Why Do People Use Religion to Hide Bigotry?

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]aussie486 wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:
It’s disappointing to see people I normally like and respect using a derogatory slur to describe gays, regardless of whether or not they happen to be religious.

In other parts of the less civilized world, we call our friends “fag”, “faggot”, and “cunt” as terms of endearment.

A - “Oi cunt, pass me a beer”
B - “Piss off faggot, get your own stubbie” (while throwing a beer to A)
A - “Cheers cunt”

And no, I’m not kidding, this is how we talk.[/quote]

That’s because you are all genetically just convicts, criminals, and vagabonds.

;-)[/quote]

How dare you imply I’m Australian![/quote]

You should be happy, he just gave you the ultimate complement…and pass me a stub you dirty cunt.[/quote]

Off-topic: What beer should I be drinking in Australia? Most of the crap I had tasted like piss when I was there.[/quote]

Foster’s Lager, mate.

Not that I would know what it actually tastes like; I was a Mormon at the time I lived down under.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
sounds, like your a pussy.[/quote]

Agreed, your a pussy. [/quote]

Really? I live in Oklahoma right now. A very large % of the people who use my services go to church twice a week. Most are homophobes. If they found out I was an atheist I would lose business. How is that being a pussy? [/quote]

I do business with people in OKC all the time. I’m an Orthodox Jewish guy. They don’t care.[/quote]

So what? They still see you as a man of faith, your situation doesn’t apply here.

[/quote]

You guys should start the ‘Whiny Atheists’ club. Waaaaah! Christians are just so, so mean! They just hate us because we’re different.

The utter ridiculousness of this is killing me. I say you lobby Washington for minority status. Politicians aren’t ones to turn a blind eye to the most silly of notions.[/quote]

What exactly is ridiculous to you?

All we ask is you don’t legislate your book of fairytales into law and stop discriminating on the basis of faith (or in this case the lack of faith).

What exactly is so hard about being a Christian in America today?

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:
There is no room for rationality with any person who believes in any religion.
[/quote]

Well, at least you’re open minded. I tell you T Nation has the wackiest bunch of atheists that I’ve ever seen. I keep telling my wife how nutty you guys are but she still refuses to read.

LMAO![/quote]

2+2=4 that is a fact. There is no need to be open minded about it. When things are true you don’t have to pretend to believe them you just do.

Incase you did not read the 2+2=17 comment. My point is Being open minded about facts is silly. If you need to open minded about religion the concepts can not be factual.[/quote]

What “facts” are you referring too, exactly? Far as I know, you haven’t stated any.[/quote]

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[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:
There is no room for rationality with any person who believes in any religion.
[/quote]

Well, at least you’re open minded. I tell you T Nation has the wackiest bunch of atheists that I’ve ever seen. I keep telling my wife how nutty you guys are but she still refuses to read.

LMAO![/quote]

2+2=4 that is a fact. There is no need to be open minded about it. When things are true you don’t have to pretend to believe them you just do.

Incase you did not read the 2+2=17 comment. My point is Being open minded about facts is silly. If you need to open minded about religion the concepts can not be factual.[/quote]

What “facts” are you referring too, exactly? Far as I know, you haven’t stated any.[/quote]
[/quote]

LOL

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
sounds, like your a pussy.[/quote]

Agreed, your a pussy. [/quote]

Really? I live in Oklahoma right now. A very large % of the people who use my services go to church twice a week. Most are homophobes. If they found out I was an atheist I would lose business. How is that being a pussy? [/quote]

I do business with people in OKC all the time. I’m an Orthodox Jewish guy. They don’t care.[/quote]

So what? They still see you as a man of faith, your situation doesn’t apply here.

[/quote]

You guys should start the ‘Whiny Atheists’ club. Waaaaah! Christians are just so, so mean! They just hate us because we’re different.

The utter ridiculousness of this is killing me. I say you lobby Washington for minority status. Politicians aren’t ones to turn a blind eye to the most silly of notions.[/quote]

What exactly is ridiculous to you?

All we ask is you don’t legislate your book of fairytales into law and stop discriminating on the basis of faith (or in this case the lack of faith).

What exactly is so hard about being a Christian in America today? [/quote]

It’s ridiculous because it’s all imagined. I am very much for secular government and separation of church and state.
And you believe the biggest fairy tale of all, that nothing can magically make something happen.

