You should improve at trolling. You’ve really fallen into the pattern of basically doing the same thing over and over again. I think you’re getting lazy. And you make the same type of post after almost every post he has. “Oh he’s saying things I like. It’ll be funny if I act like I don’t again!”
If you’re going to waste everyone’s time by never trying to contribute at least mix it up.
How exactly is diversity responsible for all these improvements?(its not) In non white countries, colonialism is responsible for all these improvements, especially non white doctors. 1st world countries, mainly European conceived and developed all those things you mentioned.
Diversity isn’t too great for these 3rd world countries. The native doctors that they have ,get out ASAP to the first world for higher paying jobs, a better standard of living. They stay there, and leave their 3rd world countries as understaffed shitholes.
The first world never had a problem training its own doctors, we never actually needed them.
Yes you are so right America is not like any other country or empire before it. It can’t collapse. They were all populated by people like yourself who were in denial until the last minute. Remember the unsinkable ship the Titanic, it sunk.
I’ll say it again, look at your country for the last year, its tearing itself apart.
Peace and harmony are relative, even a deaf dumb and blind man can tell things have not been like they are in America over the last year, since perhaps the civil war.
Your arguments are feeble and childish and only work on people with no idea of history or the memory of a goldfish.
Once again your losing it on an emotional level. If diversity worked we would be living in the utopia you were promised and we wouldn’t even be having this discussion because there would be no problems. You can’t talk your way logically out of this argument, and your emotional insults and drivel doesn’t work on me.
What is it with you and these little scenarios you make up, then try to act like they come from me. There gay little ideas and they’re coming from your own head.
You say demonstrably untrue, but then don’t go on to explain what these areas are.Non existent argument, weak as piss.
Your population is so high because you’ve been importing so many people into your country in recent decades, especially since the 1965 immigration act.
What a dumb question, but I’ll humour you. I was born where I live, it happens to be thousands of miles away from you. The website might be American in origin, but we live in an international world. Its called the world wide web for reason? I’ve told you before why I like Americans and America so much before, and what they used to stand for. They were a beacon of hope, arguably the apogee of civilization in all the history of mankind. That is inherently changing, into something much worse, a mentally diseased state, weaker in comparison to its former self. If it was a person, America at the moment is in the mid stages of dementia, where your grasp of reality is comprimised and only getting worse
You’ve stated you anti whitism either consciously or unconsciously in nearly everything you post. It doesn’t necessarily have to be open hatred of white people or white values, but it can be. Diversity in terms of immigration and demographics, equates to less white people. Even in the previous post you sung the praise of diversity.
You might think I’m the only one expressing the problem of white replacement, in traditionlly European countries, like America. In reality there are plenty of others and even more that might not have a raised level of consciousness to it, but when questioned will admit that there is a trend and it is real. You have numerous times dismissed the problem totally, or if it is an issue that its not important. Here’s one example
[quote=“H_factor, post:586, topic:273536”]I don’t spend a lot of my time thinking “holy shit a white family was killed in a car accident today and a mexican woman had a baby. Just another step closer to not being the majority.
H"I realize it’s not a big fucking deal. The white majority has been diminishing here for quite some time. We have plenty of problems in America and plenty of great things. That isn’t a problem."
Its the tone of your posts, like I’ve said you may not even be conscious that you are doing it. Either way its anti white, buddy.
Buck Fiden? Glad to see the dumbass nicknames didn’t go anywhere. Also I haven’t said anything remotely worshipping about Biden. Just because he was better than a toddler doesn’t mean I worship him. But again nuance doesn’t get far with you. “He must worship Biden. He’s communist. He hates white people!” You should stop inventing positions for people.
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There is no invention. I’ve quoted Biden several times where he said “White people, of European descent will soon be a minority in America for the first time, and its a good thing. An unrelenting stream of immigration. Diversity is our greatest strength.” That my friend is anti white. You love diversity, you’ve stated it many times, yet like Biden never bothered, or was never been able to articulate why it is good.
That is the globalist, communist mantra, and its anti white. You support it by default at the very least.
Did you vote in the last election? If you did, we all know it wasn’t for Trump. If you did vote for Biden, then you’ve made your bed and you’ve got to lie in it.You love Biden, come on admit it. For arguments sake it doesn’t matter whether you did vote because now you’ve got Biden and all his insane race based anti white polices, like defund the police, bringing in any illegal, and freeing the ones already there from detention.
