[quote]Eli B wrote:
I think he wont make disastrous and irreperable decisions[/quote]
Are you serious? Really?
One phrase: “Cap and Trade”.
[quote]Eli B wrote:
I support Obama cause I think he has a powerful intellect. I think he wont make disastrous and irreperable decisions like a certain last president named george w bush.[/quote]
Obama is only doing more of what Bush did. Bush’s policys suck and Obama’s are even worse.
Intelligence is on a bell curve, regardless of race. Maybe there are some slight differences between various races, but I’m sure there are about the same proportion of genius or gifted types in each race. I would base some differences we see now on public policy and group think.
But as a pretty smart white guy in school back in the day, many people put down education. Yes, these guys might have been uneducated and trying to make themselves feel better, but it might have an effect on some. throw in a higher rate of poverty, and voila! easy to see how it happens.
My brother in law, who is black is a USNA graduate. He has a lawyer sister and two brothers who graduated for West point and the AFA respectfully. Their parents always preached education and personal responsibility. So the nurture was there. I’m sure they had some nature helping out also.
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
It is not the fault of Affirmative Action. Blacks are quite capable of getting many positions, however the more scientific, mathematic or otherwise mentally involved the position is, the number of blacks capable of reaching it dwindle.
No amount of affirmative action can overcome this, and when dealing in highly complex fields of human mental achievement, the office room ‘joshing’ and ‘jiving’ of the pseudo-intellectual plebian classes, that has overtaken our culture like a rebel virus, is no longer considered cute and acceptable.
Thus the negro mystique and charm wears thin, and only an extreme minority of African Americans are capable of making it. The majority of these fields are people from the upper curves of Indian, East Asian, and European society with a representation of the cultured of the meztizo communities of the world.[/quote]
Empirically brilliant, and very eloquently written. Kudos!!
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
It is not the fault of Affirmative Action. Blacks are quite capable of getting many positions, however the more scientific, mathematic or otherwise mentally involved the position is, the number of blacks capable of reaching it dwindle.
No amount of affirmative action can overcome this, and when dealing in highly complex fields of human mental achievement, the office room ‘joshing’ and ‘jiving’ of the pseudo-intellectual plebian classes, that has overtaken our culture like a rebel virus, is no longer considered cute and acceptable.
Thus the negro mystique and charm wears thin, and only an extreme minority of African Americans are capable of making it. The majority of these fields are people from the upper curves of Indian, East Asian, and European society with a representation of the cultured of the meztizo communities of the world.[/quote]
Empirically brilliant and eloquently written! Kudos!!
I keep seeing references to Obama being black. Isn’t he a mixed race person?
[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
I keep seeing references to Obama being black. Isn’t he a mixed race person?
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Maybe he was drafted by the Black delegation and now is fully Black…much like Tiger…see below…
[quote]Eli B wrote:
I support Obama cause I think he has a powerful intellect. I think he wont make disastrous and irreperable decisions like a certain last president named george w bush.[/quote]
Thank you!!!
I’m just glad one person has enough of a brain to figure out that he was acutally a good candidate…
Is this why EVERY black person that voted for him, voted for him? NO. But black people are not a group of robots, as republicans seem to resemble more and more, then they wonder why they lost the election.
They’re so blinded by the fact that Obama is black that they can’t see how absolutely horrible a job they did in the previous 8 years and how bad their candidate must have been in order to lose to a black man in a less then 20% black country.
Why do blacks blindly follow Obama? .
Your first problem is “Blacks” don’t blindlessly follow Obama. “some” PEOPLE have chosen to blindlessly follow Obama. The majority of those do, are follow him because he is black.
Other blacks stand by Obama…not follow but … “STAND” by him to give him support in hopes that he gets a fair chance. Are his principals identical to everything the church or any other group says?? NO, but what president has perfectly matched any group. The only one I can think of that even comes close is Reagan an actor, and even towards the end of his presidency he clashed with a few of his supporting groups.
Why did so many blacks that never voted vote for him?? For the same reason non robotic party affialiated people voted for him. Obama has been the first major candidate that represented independant thinking and wasn’t a clown.
Look at all the obama threads on here, look at your own post, being black has hurt Obama way more than it helped. He would probably have more support then Bill Clinton if he wasn’t.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
being black has hurt Obama way more than it helped. He would probably have more support then Bill Clinton if he wasn’t. [/quote]
Could you elaborate?
