[quote]K2000 wrote:
Black people didn’t vote for Alan Keyes, when he ran for president. Hell, hardly any black people voted for Jesse jackson, when Jackson ran for president. It’s not just racial identification. Hillary Clinton was the preferred Democratic candidate, for most of the black community.
Once Obama won the primary, black Democrats fell in line, because they sure as hell weren’t going to vote for McCain and Palin. McCain voted against a national holiday for Martin Luther King. If you can’t understand why blacks wouldn’t support McCain after that, you’re fucking clueless.
Do some blacks act as if Obama can’t do anything wrong? I haven’t seen that or noticed that, but if it happens, it’s probably for the same reason that Republicans acted like Bush couldn’t do anything wrong… and it’s not racial, it’s partisan.[/quote]
THANK you, K2000!
Great post!
Mufasa
if you didn’t vote for Obama you are a racist.
[quote]K2000 wrote:
Black people didn’t vote for Alan Keyes, >>>[/quote]
Self hating uncle Tom who is in the intolerable habit of demanding responsibility from people and refuses to blame white America for contemporary black issues. In other words a conservative (and boy is he ever), not really black.
[quote]K2000 wrote:
<<< Jesse jackson, >>>
[/quote]
Jesse Jackson is a buffoon and has at no time been a serious candidate.
The question isn’t whether the blacks were talking about would invariably support anybody who is black. The question is why they support Obama. I am guaranteeing you as sure as I’m sitting here that significant numbers of black people who voted in this last election would have been hard pressed to tell you whether McCain was in the house or senate, what state he was from or anything else about him nevermind something from his voting record. I’m betting clip will be along to confirm this of many that he knows personally. I know a couple myself.
[quote]belligerent wrote:
Many blacks are collectively orientated and their race is essential to their identities, i.e. their view their race as an extension of themselves.[/quote]
Isn’t that a little ironic?
[quote]Scuba19 wrote:
[quote]belligerent wrote:
Many blacks are collectively orientated and their race is essential to their identities, i.e. their view their race as an extension of themselves.[/quote]
Isn’t that a little ironic?[/quote]
I don’t think that there’s anything inherent in being black that makes black people any more susceptible to herd-ism than anybody else. Any group with their history in this nation and decades of targeted propaganda would have large numbers exactly where large numbers of American blacks are now. It’s despicable and tragic that rather than pursuing achievement they have been pounded over the head, largely by WHITE liberals, with the poisonous message of vengeful repayment from the wallets of those they’ve been told owe them. It has damaged the country and devastated black families and hence black people. Liberal class and race baiting warfare is evil and destructive and is eating the heart of this nation.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
[quote]K2000 wrote:
Black people didn’t vote for Alan Keyes, when he ran for president. Hell, hardly any black people voted for Jesse jackson, when Jackson ran for president. It’s not just racial identification. Hillary Clinton was the preferred Democratic candidate, for most of the black community.
Once Obama won the primary, black Democrats fell in line, because they sure as hell weren’t going to vote for McCain and Palin. McCain voted against a national holiday for Martin Luther King. If you can’t understand why blacks wouldn’t support McCain after that, you’re fucking clueless.
Do some blacks act as if Obama can’t do anything wrong? I haven’t seen that or noticed that, but if it happens, it’s probably for the same reason that Republicans acted like Bush couldn’t do anything wrong… and it’s not racial, it’s partisan.[/quote]
THANK you, K2000!
Great post!
Mufasa
[/quote]
x2
Absolutely right.
[quote]Scuba19 wrote:
[quote]belligerent wrote:
Many blacks are collectively orientated and their race is essential to their identities, i.e. their view their race as an extension of themselves.[/quote]
Isn’t that a little ironic?[/quote]
they have a spirit called “Black”…
it makes them do stupid and repulsive and evil things…
just like the spirit “Homosexuality”…
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Scuba19 wrote:
[quote]belligerent wrote:
Many blacks are collectively orientated and their race is essential to their identities, i.e. their view their race as an extension of themselves.[/quote]
Isn’t that a little ironic?[/quote]
I don’t think that there’s anything inherent in being black that makes black people any more susceptible to herd-ism than anybody else. Any group with their history in this nation and decades of targeted propaganda would have large numbers exactly where large numbers of American blacks are now. It’s despicable and tragic that rather than pursuing achievement they have been pounded over the head, largely by WHITE liberals, with the poisonous message of vengeful repayment from the wallets of those they’ve been told owe them. It has damaged the country and devastated black families and hence black people. Liberal class and race baiting warfare is evil and destructive and is eating the heart of this nation.[/quote]
The Liberal agenda has destroyed blacks in the US. It’s quite ironic that those who they trust unquestioningly are the ones who are raping them. All the entitlement programs (Welfare, Section 8, food stamps, etc.) along with Affirmative Action, “Diversity” policies, and the constant bombardment of “all white people are evil and racist” has done nothing but created barriers while destroying blacks.
