The Gold’s I used to work at hired mostly attractive people for the desk and sales. I think most of chose the job because of the free gym membership. We’d always crack on the manager though–he was such a fatass.
Well, in my gym, just about everyone they hire is under 15% bodyfat if that really matters. A good amount of them are actually in good shape and look like they train, and a few are trainers and look good too.
As for the personal training company they outsource too, most of their trainers have competed as fitness models, one of the owners looks like a steroid junkie and is pretty damn big, and the other owner of said personal training company has competed at top amateur levels in BB.
On the other hand, in my old gym (my first year training), it was a mix. They had maybe 3-4 male employees in great shape, 1 guy who did MMA and looked like he was 150 pounds and 20% bodyfat, a guy who was as fit as Urkel, one super skinny woman with no muscle who liked only power walking and feared all weights, a couple of woman who weren’t fat but were far from skinny, and a few fatty woman.
Annoyingly, all these employees doubled as trainers, and some of them had really shitty advice. My dad was doing DB shoulder presses and the skinny woman who is afraid of weights was like "oh my, 25 pound DBs on such a dangerous exercise!
Which trainer gave you such a bad program?" The next day, I’m doing lat pulldowns with 110 pounds, and she is like “wow, such a high weight.” A couple of weeks later, my dad was doing some HIIT, and she is like “Power walking is better for you and that is dangerous changing the speeds like that.”
My dad basically told her to shut the fuck up and mind her own business. She never said a thing to me or my dad again and I’m happy about that.
Back to the fat woman subject, one of them told me that I should only lift weights twice a week for 20 minutes (on exercises like lateral raises and pulley curl) and do only cardio.
[quote]Kreal7 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i feel like business is the most overrated college degree. everyone i meet who isnt in college is like oh i want to take business. im like, what kind? and then theyre just a little dumbfunded. its the same with people in school too, its like they think you graduate with a business degree and are simotaneously awarded a million dollars.
I used the term “business degree” too loosely. There are many misconceptions about business school.
Those are the same people who won’t make it through business school. They are the people who choose degrees like management, marketing, or supply chain management: mostly useless degrees. My friend’s brother graduated with an English degree and several companies wanted him to come do marketing for them.
Accounting and Finance are the two most valuable business degrees by far and not overrated. I’m in accounting because that is the best knowledge to have in the business world. It’s no coincidence that is the hardest section of the school to get accepted.
Economics is a highly regarded degree by schools, but I really do not know why. Then again making that many assumptions about markets is hard to do with a straight face… A lot of people who choose econ go into law school.
I think there are other worthy degrees such as engineering for a four year degree. If you look at all the science degrees offered you really have to do graduate school to get anywhere and this is assuming you get in.
A girl I worked with graduated with a biology degree and did not get into any graduate programs. She graduated with like a 3.8 and worked all four years.
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anything with the slightest relevance to engineering will get you the bucks these days. especially in a country like the US where our market is based on research and develop far far more than production. we’re a land of invetors, not producers.
[quote]Thomas Gabriel wrote:
It’s not just about marketing for the gym. The MAJORITY of girls taking kinesiology are overweight. [/quote]
What the hell school do you go to? At my school, the majority of girls in the Kinesiology field are extremely hot and are always wearing tight spandex workout clothes to class. Boners in class are typical.
[quote]Kreal7 wrote:
My friend’s brother graduated with an English degree and several companies wanted him to come do marketing for them.
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What’s funny about that is how many people will tell you that English is such a worthless degree
i live in houston, and the gym that i go to has the worst looking people. there are about 2 trainers there that look like they at least workout. only 1 trainer there really pays attention to his cleint. the other ones i always noticing them jokin around or playin around with someone other then their client. all front desk people look out of shape and so do sales. its sad but all i reallyc are about it gettin in the gym hittin the weights and gettin out.
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
Kreal7 wrote:
My friend’s brother graduated with an English degree and several companies wanted him to come do marketing for them.
What’s funny about that is how many people will tell you that English is such a worthless degree
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well, it doesnt have a direct transition to many other things thats why people say it.
but what i feel matters more than anything is having some kind of degree in the first place. you can get into MOST fields with a degree of any kind. now of course this doesnt mean you can get a Communications BA and wind up being a therapist but somethings just crossover better than others.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
Kreal7 wrote:
My friend’s brother graduated with an English degree and several companies wanted him to come do marketing for them.