All this supposed ‘discrimination’ is made up bullshit…
Go ahead tell me what have Christians done to you? Knock on your door? Ooooo. Hand you a Bible? Oh scary!

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[quote]forlife wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]aussie486 wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:
It’s disappointing to see people I normally like and respect using a derogatory slur to describe gays, regardless of whether or not they happen to be religious.

In other parts of the less civilized world, we call our friends “fag”, “faggot”, and “cunt” as terms of endearment.

A - “Oi cunt, pass me a beer”
B - “Piss off faggot, get your own stubbie” (while throwing a beer to A)
A - “Cheers cunt”

And no, I’m not kidding, this is how we talk.[/quote]

That’s because you are all genetically just convicts, criminals, and vagabonds.

;-)[/quote]

How dare you imply I’m Australian![/quote]

You should be happy, he just gave you the ultimate complement…and pass me a stub you dirty cunt.[/quote]

Off-topic: What beer should I be drinking in Australia? Most of the crap I had tasted like piss when I was there.[/quote]

Foster’s Lager, mate.

Not that I would know what it actually tastes like; I was a Mormon at the time I lived down under.[/quote]

I prefer XXXX Lager

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
sounds, like your a pussy.[/quote]

Agreed, your a pussy. [/quote]

Really? I live in Oklahoma right now. A very large % of the people who use my services go to church twice a week. Most are homophobes. If they found out I was an atheist I would lose business. How is that being a pussy? [/quote]

I do business with people in OKC all the time. I’m an Orthodox Jewish guy. They don’t care.[/quote]

So what? They still see you as a man of faith, your situation doesn’t apply here.

[/quote]

You guys should start the ‘Whiny Atheists’ club. Waaaaah! Christians are just so, so mean! They just hate us because we’re different.

The utter ridiculousness of this is killing me. I say you lobby Washington for minority status. Politicians aren’t ones to turn a blind eye to the most silly of notions.[/quote]

What exactly is ridiculous to you?

All we ask is you don’t legislate your book of fairytales into law and stop discriminating on the basis of faith (or in this case the lack of faith).

What exactly is so hard about being a Christian in America today? [/quote]

It’s ridiculous because it’s all imagined. I am very much for secular government and separation of church and state.
And you believe the biggest fairy tale of all, that nothing can magically make something happen.

All this supposed ‘discrimination’ is made up bullshit…
Go ahead tell me what have Christians done to you? Knock on your door? Ooooo. Hand you a Bible? Oh scary![/quote]

Even though I explained this in a previous thread you’re still just going to ignore what I say and persist with your asinine comments. But I’ll try one more time.

Atheists/non-secular America is roughly 16% of the population yet there is 0 representation in government. There are and there have been Muslim, Hindu, and Jewish senators but no atheists. Atheists outnumber Jews and Hindus in America and probably Muslims but I’d have to check that last one.

The other day I came across a study that showed Americans would rather elect an openly muslim president before an atheist. Does this not stand out to you? Do you not see there is a stigma with openly being an atheist in society? What do you think the OP is talking about? Do you think we are all lying?

I’m sure this is going to be ignored just like it was when I first said it.

So do you find it tough being a Christian in America? Is it tough being a Christian?

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
sounds, like your a pussy.[/quote]

Agreed, your a pussy. [/quote]

Really? I live in Oklahoma right now. A very large % of the people who use my services go to church twice a week. Most are homophobes. If they found out I was an atheist I would lose business. How is that being a pussy? [/quote]

I do business with people in OKC all the time. I’m an Orthodox Jewish guy. They don’t care.[/quote]

So what? They still see you as a man of faith, your situation doesn’t apply here.

[/quote]

You guys should start the ‘Whiny Atheists’ club. Waaaaah! Christians are just so, so mean! They just hate us because we’re different.

The utter ridiculousness of this is killing me. I say you lobby Washington for minority status. Politicians aren’t ones to turn a blind eye to the most silly of notions.[/quote]

What exactly is ridiculous to you?

All we ask is you don’t legislate your book of fairytales into law and stop discriminating on the basis of faith (or in this case the lack of faith).

What exactly is so hard about being a Christian in America today? [/quote]

It’s ridiculous because it’s all imagined. I am very much for secular government and separation of church and state.
And you believe the biggest fairy tale of all, that nothing can magically make something happen.

