Why Does Everyone Hate Obama?

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Well, it would be great if you improved the quality then.

Perhaps you can tell us how in fact Obama is in disagreement with at least one of the planks of the Communist manifesto, for example, or give us good reason why his choices for three of his Czars are such that one has Mao as her “favorite political philosopher,” a second – in charge of Manufacturing, yet! – says the free market is nonsense and agrees with Mao that political power comes from the barrel of a gun, and a third is an avowed Communist as of as recently as the 1990’s?

However I shall leave it to you to provide the substantive reasons on the other side of this discussion. Surely you have them?

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[quote]JD430 wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
So Gambit, why don’t you give us some substantive discussion.

He never has and never will.

I mostly just read over the posts here anymore, and that is even much less often than it used to be. This is mainly because I am busy but also because discussion here can be pretty much spoiled when guys like him chime in with worthless juvenile commentary.
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On threads like this I tend to poke fun at the craziness going on. On others I try to insert research. Mostly I’m just blowing off steam and laughing. Where else could I turn to after dealing with a car salesman all day to find brilliant quotations like: “why don’t you just go build a mosque!”

With stuff like this, how could I stay away?

Substantive discussion on the “I hate Obama thread” … lol.

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What are you talking about?

I’ve given you several short and simple questions which are suited for some on-point and substantive arguments for the other side, if you have them. But you just slide out every time.

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Well, it would be great if you improved the quality then.

Perhaps you can tell us how in fact Obama is in disagreement with at least one of the planks of the Communist manifesto, [/quote]

You’re right, discussions about just how communist he is will go a long way. This argument is obviously measured and accurate. You’ve convinced me.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
Well, it would be great if you improved the quality then.

Perhaps you can tell us how in fact Obama is in disagreement with at least one of the planks of the Communist manifesto,

You’re right, discussions about just how communist he is will go a long way. This argument is obviously measured and accurate. You’ve convinced me.

[/quote]

No.

I gave you very simple and specific questions that should be suited to substantive answers.

If you disagree with my statement that Obama policies are never in disagreement with the Communist Manifesto, name us one – just one! – plank of the Communist Manifesto that Obama has shown disagreement with.

Why is that too hard for you?

Also see my question about the Czars.

Or about his actions with regard to Fox News.

Why can’t you give a substantive answer?

You sure have enough OTHER posts on this thread. It can’t be that it’s too hard to post.

But you certainly seem to find such questions far too hard to answer substantively.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:

Substantive discussion on the “I hate Obama thread” … lol.

C’mon, GL, I made a comment about the huge contrast between our first and current presidents and you started tearing your diaper off so you could scratch your pubic hives. It was not “craziness” to say I don’t hate Obama but find him light years away from Washington when it comes to toughness and mettle.[/quote]

Wait, so you think these comments like, “Obama is a pussy,” “he’s easy to despise,” and he’s a weenie" were “substantive?”

I guess I’m just not up for this kind of “substance.”

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
Well, it would be great if you improved the quality then.

Perhaps you can tell us how in fact Obama is in disagreement with at least one of the planks of the Communist manifesto,

You’re right, discussions about just how communist he is will go a long way. This argument is obviously measured and accurate. You’ve convinced me.

No.

I gave you very simple and specific questions that should be suited to substantive answers.

If you disagree with my statement that Obama policies are never in disagreement with the Communist Manifesto, name us one – just one! – plank of the Communist Manifesto that Obama has shown disagreement with.

Why is that too hard for you?

Also see my question about the Czars.

Or about his actions with regard to Fox News.

Why can’t you give a substantive answer?

You sure have enough OTHER posts on this thread. It can’t be that it’s too hard to post.

But you certainly seem to find such questions far too hard to answer substantively.[/quote]

You is very likely a racist.

If not a heretic.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:

Substantive discussion on the “I hate Obama thread” … lol.

C’mon, GL, I made a comment about the huge contrast between our first and current presidents and you started tearing your diaper off so you could scratch your pubic hives. It was not “craziness” to say I don’t hate Obama but find him light years away from Washington when it comes to toughness and mettle.

Wait, so you think these comments like, “Obama is a pussy,” “he’s easy to despise,” and he’s a weenie" were “substantive?”

I guess I’m just not up for this kind of “substance.”

Ahh…a cherrypicker ye be. “Easy to despise” because he’s a “thin-skinned pussy” was the quote - especially when comparing him to our first president. And I mentioned some study on my part of our first president thereby motivating me to draw the distinctions between the two. So when one puts all of what I wrote in context it sounds a bit different than the portions you cherrypicked, no?[/quote]

I “cherrypicked,” huh? What was your main point then, if not those? In context, how do you think these “substantive points” changed?

Really, I don’t deny that YOU think these are “substantive.” This is, in fact, exactly what I’m laughing about. You were/are a prime example of the silliness I’m discussing.

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
Well, it would be great if you improved the quality then.