Anyways, I will be away for a while and don’t have any time to devote your posts, so it might be a while before I can give a response. Tootles you son of a biscuit. 
You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say diversity is awful…but as it’s gone up all these things have got amazingly better. That pretty much destroys your entire argument which wasn’t hard because it doesn’t follow what’s happened in the world.
Of course it can collapse. Any country can. I’ve never said it couldn’t. And the chicken littles have been saying it since the country started.
Not really in the least bit. We were never supposed to make it through the civil war, the depression, the 60’s, etc. Hell you know people were saying we’d never survive one more year of GWB on this very forum. And then Obama. And then Trump. And now Biden. Spoiler alert they will be saying the exact same thing when the next President comes in.
I know this may be hard for you to imagine given you’ve never set foot in the country but it’s not tearing itself apart. It may read like that in the alien talking one world order giant conspiracy sites that you frequent. But that doesn’t make it true. Anymore than me reading some article about the problems in Australia and me wringing my hands.
This isn’t an argument. It’s more word vomit.
No one has ever made this argument in here. Utopia didn’t exist before diversity and it wouldn’t even if all the things you wanted to happen did. Humans have and always will be flawed.
You always start to bring up gays when you’re getting destroyed. I believe you did that last time as well. Doesn’t change anything, but you think about gays a lot for whatever reason.
Our population was high before that. And I believe you kept going on and on about a different act in the last immigration debate you got schooled in so glad you moved to a different one. But this doesn’t really matter. If America was as bad as you think why do so many people live here? It’s not like the only place to live.
Yes it is called the World Wide Web. A place where diversity is abound. And guess what a lot of diversity in the people that made the site you’re on a success. People are interacting with people in other cultures more than ever and you’re partaking in that. You’re just saying oh this thing we’re all doing is super bad!
You don’t know much about America though. That’s what makes arguing with you about it difficult.
Ok so just to be clear you can’t find that post because it doesn’t exist. In your head I must be anti white because I don’t hate people who aren’t white. I love white people I just don’t feel that I’m superior in any way because I’m white. That’s the difference. You’re very caught up in race and I’m not. Which is weird because your ilk always says stuff like all they do is talk about race. Not really in the least bit. You’re the one who constantly is on here hand wringing over a country far away from you having a declining white majority. Your thoughts and posts are far more race based than mine will ever be. I don’t spend much time thinking about it. Had a great lifting session with people today who were white, black, Hispanic. We made it out fine.
Nope. Just like the chicken littles of America those people were crying about how awful it was when slavery ended. Your kind isn’t new. Wrong, but not new.
Oddly enough we used to have more white supremacists types posting here than we do now. Some of them left and some got banned. They weren’t missed. But we always have some. And you’re making the exact same arguments they were. Oddly enough most of them were foreigners like you. Desperate to tell us how minorities were destroying everything.
Then why not cut your own nuts off?
See above.
They died.
Ha, we agree on at least one thing.
This is absolutely not true and you would know it if you lived here. My father lived through times much worse than the ones we find ourselves in currently. I mean holy shit - forget the 60s race riots? Vietnam? EVERYTHING ELSE?
That’s true, and I would agree that we need more family cohesiveness. I think the actions of family and charity are essential, and that we have drifted away from that for many reasons. I am also 100% in favor of removing for-profit hospital models from existence.
However I disagree that the safety net serves no purpose (a real purpose as opposed to a cynical, self serving political one). I also think that - regardless of what SHOULD happen - that charity is not currently capable of addressing all the problems we have purely on its own. It’s not reality.
Let’s also be clear on what I’m referring to here - I’m not referring to people who choose to remain on welfare when they could work… > No safety net at all means no food for a percentage of people and also no homes rented or otherwise. It also tracks with increases in crime… because if you can’t eat you find a way to try to eat.
You and I both agree that incentives for work should remain strong and we should work to eliminate all gaming of the system. We both agree that we don’t want any more people on welfare than necessary, and we don’t want them on welfare for any longer than is unavoidable.
I don’t know here. Sometimes these efforts cost more than the benefit. I think there might be a sweet spot where allowing some gaming of the system is overall more efficient. Another downside of allowing no gaming of the system, is that in systems with less ability to game the system, the people that actually need the benefits are often unable to jump though all the hoops to get the benefits. I think it is a balance.