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
I support Obama cause I think he has a powerful intellect. I think he wont make disastrous and irreperable decisions like a certain last president named george w bush.[/quote]
Thank you!!!
I’m just glad one person has enough of a brain to figure out that he was acutally a good candidate…
Is this why EVERY black person that voted for him, voted for him? NO. But black people are not a group of robots, as republicans seem to resemble more and more, then they wonder why they lost the election.
They’re so blinded by the fact that Obama is black that they can’t see how absolutely horrible a job they did in the previous 8 years and how bad their candidate must have been in order to lose to a black man in a less then 20% black country.
Why do blacks blindly follow Obama? .
Your first problem is “Blacks” don’t blindlessly follow Obama. “some” PEOPLE have chosen to blindlessly follow Obama. The majority of those do, are follow him because he is black.
Other blacks stand by Obama…not follow but … “STAND” by him to give him support in hopes that he gets a fair chance. Are his principals identical to everything the church or any other group says?? NO, but what president has perfectly matched any group. The only one I can think of that even comes close is Reagan an actor, and even towards the end of his presidency he clashed with a few of his supporting groups.
Why did so many blacks that never voted vote for him?? For the same reason non robotic party affialiated people voted for him. Obama has been the first major candidate that represented independant thinking and wasn’t a clown.
Look at all the obama threads on here, look at your own post, being black has hurt Obama way more than it helped. He would probably have more support then Bill Clinton if he wasn’t. [/quote]
Was that a serious post?
HOLYMAMMARYGLANDS BATMAN! T-Nation has a fucking delete post function now.
[quote]Eli B wrote:
I support Obama cause I think he has a powerful intellect.[/quote]
Other than how his voice sounds when reading off of a Teleprompter, why do you say this?
What has his “intellect” produced? A book? Well, Obama doesn’t appear to be the actual author of Dreams From My Father. Besides, there’s nothing about the book requiring a “powerful intellect” to write even if he did write it.
Perhaps his Harvard Law Review articles? Uh, no one can find them.
Ah, of course! His thesis. A powerful piece of scholarship, no doubt… uh well actually we don’t know because he had it sealed. No one can read it.
The brilliant executive decisions he made in the past while being in charge of businesses or other organizations? Uh, no, he never ran anything in his life.
His powerfully intellectual history as a Illinois State Senator? Hmmm, we can find nothing except for typically voting “present.”
Or was it as a Community Organizer that this remarkable intelligence was shown?
Or maybe the intellect demonstrated as a US Senator with his participation, nay leadership, in legislation.
Uh, no.
Perhaps some acts as President showing great intelligence? If so, which? Can you find writers, and I’ll take liberals as well as political commentators of any stripe, talking about how intelligent anything he has done as President has been?
Really, why do you say Obama has a “powerful intellect,” other than repeating what others have said, or going off of how his voice sounds when reading from a Teleprompter? (It couldn’t be from how he speaks without a Teleprompter.) Do you have some decision, thought, creation, or act of his in mind that backs this up?
Actually there’s a very strong human tendency to assume degree of intelligence, or lack thereof, from the sound of the voice. If you have fallen into that trap you are hardly the first, nor will you be the last.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
I support Obama cause I think he has a powerful intellect.[/quote]
Other than how his voice sounds when reading off of a Teleprompter, why do you say this?
What has his “intellect” produced? A book? Well, Obama doesn’t appear to be the actual author of Dreams From My Father. Besides, there’s nothing about the book requiring a “powerful intellect” to write even if he did write it.
Perhaps his Harvard Law Review articles? Uh, no one can find them.
Ah, of course! His thesis. A powerful piece of scholarship, no doubt… uh well actually we don’t know because he had it sealed. No one can read it.
The brilliant executive decisions he made in the past while being in charge of businesses or other organizations? Uh, no, he never ran anything in his life.
His powerfully intellectual history as a Illinois State Senator? Hmmm, we can find nothing except for typically voting “present.”
Or was it as a Community Organizer that this remarkable intelligence was shown?
Or maybe the intellect demonstrated as a US Senator with his participation, nay leadership, in legislation.
Uh, no.