Perhaps you can tell us how in fact Obama is in disagreement with at least one of the planks of the Communist manifesto,

You’re right, discussions about just how communist he is will go a long way. This argument is obviously measured and accurate. You’ve convinced me.

No.

I gave you very simple and specific questions that should be suited to substantive answers. [/quote]

True, and not loaded at all. By the way, since when am I obliged to answer silly, loaded questions? If you want to make a fairly absurd claim, why don’t you back it up?

[quote]If you disagree with my statement that Obama policies are never in disagreement with the Communist Manifesto, name us one – just one! – plank of the Communist Manifesto that Obama has shown disagreement with.

Why is that too hard for you?[/quote]

Not at all, why don’t you post one, ==just one!== example and I’ll take it from there.

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Also see my question about the Czars.

Or about his actions with regard to Fox News.

Why can’t you give a substantive answer?

You sure have enough OTHER posts on this thread. It can’t be that it’s too hard to post.

But you certainly seem to find such questions far too hard to answer substantively.[/quote]

Honestly because I don’t think you’ll listen. Let’s be blunt. This thread is a hate, hate, hate, hate (god I hate him!) thread. I’m not going to change your mind on a thread like this about anything.

As I recall, you’re the poster who keeps implying that Obama is not really an American, aren’t you? What would be the gain in an honest debate with you? At least Sloth had the guts to admit he flat out wouldn’t read any contradictory evidence on the other thread.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:

Substantive discussion on the “I hate Obama thread” … lol.

C’mon, GL, I made a comment about the huge contrast between our first and current presidents and you started tearing your diaper off so you could scratch your pubic hives. It was not “craziness” to say I don’t hate Obama but find him light years away from Washington when it comes to toughness and mettle.

Wait, so you think these comments like, “Obama is a pussy,” “he’s easy to despise,” and he’s a weenie" were “substantive?”

I guess I’m just not up for this kind of “substance.” [/quote]

How much reading have you done on the Revolution? Do you have any idea at all what Washington had to overcome during those years. It was not victory after victory on a sing song march to freedom. He faced more spine crushing adversity in 1777 than Obama has in his whole life. Even the enemy British press could not avoid extolling Washington’s character and strength as a commander.

Compared to him Barack Obama is a despicable pussified weenie and that’s about as substantive as a student of history can muster in his regard.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
Well, it would be great if you improved the quality then.

Perhaps you can tell us how in fact Obama is in disagreement with at least one of the planks of the Communist manifesto,

You’re right, discussions about just how communist he is will go a long way. This argument is obviously measured and accurate. You’ve convinced me.

No.

I gave you very simple and specific questions that should be suited to substantive answers.

True, and not loaded at all. By the way, since when am I obliged to answer silly, loaded questions? If you want to make a fairly absurd claim, why don’t you back it up? [/quote]

You’re not operating very logically.

I stated that Obama has not one policy or statement that is contrary to any of the planks of the Communist Manifesto.

What “back up” do you want? A dump of every single statement he has ever uttered in his life?

No. Rather, if my statement is untrue, it should be an absolute softball for you. All you have to do is post that one plank and give an Obama statement or policy that opposes it.

But somehow you aren’t able to do it, are you?

[quote]If you disagree with my statement that Obama policies are never in disagreement with the Communist Manifesto, name us one – just one! – plank of the Communist Manifesto that Obama has shown disagreement with.

Why is that too hard for you?

Not at all, why don’t you post one, ==just one!== example and I’ll take it from there.[/quote]

Um, you don’t seem to get it.

It’s not my job to post a plank that he disagrees with. I can’t post one plank of the Communist Manifesto that Obama has shown disagreement with. That’s my point.

Your chance at an actually substantive post is to show how actually there is one, if there is.

Should be easy enough if I’m wrong, but somehow you’re not finding it doable for you.

[quote]Also see my question about the Czars.

Or about his actions with regard to Fox News.

Why can’t you give a substantive answer?

You sure have enough OTHER posts on this thread. It can’t be that it’s too hard to post.

But you certainly seem to find such questions far too hard to answer substantively.

Honestly because I don’t think you’ll listen. Let’s be blunt. This thread is a hate, hate, hate, hate (god I hate him!) thread. I’m not going to change your mind on a thread like this about anything. [/quote]

Ah, that surely justifies your inability to provide a substantive answer to what should be softball questions, if the stated problems with Obama did not exist.

Wrong yet again. I have never said that. What I have said is that there is strong evidence that he has held Indonesian citizenship and none that he has ever revoked it, and therefore there is legitimate question as to whether he is a dual national.

I have also stated that his sealing, upon deciding to run for President, of very numerous documents that would ordinarily not be sealed, e.g. passport and college records, and absolutely unprecedented hiding of personal information by a Presidential candidate, strongly suggests that there is information in them that he did not want the voters to know. My stated best guess on that is that his records would prove he is a dual national, and exercised foreign citizenship as an adult.

Nice non-sequitur, by the way. I guess being unable to answer some simple questions with anything of any substance required a diversion?