We have seen stuff like this in the past. In my neighboring state, they were planning on drug testing all welfare recipients (I think monthly). When they saw how much more that would end up costing them, they a ditched the idea.
This is stupid and shows what they think of people on welfare. Drug testing should be ordered but only with just cause. The problem is, what do you do if someone tests positive? Take away their welfare and let their kids starve?
I tend to think that there is a minimum standard that everyone should get if they can’t provide it for themselves. I would like to see that the kids of these people don’t suffer. It doesn’t seem right. I think offering breakfast and lunch at school is a good thing. Some of the stuff recently about shaming children who can’t pay for the meals is pretty awful. I think that is a benefit (free school meals) we could just offer everyone regardless of need.
This is an oversimplification, but the drug addled welfare cheats I’ve known over the years aren’t prioritizing their children’s nutrition. Or their children, period.
The argument in practical terms amounts to “my child will starve if you don’t keep giving me SNAP cards that I can trade for cash to buy drugs with.”
The child’s already slim chances are not improved when mom and whoever else is around receive a subsidized lifestyle of addiction.
Drug testing welfare isn’t a panacea and I’ve not yet thought it through to consider if it is even a good idea. What I do know is that inter generational state dependence has not produced a single happily ever after story among the addicts I’ve been acquainted with.
Who could ever have predicted something like that? Hopefully Biden passes a two trillion dollar study on how to stop the cycle of addiction and poverty.
Is anything? That seems like an awfully high bar. Is everything we have capable of addressing all of the problems we have?
It’s not just the drug addicted parent (s).
The liberal (in this case referring to centre right) government in Australia is trying to implement a system testing the wastewater of those within low income neighbourhoods for illicit drugs (actually scratch that, I think they’ve already put this initiative in place). Under this proposal inhabitants within neighbourhoods found to have abnormally high concentrations of any given substance are subjected to random drug testing (urinalysis). This proposed model will be able to detect if an individual has theoretically used illicit drugs within a timeframe not always particularly indicative of recent use (as one can see here https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/publications/publishing.nsf/Content/drugtreat-pubs-meth-toc~drugtreat-pubs-meth-app~drugtreat-pubs-meth-app4)
This data hasn’t been updated since 2003, I wouldn’t be surprised if testing has become even more sensitive/stringent as we appear to have gotten stricter and stricter over our own “war on drugs” taken straight out of the USA’s textbook.
Those who test positive will be switched onto a cashless welfare card. Therefore one will still receive welfare and be able to spend government accrued funds on food/basic necessities. Generally I’d be all for this, however the cashless welfare card has been applied punitively; to my knowledge various indigenous and low socio-economic communities have been handed down cashless welfare cards regardless of whether they’ve returned a positive test/been drug tested at all. I don’t wish too sound woke, but if one looks at our sociopolitical dilemma vs the USA it becomes apparent Australia may legitimately TO THIS DAY harbour discriminatory policies towards their indigenous population. Look up “the stolen generations”… this went on here until the 1970’s…
The cashless welfare card is quite costly and doesn’t appear to be all that effective. I also have qualms regarding the level of privacy, or lack thereof pertaining to financial records incurred through spending on these cards.
Perhaps it’d make sense to roll out a similar initiative within the USA albeit with selective application/with the loopholes taken care of @mnben87?
I don’t think testing positive for smoking cannabis last week ought to eliminate one from being a welfare candidate, there are some obvious drawbacks assocaited with drug testing. Unfortunately we don’t have access to highly sensitive time specific testing. Or if we do for that matter, these aren’t the methods being chosen to weed people out of eligibility.
All one has to do is give their card to someone else to use on groceries, who then gives the card holder the amount spent in cash. It’s an old trick.
As a former CPS employee, I can tell you they would take away the kids AND the welfare.
Drug screening is a huge part of my job. For urine, those numbers are REALLY out of whack. There is no way you are testing positive for weed in urine 4 weeks after the last time you used, even if you smoke sun up to sun down. Same with the benzos. No way. The benzos may go out about 9 days if you are REALLY abusing them (to the point all you do is wake up and take enough to pass out and then repeat). The weed would rarely ever go past a week.
Given the number of people who would fail a drug test, would there even be enough foster homes for all of those kids?
Definitely not. A whole lot of kids are put into group homes (like a nicer orphanage kind of arrangement).