Maybe you can go to the Guiness World Records and invent the “eccentric deadlift” record.
[quote]Cronus wrote:
Its funny the responses people give when they are baffled by a question. [/quote]
I think you may be the baffled one if you didn’t know this was a troll job from the first post.
The whole “I can bench 2x BW” bullshit just confirms it.
Pretty sure I could guess at least one of the OP’s other screen names in 3 shots or so too.
PB Andy, thanks man that helps a lot.
- Eccentric only training is impractical
- It’s hard to train with enough frequency with this type of training without injury or CNS burnout.
- Thus the lack of training frequency doesn’t allow you to grow at an optimal pace.
- Everyone will think you’re retarded lol
If you want to do eccentric only training just to experiment then you could do concentric only training during the “recovery” days to promote recovery and further growth. I would do eccentric only training maybe twice a week at the most. I wouldn’t turn this into a habit though. I assume you’re just doing this to experiment right???
[quote]bking wrote:
- Eccentric only training is impractical
- It’s hard to train with enough frequency with this type of training without injury or CNS burnout.
- Thus the lack of training frequency doesn’t allow you to grow at an optimal pace.
- Everyone will think you’re retarded lol
If you want to do eccentric only training just to experiment then you could do concentric only training during the “recovery” days to promote recovery and further growth. I would do eccentric only training maybe twice a week at the most. I wouldn’t turn this into a habit though. I assume you’re just doing this to experiment right???
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Russian did studies on eccentric vs concentric training around 1950’s and ofc as we all now the eccentric part of the movement is not important.
When your contractive strenght increase so does the eccentric strenght.
ofc it is good to control the weight to avoid injuries, but if we could train anyway without a sloppy eccentric phase would be optimal to force the muscle to genereta as much force in as short time as possible to stiumlate growth.
training for muscle growth is simple physiqs, the more newton you force your muscles to generate the more you stimulate it.
[quote]gregron wrote:
LULz fa show!
concentricless DL’s FTW!!![/quote]
- Unrack bar (loaded with OP’s 3x bw of course…)
- Put weight down.
- ???
- Profit!
Maybe he could train with someone wanting to do an eccentric-less workout (there was a thread on here last week about dropping the bar at the top of the DL, then the guy wanting an eccentric-less workout could lift the weight, this guy could then take over and lower it, doing this over and over again with every rep of every set of every exercise. Oh they could be such friends!!!
BOSU BALL OVER HEAD SQUATS . you sit on your bosu ball in the squat rack under the bar , grasp the bar with both hands , brace your self then get the biggest M/F to kick the bosu ball away and lower your self in a slow and controlled manor .
The question is an interesting one from a theoretical standpoint.
However having focused heavily on eccentric part of the lifting portion for 10 plus years i.e 3-4 seconds plus and concentric 1-2 seconds, i can seriously say now that i dropped the eccentric focus down to around 1 second and explosively lift my weights, the gains are way more superior in terms of performance, strength, recovery and growth,
The eccentric portion is a red herring!! Its over rated and overloads the nervous system too much.
Cronus wrote:
Its funny the responses people give when they are baffled by a question.
More like baffled as to how ridiculous some people are.
Apparently it is a legitimate training strategy for the deadlift for
a short time. I believe there was research supporting it and some guy
ah Charles Bailey on DrSquat and another at Westside enjoyed good gains.
I believe it was common strategy for elite russian lifters.
It is one strategy I am going to give a miss though.
Until my deadlift is a lot higher.
One component of the stimulus for muscle growth is fatigue. I think the main value of the concentric is that it creates the fatigue which makes the muscle suceptible to micro-damage during the eccentric. For the same reason, the most of the cariovascular and metabolic benefits of resistance training are derived from the concentric.