Why Do Men Get Married These Days?

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
and lol@ ‘my anecdotal evidence’ regarding those majors.

all the psych and communications majors I know are either bartenders, baristas, or waitresses… all with 50-90k in student loans.

maybe I could hook them up with your friends for networking purposes to get them out of the holes they dug themselves into[/quote]

you are such a complete prick lol.

Mr-23-year-old-know-it-all-virgin what major did/do you do?

What is your current financial situation?

How much do you earn?

Do you consider your interactions with females/relationships to be a success? why/why not?
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I believe that the greatest pleasure in life is the avoidance of pain.[/quote]

You’re in for a very boring life, my friend.

The more pain you feel now, the easier life will be later.

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote

I believe that the greatest pleasure in life is the avoidance of pain.[/quote]

That’s the philosophy of shut ins and heads of lettuce.

Avoid pain = don’t take risk = do nothing

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

I believe that the greatest pleasure in life is the avoidance of pain.[/quote]

I’m pretty sure the greatest pleasures in life come out of great risk of pain.

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

I believe that the greatest pleasure in life is the avoidance of pain.[/quote]

I’m pretty sure the greatest pleasures in life come out of great risk of pain.[/quote]

Working out should’ve taught him that.

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[quote]Stinkfist wrote:

The more pain you feel now, the easier life will be later.
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lol… how do you figure?

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[quote]TheCB wrote:
OP you’re a mid 20s virgin

instead of worrying about what other men do, why not think about why you’re such a pathetic loser that you have never even gotten your dick wet once[/quote]

Why do men even lose their virginity these days? Wouldn’t it be better to just masturbate and work out and ask questions on the internet?

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[quote]comus3 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote

I believe that the greatest pleasure in life is the avoidance of pain.[/quote]

That’s the philosophy of shut ins and heads of lettuce.

Avoid pain = don’t take risk = do nothing
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It’s a completely infantile, stunted, and lazy outlook on life.

And you said it right: shut-ins think like this and act accordingly. As soon as someone forms any sort of relationship with other people–co-working, cohabitation, friendship, marriage, or just living alongside other people–they are subject to annoyances, inconveniences, limitations, norms, and so on, many of which have to be dealt with while having a smile on one’s face while internally they are pissed off, depressed, tired, irritated, unmotivated, or whatever.

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[quote]TheCB wrote:
Brickhead is completely owning this thread.

Every post is superb. [/quote]

Thanks CB and Clunk. I don’t think I’m the wisest or smartest guy around, but some of these sorts of threads get me a bit worked up. LOL!

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Stinkfist wrote:

The more pain you feel now, the easier life will be later.
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lol… how do you figure?

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Pain toughens you mentally and gives you a thicker skin. Pain becomes easier to handle.

Same as working out. Lifting hard makes you bigger and stronger, right?

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[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]comus3 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote

I believe that the greatest pleasure in life is the avoidance of pain.[/quote]

That’s the philosophy of shut ins and heads of lettuce.

Avoid pain = don’t take risk = do nothing
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It’s a completely infantile, stunted, and lazy outlook on life.

And you said it right: shut-ins think like this and act accordingly. As soon as someone forms any sort of relationship with other people–co-working, cohabitation, friendship, marriage, or just living alongside other people–they are subject to annoyances, inconveniences, limitations, norms, and so on, many of which have to be dealt with while having a smile on one’s face while internally they are pissed off, depressed, tired, irritated, unmotivated, or whatever. [/quote]

the avoidance of pain does not necessarily mean the avoidance of risk… and it does not mean being a ‘shut in’… lol, do you guys even think about what you are writing before you post? we are talking about pain…PAIN… not minor annoyances and inconveniences that typically come along with friendships and relationships

let’s try to get this back on topic… again.

a man could avoid a great deal of potential pain and complication by not getting married… and simply having a ‘lover’, or ‘life partner’ - (an exclusive relationship), choosing to opt out of government’s interference in our romantic affairs.

there was a long-time poster on another board that I frequent, whose wife left him, and used his steroid usage against him in court to gain full custody of the kids (she claimed to be fine with his usage while they were married, but apparently changed her mind when it best suited her). he lost everything, and was not able to see his children… he ended up killing himself not much later. (yes, I know that’s an anecdote).

there is a poster here who said that his wife left him, and he is paying her alimony while she runs around with her new beau who ‘makes 10x what he does’…

so again i ask, what does a man gain from marriage besides tax benefits? someone answer me that… give me ONE good answer. “love”, “acceptance by society”, “traditionalism” are not good answers…

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[quote]Stinkfist wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Stinkfist wrote:

The more pain you feel now, the easier life will be later.
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lol… how do you figure?

