[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
At least Sloth had the guts to admit he flat out wouldn’t read any contradictory evidence on the other thread.
Gambit, you know this isn’t true. I told you multiple times to provide your links WITHIN your own arguments. To provide whatever sources you thought neccessary to back YOURSELF up. Quotes, sources, links, and whatever else. Repeatedly. Don’t bring me into this, just to lie about our exchange. An exchange preserved here on the forum, of course.
I had utterly given up on you based on your complete disregard for fields of study, but thought I’d give it one more chance. I asked you flat out if you would read information. You said “no” and made a this straw man about not making arguments. You then threw some tantrum about something you, apparently, perceived I was saying. You still haven’t answered what the hell you were talking about.
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Ya know what the difference between you and some of us is? You cannot entertain the possibility of your guy being wrong. I sat with my head in my hands sometimes over some of the things Bush was doing and saying because I don’t have “a guy”. I have principles and consider someone right or wrong based on what stand they take on those principles.
Obama is not only a communist, he isn’t even good at it. He is a rank amateur at everything except delivering a teleprompted speech. It’s OK, you can face it. You’ll be better off for it in the long run.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
I asked you flat out if you would read information. You said “no” and made a this straw man about not making arguments. You then threw some tantrum about something you, apparently, perceived I was saying. You still haven’t answered what the hell you were talking about.
I’m confident about my view of how the “conversation” went. The thread is obviously open to anyone who’d like to judge for themselves, if they feel the need to.[/quote]
Why do you think anyone cares what you and I say to one another? Also, why do you care what others think?
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Why do you think anyone cares what you and I say to one another? Also, why do you care what others think?
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Take a deep breath. Go over to the window. Is there a peaceful relaxing scene outside? Good, good. Now feel your pulse slacken, and your heart rate slow to normal. Let the rage flow out of you, and your tunneled vision expand. Now reread this question.
Now, consider that it was you, and not I, who dragged our conversation from an entirely unrelated thread, into this one. Get some sleep. When you’re up in the morning–after a nourishing breakfast, hopefully–please do visit again.
Ya know what the difference between you and some of us is? You cannot entertain the possibility of your guy being wrong. I sat with my head in my hands sometimes over some of the things Bush was doing and saying because I don’t have “a guy”. I have principles and consider someone right or wrong based on what stand they take on those principles.
Obama is not only a communist, he isn’t even good at it. He is a rank amateur at everything except delivering a teleprompted speech. It’s OK, you can face it. You’ll be better off for it in the long run.[/quote]
What exactly is it about my making fun of the–what does Irish call it–Blowjob Barn in this thread makes you think I can’t “entertain the possibility of [my] guy being wrong?”
You guys have got your “hate Obama” thread going here; I’m just pointing out the rather obvious.
But keep swinging guys. This is a great distraction from the work I’ve got to do tonight.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Why do you think anyone cares what you and I say to one another? Also, why do you care what others think?
Take a deep breath. Go over to the window. Is there a peaceful relaxing scene outside? Good, good. Now feel your pulse slacken, and your heart rate slow to normal. Let the rage flow out of you, and your tunneled vision expand.
Now reread this question. Now, consider that it was you, and not I, who dragged our conversation from an entirely unrelated thread, into this one. Get some sleep. When you’re up in the morning–after a nourishing breakfast, hopefully–please do visit again. [/quote]
That is a good point. I’m am a bit tired and over-caffeinated tonight. But this thread kept me going through some monotony. I’ve got another hour or so of work to do. Anything else you’d like to talk about? Any other thread recommendations?
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Any other thread recommendations?[/quote]
Uh, FutureGL wants to introduce weightlifting to the people of developing nations. Others suggested that reliable access to food might be a priority before taking up weight-training. And Makavali, not on FutureGL’s thread, just posted something about an Amish guy (that’s my guess, Amish) pulling off a suicidal attack on a bus.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Any other thread recommendations?
Uh, FutureGL wants to introduce weightlifting to the people of developing nations. Others suggested that reliable access to food might be a priority before taking up weight-training. [/quote]
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Any other thread recommendations?
Uh, FutureGL wants to introduce weightlifting to the people of developing nations. Others suggested that reliable access to food might be a priority before taking up weight-training. And Makavali, not on FutureGL’s thread, just posted something about an Amish guy (that’s my guess, Amish) pulling off a suicidal attack on a bus.[/quote]
If Bush had done 1% of what Obama actualy HAS done…
Imagine if Bush had said: Cnn is not actually a news station…and then tried to ban them from the Whitehouse ppol…or said that other news groups should not treat them like they are real news?
Where are all the freespeech, conspircy moonbats now?
So making fun of adults who use the term “weenie” makes me a child, huh? I’m hurt. Really.[/quote]
You aren’t making fun of anyone. You aren’t doing anything, that’s the point. Perhaps you don’t like the term “weenie”, but there is a growing sense that Obama is the vacillating type - that isn’t a “hater” position, it’s being discussed on editorial pages all the time.
These are substantive issues, not “hatin’” - run along to your “work”.
“When it comes out of the White House, this Monday morning quarterbacking stuff before the election even happens, it’s devastating to the whole ticket,” said David “Mudcat” Saunders, a political strategist who worked to elect now-U.S. Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) governor in 2001 and Webb to the U.S. Senate in 2006. “I think Obama ought to find who did this to us, and I think he ought to fire 'em. It’s totally without character.”
Paul Goldman, a Richmond activist and former chairman of the Democratic Party of Virginia, called the tactics “bush league,” an attempt to send a message to Democrats about crossing the White House without regard to the damage it might cause the state party and its candidates.
[quote]Valor wrote:
If Bush had done 1% of what Obama actualy HAS done…
Imagine if Bush had said: Cnn is not actually a news station…and then tried to ban them from the Whitehouse ppol…or said that other news groups should not treat them like they are real news?
Where are all the freespeech, conspircy moonbats now?
Hypocrites.[/quote]
That is a very good point, by the time Bush was leaving, people loathed him more than ever. Obama did a great job of channeling this anger towards the Conservative/Republican movement and thinking “If I do the opposite of everything Bush did” I will get elected. People think this person or that person won the election for Obama. GW Bush really won it for Obama.
Bush had more criticism than any other president I have seen my lifetime, but still left people the right to their opinions. Had he said what Obama did of Fox News, he might have been laughed right out of the White House.
You need mighty thick skin to be POTUS, you need ice running in your veins, Obama has shown he does not have it.
Lots of hate for Obama from racists/Republicans than is necessary. George Bush wasn’t hated until most of the country realized that there was no reason to attack Iraq, then occupy it.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Producer wrote:
Lots of hate for Obama from racists/Republicans than is necessary. George Bush wasn’t hated until most of the country realized that there was no reason to attack Iraq, then occupy it.
[quote]Producer wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Producer wrote:
Lots of hate for Obama from Sane people. George Bush wasn’t hated until most of the country realized that there was no reason to bail out banks but he did it.
[quote]orion wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
If we ignore what is currently fashionable – and we must if we want to distinguish Newspeak from what words have generally meant – and instead focus on historical usage, you are wrong. Many, including Europeans, divided European “whites” into Nordic, Alpine, and Mediterranean races.
How does that help your argument?
To show that what was considered a different “race” a few hundred years ago is no longer seen that way just shows how malleable that term really is.
The only guys in Europe who obsessed about that stuff in Europe in the last 100 years have not the best reputation when it comes to the rational thought department.
They were snappy dressers though and knew how to keep a rhythm.