What’s funny about that is how many people will tell you that English is such a worthless degree
well, it doesnt have a direct transition to many other things thats why people say it.
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And yet somehow the people who are offering this friend’s brother jobs seem to disagree … strange.
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
Kreal7 wrote:
My friend’s brother graduated with an English degree and several companies wanted him to come do marketing for them.
What’s funny about that is how many people will tell you that English is such a worthless degree
well, it doesnt have a direct transition to many other things thats why people say it.
And yet somehow the people who are offering this friend’s brother jobs seem to disagree … strange.
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i dont think you get what im saying, read the second part of my post again.
youre disagreeing with me when i said that ANY degree can get you a job just because its a degree.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
Kreal7 wrote:
My friend’s brother graduated with an English degree and several companies wanted him to come do marketing for them.
What’s funny about that is how many people will tell you that English is such a worthless degree
well, it doesnt have a direct transition to many other things thats why people say it.
And yet somehow the people who are offering this friend’s brother jobs seem to disagree … strange.
i dont think you get what im saying, read the second part of my post again.
youre disagreeing with me when i said that ANY degree can get you a job just because its a degree. [/quote]
No, I get what you’re saying. But while you’re not in anyway contradicting yourself, the two parts of your statement are separate, adn I’m disagreeing with the first part
I’ve yet to see a fat chick as a PT, however, we do have some working in the child care center and behind the scenes. For the most part, the PTs at the gym I work at (LifeTime Fitness) are in pretty decent shape, save for a couple of the dudes. One is built like he spends most of his time doing curls, and the other has a gut that leads the way, and he’s only around 175 lbs. My biggest beef with them is the attitudes.
While I’m not shredded or anything, I’m pretty damned solid at 250. I talk to people and typically try to keep a friendly attitude to all who come into the gym. This includes the staff. A lot of the PTs walk around like they have a chip on their shoulders, or like their shit don’t stink. I’ve never understood why. I intend to change that a bit when I finally get on the good foot and get certified.
Back to the topic at hand, I agree, it’s a bit disheartening to see obese folk working the gyms, but what are you gonna do? Besides find another gym.
[quote]Kreal7 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i feel like business is the most overrated college degree. everyone i meet who isnt in college is like oh i want to take business. im like, what kind? and then theyre just a little dumbfunded. its the same with people in school too, its like they think you graduate with a business degree and are simotaneously awarded a million dollars.
I used the term “business degree” too loosely. There are many misconceptions about business school.
Those are the same people who won’t make it through business school. They are the people who choose degrees like management, marketing, or supply chain management: mostly useless degrees. My friend’s brother graduated with an English degree and several companies wanted him to come do marketing for them.
Accounting and Finance are the two most valuable business degrees by far and not overrated. I’m in accounting because that is the best knowledge to have in the business world. It’s no coincidence that is the hardest section of the school to get accepted.
Economics is a highly regarded degree by schools, but I really do not know why. Then again making that many assumptions about markets is hard to do with a straight face… A lot of people who choose econ go into law school.
I think there are other worthy degrees such as engineering for a four year degree. If you look at all the science degrees offered you really have to do graduate school to get anywhere and this is assuming you get in.
A girl I worked with graduated with a biology degree and did not get into any graduate programs. She graduated with like a 3.8 and worked all four years.
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Either she went to a really shitty school or she applied to schools that are hard to get in or only applied to like 3 schools or a social reject. 3.8 usually u would get into somewhere. Because, back in the day when I applied, with similar creds, i got acceptances all over Canada, Harvard, Columbia, etc. So I’m not sure what she did wrong.
ANyways, back to the original topic. Perhaps I hold people who work at a gym at a higher fitness standard only because I take training so seriously. The people who don’t look like they workout, probably workout like everyone else and dont’ diet properly, reflective of most ppl in society. They workout for leisure.
[quote]MikeyHDDS wrote:
Either she went to a really shitty school or she applied to schools that are hard to get in or only applied to like 3 schools or a social reject. 3.8 usually u would get into somewhere. Because, back in the day when I applied, with similar creds, i got acceptances all over Canada, Harvard, Columbia, etc. So I’m not sure what she did wrong.