All this supposed ‘discrimination’ is made up bullshit…
Go ahead tell me what have Christians done to you? Knock on your door? Ooooo. Hand you a Bible? Oh scary![/quote]

Even though I explained this in a previous thread you’re still just going to ignore what I say and persist with your asinine comments. But I’ll try one more time.

Atheists/non-secular America is roughly 16% of the population yet there is 0 representation in government. There are and there have been Muslim, Hindu, and Jewish senators but no atheists. Atheists outnumber Jews and Hindus in America and probably Muslims but I’d have to check that last one.

The other day I came across a study that showed Americans would rather elect an openly muslim president before an atheist. Does this not stand out to you? Do you not see there is a stigma with openly being an atheist in society? What do you think the OP is talking about? Do you think we are all lying?

I’m sure this is going to be ignored just like it was when I first said it.

So do you find it tough being a Christian in America? Is it tough being a Christian?

[/quote]

Should I call you a Wah-mbulance? Seriously, get over it.

Tell me whiny, how ‘hard’ is it to be an atheist? Anybody try to kill you? You afraid to leave your house? Are you getting death threats? What are those big, bad meany Christians doing to you?

Maybe you should start a campaign to change hearts and minds about atheism…Oh wait, it’s not a religion. You believe in nothing and it is a nothing.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
sounds, like your a pussy.[/quote]

Agreed, your a pussy. [/quote]

Really? I live in Oklahoma right now. A very large % of the people who use my services go to church twice a week. Most are homophobes. If they found out I was an atheist I would lose business. How is that being a pussy? [/quote]

I do business with people in OKC all the time. I’m an Orthodox Jewish guy. They don’t care.[/quote]

So what? They still see you as a man of faith, your situation doesn’t apply here.

[/quote]

You guys should start the ‘Whiny Atheists’ club. Waaaaah! Christians are just so, so mean! They just hate us because we’re different.

The utter ridiculousness of this is killing me. I say you lobby Washington for minority status. Politicians aren’t ones to turn a blind eye to the most silly of notions.[/quote]

What exactly is ridiculous to you?

All we ask is you don’t legislate your book of fairytales into law and stop discriminating on the basis of faith (or in this case the lack of faith).

What exactly is so hard about being a Christian in America today? [/quote]

It’s ridiculous because it’s all imagined. I am very much for secular government and separation of church and state.
And you believe the biggest fairy tale of all, that nothing can magically make something happen.

All this supposed ‘discrimination’ is made up bullshit…
Go ahead tell me what have Christians done to you? Knock on your door? Ooooo. Hand you a Bible? Oh scary![/quote]

I have no problem whatsoever with Christians like you who believe in separation of church and state. People should be able to believe whatever the hell they want, as long as they don’t legislate their beliefs on others.

However, not all Christians believe in separating church and state. They feel justified creating laws that reflect their religious beliefs, because they’re convinced those laws are from god, and hence must be good for everyone to follow.

That’s why religious social conservatives like Michelle Bachmann and Rick Perry scare me. They would create laws that directly impact me in a negative way, based on their religious convictions.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
sounds, like your a pussy.[/quote]

Agreed, your a pussy. [/quote]

Really? I live in Oklahoma right now. A very large % of the people who use my services go to church twice a week. Most are homophobes. If they found out I was an atheist I would lose business. How is that being a pussy? [/quote]

I do business with people in OKC all the time. I’m an Orthodox Jewish guy. They don’t care.[/quote]

So what? They still see you as a man of faith, your situation doesn’t apply here.

[/quote]

You guys should start the ‘Whiny Atheists’ club. Waaaaah! Christians are just so, so mean! They just hate us because we’re different.

The utter ridiculousness of this is killing me. I say you lobby Washington for minority status. Politicians aren’t ones to turn a blind eye to the most silly of notions.[/quote]

What exactly is ridiculous to you?

All we ask is you don’t legislate your book of fairytales into law and stop discriminating on the basis of faith (or in this case the lack of faith).

What exactly is so hard about being a Christian in America today? [/quote]

It’s ridiculous because it’s all imagined. I am very much for secular government and separation of church and state.
And you believe the biggest fairy tale of all, that nothing can magically make something happen.