People are literally glad to be in servitude. They line up to cannonize the one who will extend their benefits, their free housing, their food stamps all while not realizing that these are the same policies that keep them impoverished. Willfully ignorant. The same vested interest in keeping them poor lies with the silver tongued politician.
Certainly prudence would dictate a rising income in this populace would be good for tax receipts and thus the government and population itself, but baiting the carrot to the string is obviously much much better for votes. As some previous threads had alluded to, and from my own experience it is economically disadvantageous to WORK your way out of the lower to lower middle class. You are simply punished for working.
My grandmothers caretaker was paid in cash, she made about as much as my mom but it was undeclared. She had free housing, food stamps the works. Now if that income was shown to be claimable on tax receipts, as it will have to be now that she needs another job, she loses purchasing power. Her incentive is to WORK LESS and vote for those who allow that to be possible so she can maintain a standard of living.
Furthermore, the doublespeak about harmony is then permeated with class and race references by politicians in order to solidify votes. They cant decide if they want to shit or get off the pot and voters eat it up in their dutiful ignorance. I have no problem with someone making a decision so long as they can elaborate why.
This was evidenced in Baltimore especially. The mayor was convicted of skimming money from supposed “non profits” and taking tax payer funds for personal purchases. Basically Clay Davis, and the public outcry SUPPORTING her after stealing their money was widespread.
In a nutshell, people are stupid, and democracy is a dangerous form of government susceptible to mass idiocy.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I remember Steve Harvey saying he was supporting Obama during one of his stand up comedy shows, strictly because he was black. He was a bragging about it, about how we need hope and change. Funny, I don’t hear about him much anymore, Harvey that is. [/quote]
Yeah he’s got a radio show that comes on every morning from 6-10 in the morning. From listening to him talk about Obama, it seems like ke feels Obama can do no wrong and anyone who is critical of him is eaither a racist or uncle tom.[/quote]
I had this discussion with a black co-worker of mine. He straight said that he’d support Obama no matter what he did because he was black. I didn’t like the conversation because he started to twist it as if I was the racist for questioning him on that. Meh.
[quote]brnforce wrote:
[quote]clip11 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I remember Steve Harvey saying he was supporting Obama during one of his stand up comedy shows, strictly because he was black. He was a bragging about it, about how we need hope and change. Funny, I don’t hear about him much anymore, Harvey that is. [/quote]
Yeah he’s got a radio show that comes on every morning from 6-10 in the morning. From listening to him talk about Obama, it seems like ke feels Obama can do no wrong and anyone who is critical of him is eaither a racist or uncle tom.[/quote]
I had this discussion with a black co-worker of mine. He straight said that he’d support Obama no matter what he did because he was black. I didn’t like the conversation because he started to twist it as if I was the racist for questioning him on that. Meh. [/quote]
The fact that you work with this individual is your own fault. If you had studied something academically rigourous there’d be no blacks in your office to hear that from.
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
[quote]brnforce wrote:
[quote]clip11 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I remember Steve Harvey saying he was supporting Obama during one of his stand up comedy shows, strictly because he was black. He was a bragging about it, about how we need hope and change. Funny, I don’t hear about him much anymore, Harvey that is. [/quote]
Yeah he’s got a radio show that comes on every morning from 6-10 in the morning. From listening to him talk about Obama, it seems like ke feels Obama can do no wrong and anyone who is critical of him is eaither a racist or uncle tom.[/quote]
I had this discussion with a black co-worker of mine. He straight said that he’d support Obama no matter what he did because he was black. I didn’t like the conversation because he started to twist it as if I was the racist for questioning him on that. Meh. [/quote]
The fact that you work with this individual is your own fault. If you had studied something academically rigourous there’d be no blacks in your office to hear that from.[/quote]
Did you really just say that? LOL. He has a black co-worker,so he obviously failed at life. Way to take us back in time AND berate brnforce in the same breath. It’s obviously the fault of affirmative action,right??..lol.
The underlying ignorance in your post is just as horrible as those black people who support Obama no matter what because he is one of “us.”
I,myself,am fairly disappointed…and it has nothing to do with skin color. I “drank the kool-aid” and thought he would be different…but he is just more of the same. Politicians are either red or blue…and both colors equal “shit brown.”
