I workout because I want to know that no matter what, I can survive. There are some circumstances beyond my control, but I can control pushing iron.
I don’t workout because I don’t feel the need that day, or other things take priority.
Mediocrity, self-pity and weakness irk me. If you don’t want to workout that’s fine, but don’t expect me to shower you with, “Gee, that’s okay, it sure is hard!”
But if you aspire to be truly outstanding at something and work your ass off to get there I’m not going to belittle that by going, “Pfft, but bro, your legs are like toothpicks, squat moar!”
[quote]DJHT wrote:
Sorry man the human race has become a bunch of lazy, pampered, self-indulgent, and entitled people. At least in non-3rd world countries. Hate to ask but how old are you?[/quote]
I’m 24
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Do you really find it hard to believe that some human beings have other interests than yours?
Really?[/quote]
well, yours as well.
I;m not talking about interests, if you have the opportunity to be a better you, why not do it?
[/quote]
Not everyone sees this as a path to a better them.
Regardless, would most of us be doing what we do to be a better us if we didn’t purely love what we do? I doubt that I would. I’m not driven by some smug idea that I’m being ‘good’ or ‘better’ to myself like taking a multi vitamin. I’m driven by my desire to win. The rest is a nice bonus.
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]dshroy wrote:
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
It’s too hard/takes too long[/quote]
sex?![/quote]
Pardon?[/quote]
thats what she said?
I remember a point when I was doing nothing but the stairmaster
Kheaslim put me in my place pretty damn quick
Deadlifts changed my life
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Not everyone sees this as a path to a better them.
Regardless, would most of us be doing what we do to be a better us if we didn’t purely love what we do? I doubt that I would. I’m not driven by some smug idea that I’m being ‘good’ or ‘better’ to myself like taking a multi vitamin. I’m driven by my desire to win. The rest is a nice bonus.[/quote]
True that. Do what you do because you love what you do. Striving to better yourself is ambition. Expecting others to better themselves is self-righteousness.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
I can’t even count the number of times people have said to me, ‘‘why do spend so much time in the gym? Why do you need to be strong? So what if you dead lift xxx or bench xxx’’.
I’m guessing everyone here who lifts has had these questions before and have answered them accordingly.
But what i wana know is why don’t those people work out?
I see guys walking round weighting 120, - 150 with stupid fucking Bieber hair cuts and skinny jeans thinking to myself:
Why the hell don’t you wana be stronger?
Why don’t you wana look better?
Why don’t you wana be healthier?
I’m sure there will be a day when you’ll have to move a washing machine or a sofa or a fridge and you’ll be disappointed with yourself.
I just don’t understand how every able bodied person who can afford it doesn’t work out.[/quote]
None of my friends lift weights. It’s not fun for them. They’re busy, married, have kids and focus on their family. If they want to be healthier they’ll take their kids to the park or play basketball; activities that they enjoy. They are comfortable the way they look and have no need to be stronger.
As far as being healthier goes, if I was worried about that I’d keep the weights a lot lighter, intensity lower and bodyweight lower as well. I for one don’t lift weights for my health and as an IT guy, can’t say getting stronger has been practical in life. I strive to get stronger just because I like to challenge myself. Other people have their own ways of challenging themselves. Personally, I don’t judge them for it.
[quote]gregron wrote:
laziness/lack of desire[/quote]
Yep
People’s interests are different, this is true. Although when people smugly bring up my gym habits/physique the tend to tell me “I don’t have any desire to be muscular or ripped or anything like that.” Bullshit. Noone looks at a muscular guy in shape and thinks “wow wouldn’t it suck to be that guy.” Any human being that tells you they wouldn’t like a chance to be a little more fit, or for that matter a little more intelligent or a little more compassionate or a little better in any way, is either lying or a cretin.
The may not want to put in the hours, which is a different story altogether and one I can totally understand. I have many a time told myself that progress was coming too slow, that it was time to quit. Building muscle is a long, slow, often painful crawl. It’s drops in a bucket. For me it is worth it; for some it isn’t. But don’t tell me you have no desire to be strong and healthy and masculine and attractive.
I would love to speak Chinese. At the moment I don’t have the time to begin learning another language, but I’m not gonna pretend I don’t want to and I’m certainly not gonna try to belittle those who did find the time.
[quote]
As far as being healthier goes, if I was worried about that I’d keep the weights a lot lighter, intensity lower and bodyweight lower as well. I for one don’t lift weights for my health and as an IT guy, can’t say getting stronger has been practical in life. I strive to get stronger just because I like to challenge myself. Other people have their own ways of challenging themselves. Personally, I don’t judge them for it.[/quote]
This is another good point. I would guess that the argument of " being healthier " can’t be applied to 90% of the people on this forum. I doubt very much that weighing over 200+lbs, deadlifting 400+lbs, and eating 4000cals+/day is very beneficial to long term health. I still do it anyways, not because of any illusion that it’s good for me but because it’s fun.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
People’s interests are different, this is true. Although when people smugly bring up my gym habits/physique the tend to tell me “I don’t have any desire to be muscular or ripped or anything like that.” Bullshit. Noone looks at a muscular guy in shape and thinks “wow wouldn’t it suck to be that guy.” Any human being that tells you they wouldn’t like a chance to be a little more fit, or for that matter a little more intelligent or a little more compassionate or a little better in any way, is either lying or a cretin.
The may not want to put in the hours, which is a different story altogether and one I can totally understand. I have many a time told myself that progress was coming too slow, that it was time to quit. Building muscle is a long, slow, often painful crawl. It’s drops in a bucket. For me it is worth it; for some it isn’t. But don’t tell me you have no desire to be strong and healthy and masculine and attractive.
