Why Do You Hate the US Military?

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]amphibian wrote:
I generally hate most civilians and would not allow them the priviledge of shining the shoes of even the most junior troops I train, so it’s all good. [/quote]

Hmmm. I’ve seen that as a contractor over here in Afghanistan. Why? Are you not here to protect civilians? Irrational. Are you one of the same that call folks that work on base Fobbits? Do you like eating, getting paid having housing when you do come on FOB?

See it is military folks like you that give the military a bad taste in peoples mouths. Don’t forget you are an ambassador for the military and for the U.S.

Now if you had said I hate most fat, lazy, disgusting people I could understand. :slight_smile:

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[quote]blazindave wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
jzzz wrote:
The post still stands i just didnt know how your funding works as I am not from the usa.

But with all the money you country spends on on defence could be used to clean up the streets or do you like the fact that you have a massive crime rate and homeless rate?

If our country didn’t spend so much money on defense, yours wouldn’t be allowed to govern itself.

Remember that.

This is bullshit and you know it.[/quote]

Not really. Most of western Europe would be speaking german right now if not for the US. Whether or not you think getting involved in foreign conflicts is a good thing or not, our presence has allowed a whole hell of a lot more self determination, in the past century then prevented it.

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[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
blazindave wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
jzzz wrote:
The post still stands i just didnt know how your funding works as I am not from the usa.

But with all the money you country spends on on defence could be used to clean up the streets or do you like the fact that you have a massive crime rate and homeless rate?

If our country didn’t spend so much money on defense, yours wouldn’t be allowed to govern itself.

Remember that.

This is bullshit and you know it.

Not really. Most of western Europe would be speaking german right now if not for the US. Whether or not you think getting involved in foreign conflicts is a good thing or not, our presence has allowed a whole hell of a lot more self determination, in the past century then prevented it.[/quote]

Yes, but we didn’t get involved in World War II to liberate France. Ditto the Cold War. Yes, American arms and money kept (Western) Europe from fascist and communist domination, but can we please stop patting ourselves on the back for being uniquely noble? We did what was in our national interest, which is what countries do. As they should.

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[quote]blazindave wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
jzzz wrote:
The post still stands i just didnt know how your funding works as I am not from the usa.

But with all the money you country spends on on defence could be used to clean up the streets or do you like the fact that you have a massive crime rate and homeless rate?

If our country didn’t spend so much money on defense, yours wouldn’t be allowed to govern itself.

Remember that.

This is bullshit and you know it.[/quote]

Yea. Says the fuckin Canadian. You guys are lucky you’re on the same damn continent… we’ve assured that you’ll never get attacked either.

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[quote]GDollars37 wrote:

Yes, but we didn’t get involved in World War II to liberate France.
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Maybe not directly for France, but we sure as fuck did it because, if left unabated, fascism was going to take over the globe.

And it got fucking abated at the muzzles of American garands.

Yea. We did that because now, fucking communism was spreading across the globe.

As the eastern europeans how fanfuckingtastic that was.

[quote]
Yes, American arms and money kept (Western) Europe from fascist and communist domination, but can we please stop patting ourselves on the back for being uniquely noble? We did what was in our national interest, which is what countries do. As they should.[/quote]

NO. And especially not when some cuntrag from another country makes a remark about how big our defense budget is.

Listen motherfuckers, whether you like it or not, and for whatever skewed reason that you believe, the American armed forces saved your asses in WWI, WWII, and the Cold War- the Soviets sure as shit didn’t stop at the Berlin Wall because they feared the damn French.

So before young kids from other countries whine and cry about OUR poverty rates compared to our defense budget, maybe they should remember that the only fucking reason that they have their own flag on their flagpole is because we annihilated the ones who threatened them.

I am the last fuckin guy to wrap himself in the flag and say rah-rah America, but facts are facts.

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Irish, I’m so pleased to see the progress you’ve made in becoming a conservative. It truly warms the cockles of my heart.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

And especially not when some cuntrag from another country makes a remark about how big our defense budget is.

Listen motherfuckers, whether you like it or not, and for whatever skewed reason that you believe, the American armed forces saved your asses in WWI, WWII, and the Cold War- the Soviets sure as shit didn’t stop at the Berlin Wall because they feared the damn French.

So before young kids from other countries whine and cry about OUR poverty rates compared to our defense budget, maybe they should remember that the only fucking reason that they have their own flag on their flagpole is because we annihilated the ones who threatened them.

I am the last fuckin guy to wrap himself in the flag and say rah-rah America, but facts are facts.[/quote]

Yep, what he said , end of thread.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
blazindave wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
jzzz wrote:
The post still stands i just didnt know how your funding works as I am not from the usa.

But with all the money you country spends on on defence could be used to clean up the streets or do you like the fact that you have a massive crime rate and homeless rate?

If our country didn’t spend so much money on defense, yours wouldn’t be allowed to govern itself.

Remember that.

This is bullshit and you know it.

Yea. Says the fuckin Canadian. You guys are lucky you’re on the same damn continent… we’ve assured that you’ll never get attacked either.[/quote]

Haha, you wish buddy. What imaginary foe would attack us?

