OMG, are you guys kidding me with this thread? IMO, these comments alone totally discount all your other opinions. Flame away…
I remember God created the heavens and the Earth , I do not rember anything about God creating the Angels or the Devil. I remember Lucifer being full of pride and was expelled from Heaven , BUt I never heard that God created angels or Satan
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I remember God created the heavens and the Earth , I do not rember anything about God creating the Angels or the Devil. I remember Lucifer being full of pride and was expelled from Heaven , BUt I never heard that God created angels or Satan[/quote]
God created everything, so by extension, he created satan.
[quote]colt44 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I remember God created the heavens and the Earth , I do not rember anything about God creating the Angels or the Devil. I remember Lucifer being full of pride and was expelled from Heaven , BUt I never heard that God created angels or Satan[/quote]
God created everything, so by extension, he created satan. [/quote]
You will have to excuse me , where did it say God created everything, did he create himself
[quote]garcia1970 wrote:
OMG, are you guys kidding me with this thread? IMO, these comments alone totally discount all your other opinions. Flame away…[/quote]
What am I supposed to flame at, I can’t pick apart your reasoning or your premises because you’re not very clear in what you’re saying. 
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]colt44 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I remember God created the heavens and the Earth , I do not rember anything about God creating the Angels or the Devil. I remember Lucifer being full of pride and was expelled from Heaven , BUt I never heard that God created angels or Satan[/quote]
God created everything, so by extension, he created satan. [/quote]
You will have to excuse me , where did it say God created everything, did he create himself [/quote]
God doesn’t have a beginning, he wasn’t created.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]colt44 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I remember God created the heavens and the Earth , I do not rember anything about God creating the Angels or the Devil. I remember Lucifer being full of pride and was expelled from Heaven , BUt I never heard that God created angels or Satan[/quote]
God created everything, so by extension, he created satan. [/quote]
You will have to excuse me , where did it say God created everything, did he create himself [/quote]
God doesn’t have a beginning, he wasn’t created.[/quote]
I was asking for scripture to back up that god did not create himself or satan ?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
- So wearing shirts made of mixed fibers and eating shellfish are not sins… Yes or no?
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What a fool for mentioning an ancient Levitical civil custom and trying to equate it to a sin. It wasn’t a “sin” then and it isn’t now. It was a violation of a civil law 3,000 years ago that was unique to ONE culture and for reasons that are irrelevant in this discussion.
Nothing more pathetic than some scoffing bozo-trying-to-be-a-Bible-scholar online.
Type these words up and hang on to them. Maybe you can figure out a way to take them with you when you die. If you can’t then make sure you memorize them so you can preach this little sermon to your Creator, Savior and Judge some day when you stand before Him.
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Hmm seems I’ve hit a tender spot with you ;).
So these laws no longer apply? According to?.. Exactly where in the bible does it state that these laws are obsolete?
You’ve yet to prove this creator or his judgment, so until further notice I won’t be worried about it.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
Hmm seems I’ve hit a tender spot with you ;).
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Sure thing, hombre.
I’m under no obligation to teach the Bible to Joe Blow Skeptic on the internet.
Google is your friend.
No, I sure haven’t. Aint gonna start doing it now. That’s between you and Him.
Ho hum.
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Well, google tells me that these laws aren’t decreed obsolete in the bible and you’re cherry picking which verses to follow… but I doubt that’s what you wanted me to find 
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
Well, google tells me that these laws aren’t decreed obsolete in the bible and you’re cherry picking which verses to follow… but I doubt that’s what you wanted me to find
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Google nor anyone else told you any such thing, DisingenuousTime. You know it. I know it. Your mom knows it.
The only cherry picker is Tony-the-pseudo-Bible-scholar-Tiger. Your posts and mine reflect that. You have no idea what you’re talking about it; you’re simply arguing because you’re on the internet. You’re throwing stuff up hoping it will stick. You’re certainly more capable talking about medieval Irish history but you’re hopelessly out of your league here.
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http://www.atheistperspective.net/p/bible-verses.html << Oh well, you can’t win em all…
Seriously though, you can find any expressed opinion on Google… It just wasn’t a smart move to try and call me out on something than could be shown to be true simply by using Google to find a site that suggests Christians cherry-pick.
I don’t know why you’re trying to make it out as though I came here to argue with you. YOU responded to ME. I’m not forcing you to respond to my comments and you’re free to not respond to me anytime.
This is a very simple game of logic; God has condemned wearing clothes with mixed fibers, eating shellfish, etc. You say these laws are obsolete so I ask you were in the bible these laws have been decreed as such. If this can’t be done (and I don’t think it can) then I guess these things are still banned as far as God’s concerned.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]colt44 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I remember God created the heavens and the Earth , I do not rember anything about God creating the Angels or the Devil. I remember Lucifer being full of pride and was expelled from Heaven , BUt I never heard that God created angels or Satan[/quote]
God created everything, so by extension, he created satan. [/quote]
You will have to excuse me , where did it say God created everything, did he create himself [/quote]
God doesn’t have a beginning, he wasn’t created.[/quote]
I was asking for scripture to back up that god did not create himself or satan ?
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Wait, I do not understand. You are asking for scripture to back up what exactly?
No, don’t think so. I’m not interested in engaging someone who already knows more than he needs to learn.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
Heaven, to me, is simply accepting yourself in your entirety. Hell is when you go on splitting yourself, rejecting certain parts for other parts. The most miserable people I know are those who claim to be “religious” for this reason. The most joyous people I know don’t even judge themselves, they simply accept themselves as they are. How can God cast judgment on such a man? How can God allow such a man to be subjugated to eternal torture? I cannot believe in any such God.
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Type these words up and hang on to them. Maybe you can figure out a way to take them with you when you die. If you can’t then make sure you memorize them so you can preach this little sermon to your Creator, Savior and Judge some day when you stand before Him.
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Heh. It is so easy to tell which posters don’t have kids.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
Heaven, to me, is simply accepting yourself in your entirety. Hell is when you go on splitting yourself, rejecting certain parts for other parts. The most miserable people I know are those who claim to be “religious” for this reason. The most joyous people I know don’t even judge themselves, they simply accept themselves as they are. How can God cast judgment on such a man? How can God allow such a man to be subjugated to eternal torture? I cannot believe in any such God.
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Type these words up and hang on to them. Maybe you can figure out a way to take them with you when you die. If you can’t then make sure you memorize them so you can preach this little sermon to your Creator, Savior and Judge some day when you stand before Him.
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Heh. It is so easy to tell which posters don’t have kids.
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Has kids? TigerTime IS is a kid! He’s an 18 year old Bible expert. Just when I thought it couldn’t get any worse around here with all the 21 year old college experts we’ve actually fallen a level to High School.
He’s still 3 years away from being able to have a legal beer. Just started driving two years ago. And now he knows everything there is to know about the Bible.
(shaking head) What’s next? Debating 8th grade students on the merits of capitalism?
I’ve had enough I’m outta here…
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]colt44 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I remember God created the heavens and the Earth , I do not rember anything about God creating the Angels or the Devil. I remember Lucifer being full of pride and was expelled from Heaven , BUt I never heard that God created angels or Satan[/quote]
God created everything, so by extension, he created satan. [/quote]
You will have to excuse me , where did it say God created everything, did he create himself [/quote]
God doesn’t have a beginning, he wasn’t created.[/quote]
I was asking for scripture to back up that god did not create himself or satan ?
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Wait, I do not understand. You are asking for scripture to back up what exactly?[/quote]
That God created the angels
Balance