people violent.[/quote]
But the effect on contemporary socioeconomic demographics cannot possibly be as it is uually described.
I mean, slavery, yeah, but Asian immigrants fell off the boats and opened a laundry service or a restaurant at the point of impact.
Their kids went to college, thank you very much.
Its not as if Afro-Americans were not on the right track themselves, the attempts from keeping them from voting in the South by literacy requirements were met with an amount of schooling you would not believe, former slaves sat next to children, not knowing whether their school would be burned down by the Klan.
What happened?
That "woe is me " attitude never was adopted by actual, former slaves, nor their children, this whole victim crapola is early 70s, tops.
Where does the violence come from, they rip each other apart?
Why are people like Cosby or Sowell, who would be role models in any other community, called Uncle Toms?
I mean, if you develop a culture that actively rejects most forms of success, shits on people who made it other than in sports or music and takes Baby Mammahood for granted what the hell do you expect?
Its not entirely magic either, if you have a mother that is a teacher and a father that is a preacher who both kind of care that you do your fucking homework you just might become a giant dentist, no matter how dark you are.
Ohhhm, racism…
No, ohh, willfull ignorance.
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You make some good points, but none of this lends any weight to the white supremacist argument that blacks are genetically predisposed to criminality and therefore inherently inferior to other races.
Blacks may have been on a better track in the late 19th century–in many ways, we all were–but that they started complaining a lot more than they used to in the '70s doesn’t mean that things were all that great for them prior to that. The simple fact is that a slave lives in abject poverty and in general abject poverty is highly transmissible from father to son and mother to daughter. Most of them stayed dirt fucking poor for an entire century. Them along comes welfare and the general clusterfuck that is life in modern America and voila.
Also, there are a number of other factors. There was a paper written a while back about the amount of time it took for the culture of servility to wear off from black America. A hundred years isn’t a long time. Freed slaves whose livelihoods had depended almost entirely on their ability to not offend–to obey–begot children who weren’t dissimilar. Fast forward a few generations and now you’ve got the obedience angle all but worn away and a bunch of young black guys looking around and thinking, “well ain’t this a bunch of bullshit.”
Anyway, as I say: say you told me about two hypothetical races of people. One of 'em lived, relatively affluent and unprecedentedly free, a decent and happy little existence. The other lived not as human beings but as chattel: denied their humanity and sold as property at best, beaten whipped branded raped and murdered at worst. The beginning of their tenure as property was marked by being literally piled into the middle of a ship and then chained to boards so that when their family members were dying by way of expelling gallons of bloody diarrhea, they could not even move enough to avoid being covered by it. It didn’t get much easier from there on out.
So, say you tell me about these two races, and then say you throw in a couple of lines of explanation about oppression even after emancipation–about good 'ole Jim Crow and about the Klan and about lynchings–and then you get into the welfare state and how, halfway through the 20th century, poor people were sudddenly granted the gift of being able to live a meager but passable life of complete and utter idleness. So, you tell me all that, and then you say to me:
“One of these races is doing a lot better than the other these days.” And then you tell me to guess which is which.
I bet I’d get it right.
[quote]orion wrote:
thats when I reach for my revolver.
Which is a Moby song by the way.
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It’s a Mission of Burma song.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
With the possible caveat that the culture of celebrating thuggery and mediocrity that you describe may not in fact have been developed by blacks all by themselves, but rather foist upon them by a cynical Democratic party in collusion with corporate media, in a conscious effort to keep them ignorant, violent, dependent, and ultimately, irrelevant.
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Yep.
And it’s been done before.
I need think no farther than my people (Mescalero Apache) who happened to be such assholes we never did well on proper reservations (generally killing Comanche and vice-versa) that they decided to “punish” us by not giving us aid. The result was we farmed, built a ski lodge, went to work in the oilfields of Texas and New Mexico and are generally pretty prosperous compared to most people. Yes, we have our reservation alcoholics, but they are a distinct minority-of-minority.
I will compare us to our formerly richer neighbors down the highway, the Zuni. They were richer, more powerful than us, and generally bad asses. They got on the government dole about 1880 and now the Zuni reservation is the most pathetic place in the USA. Want to see literally drunk Indians from the most racist comic book come to life? Go to the Zuni reservation. The liberals from Sante Fe wanted the Zunis to preserve “their way of life” instead of working in the evil oil field, so they got them grants.
Now lilly-white liberals from Sante Fe can come in their Mercedes and tour the same shitty houses the Zuni had while the Zuni practice their pagan animist religion (still the dominant religion — liberals also made sure churches, in particular, Protestant Churches had to get permits to come and talk religion to the Zuni).