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Pain toughens you mentally and gives you a thicker skin. Pain becomes easier to handle.

Same as working out. Lifting hard makes you bigger and stronger, right?

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well… it can have that effect yes, but it can also leave you feeling lifeless…

there is such thing as a fate worse than death lol.

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

so again i ask, what does a man gain from marriage besides tax benefits? someone answer me that… give me ONE good answer. “love”, “acceptance by society”, “traditionalism” are not good answers… [/quote]

What is 1+1. Give me ONE good answer. “two”, “dos”, “deux” are not good answers…

Marriage is a covenant between a man and a woman. It is based on love and to some degree social acceptance and traditionalism. Just because you don’t like the answer doesn’t make it not an answer.

You seem to be in a stage of unconscious incompetence. You’ve never experienced romantic love or meaningful relationships and you dismiss them like you’re somehow above them. If you’re looking for a reason for marriage that resonates with your bias then I doubt you’ll find it here. If you’re looking to convert those of us who are willing to make ourselves vulnerable to another human being that we love, then you should probably just give up.

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[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

so again i ask, what does a man gain from marriage besides tax benefits? someone answer me that… give me ONE good answer. “love”, “acceptance by society”, “traditionalism” are not good answers… [/quote]

What is 1+1. Give me ONE good answer. “two”, “dos”, “deux” are not good answers…

Marriage is a covenant between a man and a woman. It is based on love and to some degree social acceptance and traditionalism. Just because you don’t like the answer doesn’t make it not an answer.

You seem to be in a stage of unconscious incompetence. You’ve never experienced romantic love or meaningful relationships and you dismiss them like you’re somehow above them. If you’re looking for a reason for marriage that resonates with your bias then I doubt you’ll find it here. If you’re looking to convert those of us who are willing to make ourselves vulnerable to another human being that we love, then you should probably just give up.
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this is not about love or romantic relationships… this is about the financial and social destruction that a man can suffer as a result of his decision to get married.

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]comus3 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote

I believe that the greatest pleasure in life is the avoidance of pain.[/quote]

That’s the philosophy of shut ins and heads of lettuce.

Avoid pain = don’t take risk = do nothing
[/quote]

It’s a completely infantile, stunted, and lazy outlook on life.

And you said it right: shut-ins think like this and act accordingly. As soon as someone forms any sort of relationship with other people–co-working, cohabitation, friendship, marriage, or just living alongside other people–they are subject to annoyances, inconveniences, limitations, norms, and so on, many of which have to be dealt with while having a smile on one’s face while internally they are pissed off, depressed, tired, irritated, unmotivated, or whatever. [/quote]

the avoidance of pain does not necessarily mean the avoidance of risk… and it does not mean being a ‘shut in’… lol, do you guys even think about what you are writing before you post? we are talking about pain…PAIN… not minor annoyances and inconveniences that typically come along with friendships and relationships

let’s try to get this back on topic… again.

a man could avoid a great deal of potential pain and complication by not getting married… and simply having a ‘lover’, or ‘life partner’ - (an exclusive relationship), choosing to opt out of government’s interference in our romantic affairs.

there was a long-time poster on another board that I frequent, whose wife left him, and used his steroid usage against him in court to gain full custody of the kids (she claimed to be fine with his usage while they were married, but apparently changed her mind when it best suited her). he lost everything, and was not able to see his children… he ended up killing himself not much later. (yes, I know that’s an anecdote).

there is a poster here who said that his wife left him, and he is paying her alimony while she runs around with her new beau who ‘makes 10x what he does’…

so again i ask, what does a man gain from marriage besides tax benefits? someone answer me that… give me ONE good answer. “love”, “acceptance by society”, “traditionalism” are not good answers… [/quote]

Love and tradition are not good answers… For you. For others love and tradition are extremely valid motives.