ANyways, back to the original topic. Perhaps I hold people who work at a gym at a higher fitness standard only because I take training so seriously. The people who don’t look like they workout, probably workout like everyone else and dont’ diet properly, reflective of most ppl in society. They workout for leisure. [/quote]
She went to a decent school. I forgot to mention it was veterinary school, which is supposedly harder to get into than medical school. I do not know the validity of this statement. What graduate program did you do?
I don’t know why people are so concerned with others around them at the gym. I just go and get my thing done without saying a word to anyone and leave.
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
Kreal7 wrote:
My friend’s brother graduated with an English degree and several companies wanted him to come do marketing for them.
What’s funny about that is how many people will tell you that English is such a worthless degree
well, it doesnt have a direct transition to many other things thats why people say it.
And yet somehow the people who are offering this friend’s brother jobs seem to disagree … strange.
i dont think you get what im saying, read the second part of my post again.
youre disagreeing with me when i said that ANY degree can get you a job just because its a degree.
No, I get what you’re saying. But while you’re not in anyway contradicting yourself, the two parts of your statement are separate, adn I’m disagreeing with the first part[/quote]
well, it DOESNT have a direct correlation with a lot of fields. how many people do you know that want to be accountants who get english degrees? probaly none if any because english doesnt relate to accounting, but some jobs can relate to others because of small things. for instance, my mom was telling me she was thinking of getting a PT accounting job. i said ma, you dont have any experience and you suck at math. she told me that she did payroll for X years though and its a lot of the same stuff.
i also read something on AOL or MSN about the same thing; people having seemingly worthless english degrees but getting jobs you typically wouldnt associate with them. but keep in mind they werent things like medical assisting or pharmaceuticals where you WOULD need a degree related to the field. in fact i couldnt even tell you the job off the top of my head that she did get, but i think it had something to do with office work.
i would argue 90% of people working in gyms wouldnt be able to get anyone an appreciable amount of muscle even with an infinite amount of time.
id also argue that almost anyone who spent 2 hours googling fitness articles could train people to be average, excuse me - “fit”.
[quote]Kreal7 wrote:
I don’t know why people are so concerned with others around them at the gym. I just go and get my thing done without saying a word to anyone and leave.
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if you walked into a school and you saw all the teachers giving out misinformation would you care? say the teacher said 5+5=11 would still care? i mean by your logic you wouldnt because its not effecting you right?
when you walk into a gym to seek nutritional or training advice you should rest assured that the people in the facility are competent in their field.
yea, i took my own initiative and looked up the information for myself, but you shouldnt have to do that if youre going to a place where its assumed you know wtf youre talking about. and when youre fat working in a gym where the objective usually is to look better, not worse, by being fat you say “i dont know wtf im talking about”. especially if youre a woman.
all the PTs at my gym are seriously ripped from all of the ‘spotting’ that they do for their clients.
Seriously, I don’t think I have seen a single client hit a single rep where the PTs hands didn’t touch the bar at some point.
theres one kinda cool PT at my gym, he has half the people wearing chucks and using logbooks lol. only downside is theyre always on kettleballs and shit. owell, babysteps right?
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
theres one kinda cool PT at my gym, he has half the people wearing chucks and using logbooks lol. only downside is theyre always on kettleballs and shit. owell, babysteps right?[/quote]
could be much worse. kettlebell training is legit. If he has them using logbooks they are tracking PROGRESS. Which is more then most PTs can say.
Honestly, most people don’t want to be jacked. You, me, and people here might want too. But if you can pull a middle aged guy into the shape he was in when he played football in highschool, or the housewife when she was a cheerleader that’s what most people seem to have in mind when they take PT sessions.
My boss (head trainer) thinks “heart rate training” is the greatest thing since sliced bread. It’s like the more degrees and certifications these people have, the worse off they are.
Personal trainers can only do so much though. Even if I write up a three-day total-body routine and include some diet guidelines, if I only train a client two days a week a lot of it is out of my hands. It’s to the point where if someone is willing to train three days but can only afford two I want to throw in the extra session just to get results. Trying to implement even an upper-lower split would be quite a feat.
I was pretty proud after my last orientation though. By the end of the session, I had a guy who had been doing the elliptical for an hour three times a week basically say, “fuck cardio.”