All this supposed ‘discrimination’ is made up bullshit…
Go ahead tell me what have Christians done to you? Knock on your door? Ooooo. Hand you a Bible? Oh scary![/quote]

Even though I explained this in a previous thread you’re still just going to ignore what I say and persist with your asinine comments. But I’ll try one more time.

Atheists/non-secular America is roughly 16% of the population yet there is 0 representation in government. There are and there have been Muslim, Hindu, and Jewish senators but no atheists. Atheists outnumber Jews and Hindus in America and probably Muslims but I’d have to check that last one.

The other day I came across a study that showed Americans would rather elect an openly muslim president before an atheist. Does this not stand out to you? Do you not see there is a stigma with openly being an atheist in society? What do you think the OP is talking about? Do you think we are all lying?

I’m sure this is going to be ignored just like it was when I first said it.

So do you find it tough being a Christian in America? Is it tough being a Christian?

[/quote]

Should I call you a Wah-mbulance? Seriously, get over it.

Tell me whiny, how ‘hard’ is it to be an atheist? Anybody try to kill you? You afraid to leave your house? Are you getting death threats? What are those big, bad meany Christians doing to you?

Maybe you should start a campaign to change hearts and minds about atheism…Oh wait, it’s not a religion. You believe in nothing and it is a nothing.[/quote]

Yup I was right, addressing actual facts is not your strong point. 2+2=/= 4 amirite?

Tell me, how many times has someone tried to kill you for being a Christian in America?

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
sounds, like your a pussy.[/quote]

Agreed, your a pussy. [/quote]

Really? I live in Oklahoma right now. A very large % of the people who use my services go to church twice a week. Most are homophobes. If they found out I was an atheist I would lose business. How is that being a pussy? [/quote]

I do business with people in OKC all the time. I’m an Orthodox Jewish guy. They don’t care.[/quote]

So what? They still see you as a man of faith, your situation doesn’t apply here.

[/quote]

You guys should start the ‘Whiny Atheists’ club. Waaaaah! Christians are just so, so mean! They just hate us because we’re different.

The utter ridiculousness of this is killing me. I say you lobby Washington for minority status. Politicians aren’t ones to turn a blind eye to the most silly of notions.[/quote]

What exactly is ridiculous to you?

All we ask is you don’t legislate your book of fairytales into law and stop discriminating on the basis of faith (or in this case the lack of faith).

What exactly is so hard about being a Christian in America today? [/quote]

It’s ridiculous because it’s all imagined. I am very much for secular government and separation of church and state.
And you believe the biggest fairy tale of all, that nothing can magically make something happen.

All this supposed ‘discrimination’ is made up bullshit…
Go ahead tell me what have Christians done to you? Knock on your door? Ooooo. Hand you a Bible? Oh scary![/quote]

Even though I explained this in a previous thread you’re still just going to ignore what I say and persist with your asinine comments. But I’ll try one more time.

Atheists/non-secular America is roughly 16% of the population yet there is 0 representation in government. There are and there have been Muslim, Hindu, and Jewish senators but no atheists. Atheists outnumber Jews and Hindus in America and probably Muslims but I’d have to check that last one.

The other day I came across a study that showed Americans would rather elect an openly muslim president before an atheist. Does this not stand out to you? Do you not see there is a stigma with openly being an atheist in society? What do you think the OP is talking about? Do you think we are all lying?

I’m sure this is going to be ignored just like it was when I first said it.

So do you find it tough being a Christian in America? Is it tough being a Christian?

[/quote]

Should I call you a Wah-mbulance? Seriously, get over it.

Tell me whiny, how ‘hard’ is it to be an atheist? Anybody try to kill you? You afraid to leave your house? Are you getting death threats? What are those big, bad meany Christians doing to you?

Maybe you should start a campaign to change hearts and minds about atheism…Oh wait, it’s not a religion. You believe in nothing and it is a nothing.[/quote]

Yup I was right, addressing actual facts is not your strong point. 2+2=/= 4 amirite?

Tell me, how many times has someone tried to kill you for being a Christian in America?[/quote]

The only thing that is coming from this debate in condescending comments rearding how much atheists complain about inequality. Actually my main issue is with the blatent and very public discrimination against gays, which has somehow been avoided in this whole thread. Maybe there is a reason for that? It’s still ok to hate gay people in America.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

Yup I was right, addressing actual facts is not your strong point. 2+2=/= 4 amirite?