Perhaps some acts as President showing great intelligence? If so, which? Can you find writers, and I’ll take liberals as well as political commentators of any stripe, talking about how intelligent anything he has done as President has been?
Really, why do you say Obama has a “powerful intellect,” other than repeating what others have said, or going off of how his voice sounds when reading from a Teleprompter? (It couldn’t be from how he speaks without a Teleprompter.) Do you have some decision, thought, creation, or act of his in mind that backs this up?
Actually there’s a very strong human tendency to assume degree of intelligence, or lack thereof, from the sound of the voice. If you have fallen into that trap you are hardly the first, nor will you be the last.[/quote]
lol
Only retards graduate from Harvard with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude.
Only retards server as professors at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years; as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004 teaching constitutional law.
What a dumbass that Obama is. He should have picked a real degree, like a BA in History. Now that’s what a President needs to run a country.
If you think each or any of those require a “powerful intellect” then you have either a low standard for what that is, or an overestimation of what is required for the things you name.
Can you come up with a decision, thought, creation, or act of Obama’s that shows a “powerful intellect?”
Sorry, teaching a class with material that may be the exact same as others have taught does not require a powerful intellect: neither does correctly regurgitating answers on law.
If there’s a powerful intellect here, surely in all this time in public view there’s GOT to be a decision, thought, creation, or act of his that you can come up with that shows it, if it’s so?
Exactly why do you find it impossible that his intellect may be quite ordinary, for a lawyer? Back up your case.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Only retards graduate from Harvard with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude.
Only retards server as professors at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years; as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004 teaching constitutional law.
What a dumbass that Obama is. He should have picked a real degree, like a BA in History. Now that’s what a President needs to run a country.[/quote]
So, he got a Non-tenure track position. Perhaps he had already sealed his thesis, so they had no written work to judge him on.
And, the way to get tenure is by publishing. I wonder why Obama didn’t do this.
As a black male, he would have been quite desirable a candidate to hire.
PS: Here is some info on getting a job as a law professor, in case any here is thinking of a career change: So you want to be a law professor?
[quote]cremaster wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Only retards graduate from Harvard with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude.
Only retards server as professors at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years; as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004 teaching constitutional law.
What a dumbass that Obama is. He should have picked a real degree, like a BA in History. Now that’s what a President needs to run a country.[/quote]
So, he got a Non-tenure track position. Perhaps he had already sealed his thesis, so they had no written work to judge him on.
And, the way to get tenure is by publishing. I wonder why Obama didn’t do this. [/quote]
Because he didn’t have a Teleprompter feed to let him know what to write.
And because, as there is no money in publishing law articles, Bill Ayres wouldn’t ghostwrite them for him.
More seriously: It is bizarre actually for anyone to be in academia that long and publish NOTHING.
But I know what it was. It wasn’t that his powerful intellect wasn’t coming up with all sorts of valuable intellectual works that were very worth publishing. Oh, that was being created in streams, in droves. But rather, his modesty required hiding his light under a bushel, even though this of course handicapped him at the job he spent so many years at. He’s just that kind of a guy. Not one to blow his own horn.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
More seriously: It is bizarre actually for anyone to be in academia that long and publish NOTHING.
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You’re right. Without the need to publish, Obama held basically a part-time job for 10 years after graduating magna cum laude from Harvard Law School. (Allegedly) Seems to me someone with his intellect could have achieved a little more.
I wonder whether Obama was actually a lecturer in the writing program, and not a ‘Constitutional scholar’ as is claimed.
The word “scholar” can be used for merely a student, so technically there’s nothing false, as Obama was certainly at least that.
Ordinarily though in that context the meaning would be one of producing scholarly works, which Obama did not.
It’s a somewhat similar situation as his “professor” claim. He didn’t actually hold the position of professor, which is the ordinary meaning (although many students who don’t know if their teacher is a professor call him “Professor” anyway) but his university came to his rescue by saying while he didn’t hold that position he “served as” a professor – which I guess means did the instructing a professor might do – and therefore this counts.
(What, someone thought they were going to say he was lying, when – what with being a law school and all – they are no doubt very skilled at using words to make anything sound true?)
Of course, if the context were one of discussing what rank he achieved in academia, the “professor” claim would tend to deceive people into thinking he moved higher up the ladder than he in fact did.