And i like how you tell the austrian how they’d need your protection. Again, from what?
Keep in mind you exist entirely thanks to the french.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:

Yes, but we didn’t get involved in World War II to liberate France.

Maybe not directly for France, but we sure as fuck did it because, if left unabated, fascism was going to take over the globe.

And it got fucking abated at the muzzles of American garands.

Ditto the Cold War.

Yea. We did that because now, fucking communism was spreading across the globe.

As the eastern europeans how fanfuckingtastic that was.

Yes, American arms and money kept (Western) Europe from fascist and communist domination, but can we please stop patting ourselves on the back for being uniquely noble? We did what was in our national interest, which is what countries do. As they should.

NO. And especially not when some cuntrag from another country makes a remark about how big our defense budget is.

Listen motherfuckers, whether you like it or not, and for whatever skewed reason that you believe, the American armed forces saved your asses in WWI, WWII, and the Cold War- the Soviets sure as shit didn’t stop at the Berlin Wall because they feared the damn French.
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What in the fuck?
You guys entered WW1 in the last fucking stage! War world 1 started in 1914, ended in 1918 and you guys entered in december 1917.
Listen man, i have no problem saying that the U.S.A helped win those wars but every fucking country that was on our side helped win those wars. You are NOT the sole contribution to winning those wars. United kingdom, Spain, France, Canada, South Africa etc etc AND the united states of America won that war. Same with world war 1.
Also, you guys got heavily involved in WW2 after the attack on pearl harbor (if memory serves me correctly). You had helped the Allies but had never directly participated in the war.
You (officially) joined the war because you were attacked, not to stop fascism or some other crap like that.

Cold war you can keep.

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[quote]jawara wrote:
“If you cant stand behind our troops, try standing in front of them”[/quote]

Oh, that is just a matter of time really…

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[quote]blazindave wrote:
Keep in mind you exist entirely thanks to the french.[/quote]

What? Those cheese-eating surrender monkeys contributed massively to the independence of the USA? Say it ain’t so!

Rah-rah America!

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Irish, I’m so pleased to see the progress you’ve made in becoming a conservative. It truly warms the cockles of my heart.[/quote]

When someone as perceptive as Varq says this ^^^ Irish, time to sit up and take note.

I think exposure to the real world makes people realize that leaving each other alone should be the basic rule of life. Rich libs and college profs never get such exposure and can spout their fantasyland theories, leading to disasters like our present world.

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[quote]lixy wrote:

Rah-rah America![/quote]

you must be the second to the last guy.

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[quote]lixy wrote:!

Rah-rah America![/quote]

Finally, you have seen the light.

Deep down, I knew you were a reasonable guy!

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:

Yes, but we didn’t get involved in World War II to liberate France.

Maybe not directly for France, but we sure as fuck did it because, if left unabated, fascism was going to take over the globe.

And it got fucking abated at the muzzles of American garands.

Ditto the Cold War.

Yea. We did that because now, fucking communism was spreading across the globe.

As the eastern europeans how fanfuckingtastic that was.

Yes, American arms and money kept (Western) Europe from fascist and communist domination, but can we please stop patting ourselves on the back for being uniquely noble? We did what was in our national interest, which is what countries do. As they should.

NO. And especially not when some cuntrag from another country makes a remark about how big our defense budget is.

Listen motherfuckers, whether you like it or not, and for whatever skewed reason that you believe, the American armed forces saved your asses in WWI, WWII, and the Cold War- the Soviets sure as shit didn’t stop at the Berlin Wall because they feared the damn French.

So before young kids from other countries whine and cry about OUR poverty rates compared to our defense budget, maybe they should remember that the only fucking reason that they have their own flag on their flagpole is because we annihilated the ones who threatened them.

I am the last fuckin guy to wrap himself in the flag and say rah-rah America, but facts are facts.[/quote]

I’m as patriotic as the next guy, but taking comfort in ideological history just leaves you lying to yourself. We did not enter WWII to liberate France. Period. We were obviously on the right side, but we entered because the Japanese bombed us, and the Germans declared war.

Our entering World War I was quite likely a disaster for Western civilization. Given that WWI was the transformative event of the last century, I would expect more bitterness than thanks if Europeans really understood their history.

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[quote]GDollars37 wrote:

I’m as patriotic as the next guy, but taking comfort in ideological history just leaves you lying to yourself. We did not enter WWII to liberate France. Period. We were obviously on the right side, but we entered because the Japanese bombed us, and the Germans declared war.
[/quote]

I’m not taking comfort in any kind of ideological history. There was not enough pro-war sentiment in this country at the time to go to war with Germany or Japan thanks to very isolationist policies.

That didn’t stop Roosevelt from helping the British at every possible chance, including the Lend-lease program, which essentially gave the British ships for peanuts.

I hold FDR in high regard, and think that he knew exactly what they were dealing with. Liberating France? Maybe not that. However, stopping Hitler, I believe was certainly one of the priorities.

[quote]
Our entering World War I was quite likely a disaster for Western civilization. Given that WWI was the transformative event of the last century, I would expect more bitterness than thanks if Europeans really understood their history.[/quote]

Why? Because of what they did to Germany afterwards?