So the formerly brave Zuni are preserved in their squalor, er, I mean “culture” for the benefit of Sante Fe liberals while the rate of alcoholism among adults is 85% and girls should expect to get regularly raped starting about 11 or 12. Have kids from 3 or 4 baby daddys by 20.
Anyway, the preservation of “black culture” at the expense of getting ahead is fucking stupid.
The blame falls squarely on Lyndon Johnson, a foul racist of a man, who cynically designed the “Great Society” handouts, affirmative action, handpicked “black leaders” (read: house niggers) like Jessie Jackson and his ilk to keep the black man down with smooth words and dependence.
The Democrat plan worked, and is creating a slow-motion Holocaust of the blacks, just as foul and nasty as what happend to the Zuni, the Jews, and everyone else the socialist want to get rid of.
[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
I’m interested as to why this isn’t national news either. This is a mass shooting is it not?[/quote]
There is a double standard in the media. Racism of low expectations.
That was the intent behind my posts of similar events.
Yeah well, that very well may be, but is there a country that’s less ‘‘racist’’ than the USA?
if there is, let us know…Racism and prejudice is a worldwide thing…pick a better country,
not to put a ‘pretty face’ on America, we’ve done some fucked up things, but again…pick a better country,…there isn’t.
Unless you found one we don’t know about.
[quote]Karado wrote:
Yeah well, that very well may be, but is there a country that’s less ‘‘racist’’ than the USA?
if there is, let us know…Racism and prejudice is a worldwide thing…pick a better country,
not to put a ‘pretty face’ on America, we’ve done some fucked up things, but again…pick a better country,…there isn’t.
Unless you found one we don’t know about.[/quote]
Most countries are more homogenous than the US, so you would have a hard time playing identity politics based on race.
What has two thumbs and would pay good money to see conservativedog’s face when his daughter shows up to dinner with her new black boyfriend one day?
This guy.
[quote]Waittz wrote:
What has two thumbs and would pay good money to see conservativedog’s face when his daughter shows up to dinner with her new black boyfriend one day?
This guy. [/quote]
How do you know he is not black?
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
What has two thumbs and would pay good money to see conservativedog’s face when his daughter shows up to dinner with her new black boyfriend one day?
This guy. [/quote]
How do you know he is not black?
[/quote]
point well made
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
What has two thumbs and would pay good money to see conservativedog’s face when his daughter shows up to dinner with her new black boyfriend one day?
This guy. [/quote]
How do you know he is not black?
[/quote]
point well made[/quote]
That is one of the funniest Dave Chappell skits of all time.
Spaced Out Orion typed: “Most countries are more homogenous than the US, so you would have a hard time playing identity politics based on race.”
Not all countries need to be “homogenous” to compare the level of racism the U.S. has compared to other
places that are ‘mixed’ a little…human nature is human nature no matter where the fuck you live,
there’s noticeably less of it HERE…again, not to put rose colored glasses on America, but pick a better
country.
South Africa, European Soccer Fans that are known to openly make ‘‘monkey noises’’ en masse when Black Soccer
players perform on the field, and try and find '‘Indian’ looking newscasters and Soap Opera actors in Mexico and in
all of Latin America…they almost always pick the European ‘‘Spaniard’’ looking ones…etc. etc.
Different kinds of racism all over the world… If there was huge
immigration of Thousands of Blacks to Japan, how welcoming do you think the Japanese would be toward them
at first? Would they welcome them with open arms and attempt to see them as equals?..Ask Varq or Cortes that one.
[quote]Karado wrote:
Spaced Out Orion typed: “Most countries are more homogenous than the US, so you would have a hard time playing identity politics based on race.”
Not all countries need to be “homogenous” to compare the level of racism the U.S. has compared to other
places that are ‘mixed’ a little…human nature is human nature no matter where the fuck you live,
there’s noticeably less of it HERE…again, not to put rose colored glasses on America, but pick a better
country.
South Africa, European Soccer Fans that are known to openly make ‘‘monkey noises’’ en masse when Black Soccer
players perform on the field, and try and find '‘Indian’ looking newscasters and Soap Opera actors in Mexico and in
all of Latin America…they almost always pick the European ‘‘Spaniard’’ looking ones…etc. etc.
Different kinds of racism all over the world… If there was huge
immigration of Thousands of Blacks to Japan, how welcoming do you think the Japanese would be toward them
at first? Would they welcome them with open arms and attempt to see them as equals?..Ask Varq or Cortes that one.[/quote]
Thats not the point.
There is simply no critical mass that can swing elections in those countries alive.
There is nothing to gain from creating perpetual victims based on race.