The ritual where a man and a woman stand up before witnesses and swear their devotion to one another in hopes of building a life together has profound personal and cultural resonance for many people that has greater value than the protection of potential future financial assets.

If it lacks that significance for you, then by all means don’t get married. I can’t imagine why anyone would want be an accountant, but it’s no skin off my ass if somebody else does.

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10/10 Thread. I don’t know whom are trolling whom at this point, but it is interesting. Mr. Walkaway, what is your major?

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

this is a pure assumption that is unquantifiable. ill tell you what though, want to guess how many females I met in university who were majoring in psychology/sociology/communications (read ‘bullshit’)? [/quote]

There are sociologist and psychologists who earn six figures and the field of psychology is very important for the well being of people and understanding our world.

Some PR and marketing execs and news reporters who majored in communications earn six to seven figures. My cousin majored in PR and communications and now works at one of the biggest media giants in the world, pretty much one that dictates ALL fashion and music trends for decades.

It’s pretty funny you consider those three majors as bullshit.
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All the more so when it comes in a post responding to Ms. Q, who unless I’m mistaken is gainfully employed in one of those “bullshit” fields.

Edited to add: A good friend of mine who is a clinical counsellor bills out for $150/hr in his private practice. Yep, total BS.[/quote]

Yes, and I just checked and found that I earn approximately double the median income for white males in America - which is not a princely sum by any means, but it’s certainly not to be discounted as nothing.

(My hourly billing is around that, but it’s my organization that makes that amount of money, not me. Which is fine. Insurance, 401K contributions, etc.)

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

The ritual where a man and a woman stand up before witnesses and swear their devotion to one another in hopes of building a life together has profound personal and cultural resonance for many people that has greater value than the protection of potential future financial assets.

If it lacks that significance for you, then by all means don’t get married. I can’t imagine why anyone would want be an accountant, but it’s no skin off my ass if somebody else does.[/quote]

And there it is! THE ANSWER TO LIFE.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

How is his? [/quote]

Well for one, if they’re a single mom prior to meeting the man they married, they now will get child support and alimony from a guy who is not their kids father.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Earnings and asset gains are significant during the 20s and 30s. And?[/quote]

A lot of women are super serious about their careers in their 20’s, have a kid or two and then aren’t all that interested in pursuing their careers. Then after a divorce they receive child support and alimony, are able to work less as a result and sometime even are supported by another man simultaneously (boyfriend).

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
It’s like all these doomsday scenarios are built around "up-and-coming engineer or such meets and rescues a diner waitress who is the hottest chick at the nightclub - night after night - and who surprisingly turns out NOT to have a big investment in continuing her “career.'” [/quote]

Um it’s not just waitresses.

In Canada there is a doctor’s shortage largely because women take up many of the spots in med school but work way fewer hours, and offer fewer services. Want to know why? Because they put raising children ahead of their careers.

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Unless you plan to have children, what is the point for a man to get married?

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Mr walkway, I’m really curious about your thinking.

You’ve been given other people’s perspectives of why they marry in spite of the financial risks. Such as love, companionship, greater joint financial success, friendship, cultural value, spiritual etc.

I’d also venture that despite the horror stories, if you are emotionally stable, self aware and generally a sane person who finds and marries someone similar that the possibility of a complete go to shit, all out war divorce and the financial risks are actually much lower than you estimate.

You can accept or reject them. You asked and got answers.

Give us some background as to why you really have embarked on the virgin until financial success and iron clad guaranteed that the women can’t betray you either financially or through false rape accusations etc? At your age I’m not sure how you would accumulate the negative experiences to make this your world view.

Again I’m curious as to how you got to this conclusion. Are your parents divorced? Still together? Happy? Did they take an interest in your life? Too much? Were you raised in an orphanage? Do you believe that women are a completely different species from men? Is the male/female relationship entirely adversarial? Based on mutual exploitation?

I’m serious when I thank you for your responses.