Tell me, how many times has someone tried to kill you for being a Christian in America?[/quote]

No your wrong.

The fact that atheists are a minority of a population is an irrelevant fact. Holding a minority ideology does not automatically constitute neither automatic discrimination nor bigotry.
You are not entitled to shit. Nobody is being big, bad or mean to you.

Even in being a majority, I have actually been mocked for being a Christian. So cut the crap.

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[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
sounds, like your a pussy.[/quote]

Agreed, your a pussy. [/quote]

Really? I live in Oklahoma right now. A very large % of the people who use my services go to church twice a week. Most are homophobes. If they found out I was an atheist I would lose business. How is that being a pussy? [/quote]

I do business with people in OKC all the time. I’m an Orthodox Jewish guy. They don’t care.[/quote]

So what? They still see you as a man of faith, your situation doesn’t apply here.

[/quote]

You guys should start the ‘Whiny Atheists’ club. Waaaaah! Christians are just so, so mean! They just hate us because we’re different.

The utter ridiculousness of this is killing me. I say you lobby Washington for minority status. Politicians aren’t ones to turn a blind eye to the most silly of notions.[/quote]

What exactly is ridiculous to you?

All we ask is you don’t legislate your book of fairytales into law and stop discriminating on the basis of faith (or in this case the lack of faith).

What exactly is so hard about being a Christian in America today? [/quote]

It’s ridiculous because it’s all imagined. I am very much for secular government and separation of church and state.
And you believe the biggest fairy tale of all, that nothing can magically make something happen.

All this supposed ‘discrimination’ is made up bullshit…
Go ahead tell me what have Christians done to you? Knock on your door? Ooooo. Hand you a Bible? Oh scary![/quote]

Even though I explained this in a previous thread you’re still just going to ignore what I say and persist with your asinine comments. But I’ll try one more time.

Atheists/non-secular America is roughly 16% of the population yet there is 0 representation in government. There are and there have been Muslim, Hindu, and Jewish senators but no atheists. Atheists outnumber Jews and Hindus in America and probably Muslims but I’d have to check that last one.

The other day I came across a study that showed Americans would rather elect an openly muslim president before an atheist. Does this not stand out to you? Do you not see there is a stigma with openly being an atheist in society? What do you think the OP is talking about? Do you think we are all lying?

I’m sure this is going to be ignored just like it was when I first said it.

So do you find it tough being a Christian in America? Is it tough being a Christian?

[/quote]

Should I call you a Wah-mbulance? Seriously, get over it.

Tell me whiny, how ‘hard’ is it to be an atheist? Anybody try to kill you? You afraid to leave your house? Are you getting death threats? What are those big, bad meany Christians doing to you?

Maybe you should start a campaign to change hearts and minds about atheism…Oh wait, it’s not a religion. You believe in nothing and it is a nothing.[/quote]

Yup I was right, addressing actual facts is not your strong point. 2+2=/= 4 amirite?

Tell me, how many times has someone tried to kill you for being a Christian in America?[/quote]

The only thing that is coming from this debate in condescending comments rearding how much atheists complain about inequality. Actually my main issue is with the blatent and very public discrimination against gays, which has somehow been avoided in this whole thread. Maybe there is a reason for that? It’s still ok to hate gay people in America.[/quote]

We’re making progress. The majority of Americans now support gay marriage, and several states have legalized gay marriage. Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell has been trashed for the discriminatory policy it was. The Defense of Marriage Act is currently under judicial scrutiny as being unconstitutional. Being gay is far less the stigma that it used to be, and prominent celebrities and politicians have chosen to come out. We have a long way to go yet, but I feel fortunate to live now and see the progress firsthand.

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[quote]forlife wrote:

I have no problem whatsoever with Christians like you who believe in separation of church and state. People should be able to believe whatever the hell they want, as long as they don’t legislate their beliefs on others.

However, not all Christians believe in separating church and state. They feel justified creating laws that reflect their religious beliefs, because they’re convinced those laws are from god, and hence must be good for everyone to follow.

That’s why religious social conservatives like Michelle Bachmann and Rick Perry scare me. They would create laws that directly impact me in a negative way, based on their religious convictions.
[/quote]

Most Christians are for separation of Church and state contrary to what you may think. Bachmann has no chance.