I would love to speak Chinese. At the moment I don’t have the time to begin learning another language, but I’m not gonna pretend I don’t want to and I’m certainly not gonna try to belittle those who did find the time.[/quote]
Good point about people looking at muscular people and thinking that it’d suck to look like that guy.
But if people don’t have time then that’s another story
Why don’t you think about retirement? Do you have a tax deferred retirement account? Not everybody wants/needs to look/feel strong. EVERYBODY needs money for food, shelter, entertainment, ummm gym membership, supps, etc…
Not directed at anybody. I know I didn’t think about retirement until I realized I’m not gonna be 22 forever.
Point being people don’t think about things until they have to or someone else directs them there.
There are different sorts of physical strength, also. I’d put this guy up against any huge motherf***er in the gym as far as being able to work his ass off, withstand some serious punishment, and being an amazing physical specimen is concerned.
Next time you see a skinny guy and rush to judgment, be sure that he’s not someone who could kick your a** in some other physical competition.
Was i dissing all people not huge? I was using size as example, but not as a sweeping statement. Obviously the guy above trains.
You dick.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Was i dissing all people not huge? I was using size as example, but not as a sweeping statement. Obviously the guy above trains.
You dick.[/quote]
Here’s what you said in the OP:
"I see guys walking round weighting 120, - 150 with stupid fucking Bieber hair cuts and skinny jeans thinking to myself:
Why the hell don’t you wana be stronger?
Why don’t you wana look better?
Why don’t you wana be healthier? "
I wasn’t trying to be a dick–I was just saying that you shouldn’t be so quick to judge. Here’s another great example–if you saw someone like Rupp in the street, you would probably think exactly the same thing you said in your OP. Same with someone built like Bekele.
I don’t know who Rupp and Bekele are, but i assume they are the guys above.
I’m pretty sure they don’t have bieber cuts and skinny jeans as well.
This was just an example for people who don’t train,
Why the hell don’t you wana be stronger?
Why don’t you wana look better?
Why don’t you wana be healthier? "
I wasn’t implying that all small people don’t train, i was using size as a physical example of people who don’t.
I respect all athletes.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
People’s interests are different, this is true. Although when people smugly bring up my gym habits/physique the tend to tell me “I don’t have any desire to be muscular or ripped or anything like that.” Bullshit. Noone looks at a muscular guy in shape and thinks “wow wouldn’t it suck to be that guy.” Any human being that tells you they wouldn’t like a chance to be a little more fit, or for that matter a little more intelligent or a little more compassionate or a little better in any way, is either lying or a cretin.
The may not want to put in the hours, which is a different story altogether and one I can totally understand. I have many a time told myself that progress was coming too slow, that it was time to quit. Building muscle is a long, slow, often painful crawl. It’s drops in a bucket. For me it is worth it; for some it isn’t. But don’t tell me you have no desire to be strong and healthy and masculine and attractive.
I would love to speak Chinese. At the moment I don’t have the time to begin learning another language, but I’m not gonna pretend I don’t want to and I’m certainly not gonna try to belittle those who did find the time.[/quote]
This is the OP’s point, I think, put much more clearly. Fucking EVERYBODY would LIKE to look better. Not everyone wants to be huge, but I don’t know a single guy that wouldn’t like to be more muscular and a little (or a lot) leaner than he is now. I don’t know a single female that wouldn’t like to lose a few pounds, whether they need to or not.
There are many, many reasons why these people don’t take on the endeavor of improving their physical appearance. Perceived lack of time, lack of confidence in their ability to elicit a change (probably the biggest one), and laziness are just a few, but when it all comes down to it they just don’t want it bad enough.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
People’s interests are different, this is true. Although when people smugly bring up my gym habits/physique the tend to tell me “I don’t have any desire to be muscular or ripped or anything like that.” Bullshit. Noone looks at a muscular guy in shape and thinks “wow wouldn’t it suck to be that guy.” Any human being that tells you they wouldn’t like a chance to be a little more fit, or for that matter a little more intelligent or a little more compassionate or a little better in any way, is either lying or a cretin.
The may not want to put in the hours, which is a different story altogether and one I can totally understand. I have many a time told myself that progress was coming too slow, that it was time to quit. Building muscle is a long, slow, often painful crawl. It’s drops in a bucket. For me it is worth it; for some it isn’t. But don’t tell me you have no desire to be strong and healthy and masculine and attractive.
I would love to speak Chinese. At the moment I don’t have the time to begin learning another language, but I’m not gonna pretend I don’t want to and I’m certainly not gonna try to belittle those who did find the time.[/quote]
This is the OP’s point, I think, put much more clearly. Fucking EVERYBODY would LIKE to look better. Not everyone wants to be huge, but I don’t know a single guy that wouldn’t like to be more muscular and a little (or a lot) leaner than he is now. I don’t know a single female that wouldn’t like to lose a few pounds, whether they need to or not.
There are many, many reasons why these people don’t take on the endeavor of improving their physical appearance. Perceived lack of time, lack of confidence in their ability to elicit a change (probably the biggest one), and laziness are just a few, but when it all comes down to it they just don’t want it bad enough.[/quote]
Thank you very much, i was never good with words but your spot on.
I mean who doesn’t wana look better? All the women who look at vogue or whatever shit they read these days, sayin how much they wana look like jessica alba or megan fox or something, all the while sat in Starbucks with a full fat mocha latte frapucino with extra lard and eating a doughnut!
Or the guys who see The Rock in a moive and secretly think to themselves i wish i could look like that then actively don’t do anything to achieve it!!
Not everyone.
Some guys are naturally very lean at normal weight with little to no physical activity.
I have a couple friends like that, who couldn’t care less about such pursuits. They don’t want to be bigger either.