Wow!
this forum is amazingly ignorant
its like a big cake…its so good
omg omg omg omg omg omg i want more
omg omg omg
It is not the fault of Affirmative Action. Blacks are quite capable of getting many positions, however the more scientific, mathematic or otherwise mentally involved the position is, the number of blacks capable of reaching it dwindle.
No amount of affirmative action can overcome this, and when dealing in highly complex fields of human mental achievement, the office room ‘joshing’ and ‘jiving’ of the pseudo-intellectual plebian classes, that has overtaken our culture like a rebel virus, is no longer considered cute and acceptable.
Thus the negro mystique and charm wears thin, and only an extreme minority of African Americans are capable of making it. The majority of these fields are people from the upper curves of Indian, East Asian, and European society with a representation of the cultured of the meztizo communities of the world.
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
[quote]brnforce wrote:
[quote]clip11 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I remember Steve Harvey saying he was supporting Obama during one of his stand up comedy shows, strictly because he was black. He was a bragging about it, about how we need hope and change. Funny, I don’t hear about him much anymore, Harvey that is. [/quote]
Yeah he’s got a radio show that comes on every morning from 6-10 in the morning. From listening to him talk about Obama, it seems like ke feels Obama can do no wrong and anyone who is critical of him is eaither a racist or uncle tom.[/quote]
I had this discussion with a black co-worker of mine. He straight said that he’d support Obama no matter what he did because he was black. I didn’t like the conversation because he started to twist it as if I was the racist for questioning him on that. Meh. [/quote]
The fact that you work with this individual is your own fault. If you had studied something academically rigourous there’d be no blacks in your office to hear that from.[/quote]
That’s some great trolling there champ. I’m an air traffic controller so I bet I’ve got you beat.
It’s probably a little late for me to throw in my 2 cents but here goes.
Oh, for the record I’m black too.
I think alot of it has to do with groupthink. Obama is “our” man and he’s gonna help “us”. I think people who were open mined and did their research didn’t fall for it.
[quote]newbatman wrote:
political leaders nowadays are Jesuit… because the Rome has 1/4 the gold on earth and can buy office to increase that ratio…[/quote]
Holy Fucking Shit… I agree with some of this shit fountain your spewing. I feel slightly loony now.
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
It is not the fault of Affirmative Action. Blacks are quite capable of getting many positions, however the more scientific, mathematic or otherwise mentally involved the position is, the number of blacks capable of reaching it dwindle.
No amount of affirmative action can overcome this, and when dealing in highly complex fields of human mental achievement, the office room ‘joshing’ and ‘jiving’ of the pseudo-intellectual plebian classes, that has overtaken our culture like a rebel virus, is no longer considered cute and acceptable.
Thus the negro mystique and charm wears thin, and only an extreme minority of African Americans are capable of making it. The majority of these fields are people from the upper curves of Indian, East Asian, and European society with a representation of the cultured of the meztizo communities of the world.[/quote]
I understand what your saying and despite the racist undertones(Did you really use the term negro mystique?) am somewhat(reluctantly) agreeing. Blacks(in America) were systematically breed to be athletic… and unintelligent - not to mention the institutionalized racism in place designed to keep it just that way. However I call myself living proof that this system was not successful in fully exterminating all levels of high intelligence in blacks.
Still i find all this almost irrelevant because the large majority of every race is completely unintelligent and incapable of any real thinking.
I digress… Obama… Well I for one can’t defend him. Also irrelevant though because all democrats and all republicans are horrible candidates for US president. Shoulda voted libertarian(resisting the urge of ranting on how disguisting the 2 party system in America is).
[quote]Eli B wrote:
I support Obama cause I think he has a powerful intellect.[/quote]
Good point. I’m certainly not questioning Obama’s intellect. I think hes a pretty smart guy. The issue here is after his short time in office its obvious his interest are not the American people(and ironic to your post his interests fall in the same boat as that same last president your referring to).
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
The fact that you work with this individual is your own fault. If you had studied something academically rigourous there’d be no blacks in your office to hear that from.[/quote]
I’m not going to waste my time telling you something is inherently racist. You already know this. However, I’ll ask - What is your profession?
I think you’re taling about a group of people who previously didnt follow politics, you said something about breaking their necks to vote in this one.
I think arent well versed in politics partially because they are taken for granted by the democrats who give them mostly empty promises. Of course thats better than the republicans and theyre thinly veiled disdain.
anyway it made politics accessible to a group. Theyre not experts but its probably a step in the right direction.
And for the record Im talking about previously apolitical blacks…they’re are of course plenty of politically savvy blacks.
I support Obama cause I think he has a powerful intellect. I think he wont make disastrous and irreperable decisions like a certain last president named george w bush.