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I’ll take ya one further Bill and ol lost boy here was the first to object when I said during the campaign that Barack Obama was an enemy of the United States.

How bout an old fashioned Aristotelian syllogism.

Major premise:

Communism is the ideology of most of the historical enemies of the United Sates.

Minor premise:

Barack Obama substantively concurs with the communist ideology.

Conclusion:

Barack Obama is an enemy of the United States.

The swallows, it appears, will return to Capistrano before we get a shot at a refutation of that minor premise.

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:

I stated that Obama has not one policy or statement that is contrary to any of the planks of the Communist Manifesto.

What “back up” do you want? A dump of every single statement he has ever uttered in his life?

No. Rather, if my statement is untrue, it should be an absolute softball for you. All you have to do is post that one plank and give an Obama statement or policy that opposes it.

But somehow you aren’t able to do it, are you? [/quote]

Well, given your standards, boy, I just don’t know if I can do it. Can’t you give just a little – JUST A LITTLE-- evidence for your argument?

All you would need to do is post one --JUST ONE!!-- example of a plank from the manifesto, and a statement or two from Obama that correlate exactly with it. If what you’re saying is true, this should be an absolute softball for you. Why don’t you just do it?

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As I recall, you’re the poster who keeps implying that Obama is not really an American, aren’t you?

Wrong yet again. I have never said that. What I have said is that there is strong evidence that he has held Indonesian citizenship and none that he has ever revoked it, and therefore there is legitimate question as to whether he is a dual national.

I have also stated that his sealing, upon deciding to run for President, of very numerous documents that would ordinarily be available, and absolutely unprecedented hiding of personal information by a Presidential candidate, strongly suggests that there is information in them that he did not want the voters to know. My stated best guess on that is that his records would prove he is a dual national, and exercised foreign citizenship as an adult.

Nice non-sequitur, by the way. I guess being unable to answer some simple questions with anything of any substance required a diversion.[/quote]

Hey, I aim to please. Sorry I couldn’t keep up with your argument on the “Obama is a Kenyan/Indonesian” threads. My bad. Just for fun, what exactly does one do to "exercised foreign citizenship? Stop by Indonesia without a visa? And what is this “strong evidence” of Indonesian citizenship? His attendance of a state school? That doesn’t sound so strong.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
At least Sloth had the guts to admit he flat out wouldn’t read any contradictory evidence on the other thread. [/quote]

Gambit, you know this isn’t true. I told you multiple times to provide your links WITHIN your own arguments. To provide whatever sources you thought neccessary to back YOURSELF up. Quotes, sources, links, and whatever else. Repeatedly. Don’t bring me into this, just to lie about our exchange. An exchange preserved here on the forum, of course.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

This is a “hissy” huh? BTW, does this have anything to do with my point?[/quote]

You don’t have a point, so that is easily dispensed with. You just don’t post anything interesting.

I don’t hate Obama - but their are non-political aspects to him that are hurting his presidency, as they hurt Nixon’s. That is the point here. It’s clear you don’t have an educated opinion on the matter - no problem, go play World of Warcraft or whatever it is that you do to feel complete and leave the adults to a discussion.

Can’t be a child forever, Gambit. If you aren’t up to a substantive discussion, next time, just say so.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
At least Sloth had the guts to admit he flat out wouldn’t read any contradictory evidence on the other thread.

Gambit, you know this isn’t true. I told you multiple times to provide your links WITHIN your own arguments. To provide whatever sources you thought neccessary to back YOURSELF up. Quotes, sources, links, and whatever else. Repeatedly. Don’t bring me into this, just to lie about our exchange. An exchange preserved here on the forum, of course.[/quote]

I had utterly given up on you based on your complete disregard for fields of study, but thought I’d give it one more chance. I asked you flat out if you would read information. You said “no” and made a this straw man about not making arguments.

You then threw some tantrum about something you, apparently, perceived I was saying. You still haven’t answered what the hell you were talking about.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:

This is a “hissy” huh? BTW, does this have anything to do with my point?

You don’t have a point, so that is easily dispensed with. You just don’t post anything interesting.

I don’t hate Obama - but their are non-political aspects to him that are hurting his presidency, as they hurt Nixon’s. That is the point here. It’s clear you don’t have an educated opinion on the matter - no problem, go play World of Warcraft or whatever it is that you do to feel complete and leave the adults to a discussion.

And I can’t imagine where they all ran off to with quality responses like yours here, or quality threads about how much we hate hate hate Obama.

Can’t be a child forever, Gambit. If you aren’t up to a substantive discussion, next time, just say so.[/quote]

So making fun of adults who use the term “weenie” makes me a child, huh? I’m hurt. Really.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
I asked you flat out if you would read information. You said “no” and made a this straw man about not making arguments. You then threw some tantrum about something you, apparently, perceived I was saying. You still haven’t answered what the hell you were talking about.
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I’m confident about my view of how the “conversation” went. The thread is obviously open to anyone who’d like to judge for themselves, if they feel the need to.