If you make fun of my religion, I can consider that to be hate speech and you should go to jail for it
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What about people more than just saying it a bit, if they are loud and persistently rant?
This seems about where Iām at too. Actual calls to violence or harm are what I would consider to be hate speech.
@Alrightmiami19c how do you feel about people shouting āFireā in a crowded theatre?
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Iām having a hard time detecting if this is sarcasm or not, so Iām just going to play dumb and say āI disagreeā
Something similar happened in China a few years ago. nearly a dozen ppl died and tens more got seriously injured
If a Muslim says all Jews are evil. Itās not hate speech.
If a Muslim says all Jews should die. Itās not hate speech.
If a Muslim says we should kill all Jews. Itās not hate speech.
It needs to be a specific call to act, conspiring to do harm to someone else.
Communism has killed millions of more people than National Socialism. Would you prevent people from advocating it?
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Then theyāre either not being harmed, or theyāre agreeing to be harmed.
I can loudly and persistently ignore them. Do you have any examples that would cross the boundary into āthis shouldnāt be allowedā for you?
Itās sarcasm but it had a point to itā¦the way the cancel culture is going donāt be surprised if this advocated by the extremes
Agreed. Silly, but not hate speech
Disagree. But the law may back you. To me, saying all X should die is a definite call to action.
98% chance the person reading this has no idea why.
I was just picking a random example of a philosophy thatās evidently caused harm.
My thoughts on those two specific examples though, since you ask, is that 1930s style National Socialism specifically advocates exterminating and enslaving races due to āpoor bloodlinesā etc. whereas communism doesnāt explicitly state it. Therefore one would be hate speech, one would just be silliness.
If someone yells out something like, āHey you asshole [south Asian epithet], fuck off and get out of here!ā. If the speaker is maybe angry at the target person, and plays the race reference while they are at it. They might start to increase the rate at which the reference gets normalized in the minds of casual listeners.
Also other South Asian people could hear it and wonder if a similar speaker might have a low threshold for spouting off to them if they are near. The āusā and āthemā border gets drawn.
I donāt have to care what those extremes think. Again, equating being a bit silly (wokeness etc.) with advocating death is just deliberately muddying the water.
1930s germanyā¦
Banned guns
Controlled the media
Controlled speech
Banned books
Indoctrinated kids in school
Sound familiar
You will care when they target you
What is your opinion of fundamental Islamās various Hadiths and scriptures that are direct, unambiguous calls for violence?
Hate speech aāla Hitler, silliness or āotherā?
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Sounds like any number of societies throughout history. While I donāt like those ideas, they are just ideas without the threat of violence to enforce them. To me, the threat of violence is the issue.
I dunno dude, Iām middle class, straight, white, fully able and approaching middle age at a fair old clip. I reckon Iāll be fine.
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