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[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:
The only thing that is coming from this debate in condescending comments rearding how much atheists complain about inequality. Actually my main issue is with the blatent and very public discrimination against gays, which has somehow been avoided in this whole thread. Maybe there is a reason for that? It’s still ok to hate gay people in America.[/quote]

Who said it’s ok to hate gay people. Where is your proof that ‘hatred of gay people’ is a statute?

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

I have no problem whatsoever with Christians like you who believe in separation of church and state. People should be able to believe whatever the hell they want, as long as they don’t legislate their beliefs on others.

However, not all Christians believe in separating church and state. They feel justified creating laws that reflect their religious beliefs, because they’re convinced those laws are from god, and hence must be good for everyone to follow.

That’s why religious social conservatives like Michelle Bachmann and Rick Perry scare me. They would create laws that directly impact me in a negative way, based on their religious convictions.
[/quote]

Most Christians are for separation of Church and state contrary to what you may think. Bachmann has no chance.[/quote]

I hope you’re right, and agree that increasingly this is becoming the case in our country. People are more willing to live and let live, especially when they’re struggling with real issues like a sucky economy that affect them personally.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Yup I was right, addressing actual facts is not your strong point. 2+2=/= 4 amirite?

Tell me, how many times has someone tried to kill you for being a Christian in America?[/quote]

No your wrong.

The fact that atheists are a minority of a population is an irrelevant fact. Holding a minority ideology does not automatically constitute neither automatic discrimination nor bigotry.
You are not entitled to shit. Nobody is being big, bad or mean to you.

Even in being a majority, I have actually been mocked for being a Christian. So cut the crap.[/quote]

…

It’s not “automatic” it exists. I’ve lost interest in discussing you at this point. To you it’s just a coincidence there are 0 representation of atheists in government.

16% of America being non-secular/atheists is relevant to the point being made.

I hope you can overcome the difficulties of being a Christian in the Southern United States. Must be hard LOL

Anyways, have a good day!

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Yup I was right, addressing actual facts is not your strong point. 2+2=/= 4 amirite?

Tell me, how many times has someone tried to kill you for being a Christian in America?[/quote]

No your wrong.

The fact that atheists are a minority of a population is an irrelevant fact. Holding a minority ideology does not automatically constitute neither automatic discrimination nor bigotry.
You are not entitled to shit. Nobody is being big, bad or mean to you.

Even in being a majority, I have actually been mocked for being a Christian. So cut the crap.[/quote]

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It’s not “automatic” it exists. I’ve lost interest in discussing you at this point. To you it’s just a coincidence there are 0 representation of atheists in government.

16% of America being non-secular/atheists is relevant to the point being made.

I hope you can overcome the difficulties of being a Christian in the Southern United States. Must be hard LOL

Anyways, have a good day![/quote]

You want some cheese with that whine???

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[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
sounds, like your a pussy.[/quote]

Agreed, your a pussy. [/quote]

Really? I live in Oklahoma right now. A very large % of the people who use my services go to church twice a week. Most are homophobes. If they found out I was an atheist I would lose business. How is that being a pussy? [/quote]

I’d probably stop doing business with someone that thought just because I disagreed with people acting on their homosexual tendencies and homosexual union that I am a bigot and couldn’t take a joke.

So, I suggest you don’t actively reveal your prejudices if you want to keep your business.[/quote]

I like how you tried to flip that. I like it.[/quote]

I’m channeling my inner Brian Wilson.

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[quote]forlife wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

I have no problem whatsoever with Christians like you who believe in separation of church and state. People should be able to believe whatever the hell they want, as long as they don’t legislate their beliefs on others.

However, not all Christians believe in separating church and state. They feel justified creating laws that reflect their religious beliefs, because they’re convinced those laws are from god, and hence must be good for everyone to follow.

That’s why religious social conservatives like Michelle Bachmann and Rick Perry scare me. They would create laws that directly impact me in a negative way, based on their religious convictions.
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Most Christians are for separation of Church and state contrary to what you may think. Bachmann has no chance.[/quote]

I hope you’re right, and agree that increasingly this is becoming the case in our country. People are more willing to live and let live, especially when they’re struggling with real issues like a sucky economy that affect them personally.
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<— Wants Catholic government…ran by the Pope himself.
<— Is okay with you not being a Catholic in Catholic America. :slight_smile:

Kidding about the Pope thing, because he’d have to raise up a Duke of 'Merika to rule.