Why Can't Spock Get Men?

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
Oh once a year would be awesome that means I’ll be getting laid next month! haha.

Umm
The last guy I fucked was a friend of a bouncer that I met at a pub. Right I met a bouncer and we talked and he introduced me to his friends and we all hung out and one of his friends added me to facebook and we started messaging and then we hung out and fucked etc…

But he didn’t want to date me cause ‘his life situation was just too fucked at the moment’
The guy before that was the maintenance man who worked at the gym I worked at.

I really liked him, he made me laugh a lot. I tried to get him for over a year. We fucked for a couple months but he didn’t want me to tell anyone and stuff. He didn’t want a relationship, but he didn’t really give me any reasons as to why.

I fucked someone like 2 years before him
Oh.
That was Stuart
HAHHA
Stu and I fucked twice but then he told me he loses interest the second he proves he can get what he wants
Two years before that I fucked my friend Luc who was a fitness monitor of the gym I worked at.
He was nice, and probably would have dated me, but I wasn’t really interested
Ya…
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Well it sounds to me that you can get men. And, so I am sure if you keep doing what your doing you will find the right fit.

Shit, the guy you fuck next month might be him.

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
my dad is mental[/quote]
There’s a saying out there, something about apples and trees and falling and proximity . . .

Might be applicable. :wink:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
Oh once a year would be awesome that means I’ll be getting laid next month! haha.

Umm
The last guy I fucked was a friend of a bouncer that I met at a pub. Right I met a bouncer and we talked and he introduced me to his friends and we all hung out and one of his friends added me to facebook and we started messaging and then we hung out and fucked etc…

But he didn’t want to date me cause ‘his life situation was just too fucked at the moment’
The guy before that was the maintenance man who worked at the gym I worked at.

I really liked him, he made me laugh a lot. I tried to get him for over a year. We fucked for a couple months but he didn’t want me to tell anyone and stuff. He didn’t want a relationship, but he didn’t really give me any reasons as to why.

I fucked someone like 2 years before him
Oh.
That was Stuart
HAHHA
Stu and I fucked twice but then he told me he loses interest the second he proves he can get what he wants
Two years before that I fucked my friend Luc who was a fitness monitor of the gym I worked at.
He was nice, and probably would have dated me, but I wasn’t really interested
Ya…
…[/quote]

Oh my…[/quote]

Ohhh please don’t say anything mean !! My heart can’t take much more of this [/quote]

You are just so… textbook.

Pregnant by bouncer, check, sex with friend of a bouncer, check, the more they do not go the provider route, the more they ignore you and treat you like a side piece the more likely to have sex with you, check…

You better ramp up your game hard because you have tasted the forbidden fruit, in this case alpha cock and the average nerdish beta who would treat you like a goddess will probably never be enough for you again.

The very least that will do is probably a higher beta and that means you need to graduate from the little league to at least the semi-pros.

Plus, new rule:

No sex before the fifth date!

DATE!

Not “hanging out”, not “getting together with friends”.

DATE!

DATE! DATE! DATE!

!!!

Well the maintenance guy wasn’t very alpha. He was overweight and lived in his sisters basement. He was 36 at the time…

And the friend of a bouncer didn’t seem very alpha either. He still lived at home and had a really shitty job…
Are they still alpha? Is my alpha radar really off ??

[quote]Spock81 wrote:

Ohhh please don’t say anything mean !! My heart can’t take much more of this [/quote]

Do not be overwhelmed.

Q: How do you eat an elephant?

A: One bite at a time.

You’ve been given a lot of advice, some good, some bad. Write the good stuff down, even if you think it is unattainable. Make it your dream list. An elephant of a list to make your life better.

Now prioritize the list.

Start eating the elephant.

It’s the same discipline as a proper workout routine and plan. Your log shows you know how to do this, so I fully expect a man-killer to post her pictures in, say, 6 months.

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
Well the maintenance guy wasn’t very alpha. He was overweight and lived in his sisters basement. He was 36 at the time…

And the friend of a bouncer didn’t seem very alpha either. He still lived at home and had a really shitty job…
Are they still alpha? Is my alpha radar really off ??[/quote]

You have a point.

Wayne Gretzky, they were not.

But, since alpha is situational, they probably were for you and they treated you as if they were.

Somehow you missed out on placing yourself on the right rung of the social pecking order, while bouncers will hit on anything, maintenance guy should never have gotten the idea to approach you.

Here is the thing, the whole deal is basically sex for committment and vice versa.

That means that high value male will get sex without commitment while a high value female will get committment without sex.

By value, I mean sheer attractiveness.

The defining characteristic of people like “sluts” or “beta orbiters” are selling their goods way too cheap, in fact they simply throw it at the other parties feet in the hope to get what they want.

But, if the other party already has what they wanted, why would they negotiate any further?

You are seriously, seriously, seriously underestimating what you bring to the table which is why you give it away for free.

Make a profile on OkCupid that shine a light on your physical assets, not to meet someone, but to get a sense how much demand for what you bring to the table there actually is out there.

In Emilies thread a woman tried to deliberately make the worst possible profile and it still got tons of emails because the picture was hawt.

Seriously, do it, you do not need to answer to any of them and you can delete it after one week or so, but you need to know how skewed your perspective really is.

Include pic with yoga pants.

From behind.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Test Icicle wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Test Icicle wrote:
nvm

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It was a good point though. Maybe not constructive, but I agree.[/quote]

It wasn’t constructive, by maybe someone else can make a go of it.

Jen; you’re a 13 year old boy trapped in a 27 year old woman’s body with a 10 year old girl’s view of how dating and relationships should work.

The idea that “it” (relationships, meeting people) should somehow be easier than it is, your 10 month unrequited crushes, and the idea that you only hit guys that you’re crushing on is pure %100 Disney-created fantasy land.

The thing is, you’re frickin’ cute which is an advantage MILLIONS and MILLIONS of women don’t have. So, start thinking about what it means to be an adult woman. Not because it means giving up video games, but because it means realizing how the world actually is and not how you want it to be.
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I think you pegged it. And I can’t disagree with anything Ruff said either.

So many of you miss the point about the fake boobs too. It’s not necessarily about the visual they provide to men but more so the confidence and sexiness they provide to the women who have them. Women who have them KNOW they look good with them and that oftentimes changes the woman’s attitude.

They typically cost $5000 - 10,000 but the payoff can be enormous (no pun intended).[/quote]

Personally I would feel absurd with fake breasts. Orion’s right about the vibe, it would alter everything about Spock, who is fresh and real and lovely - and for what purpose? I can’t imagine her being comfortable being hit on by advanced womanizers like you or thethirdruffian. And I don’t mean this to be mean, but ruffian is setting her up to be what, one of the women he fools around with and dumps?

I mean, maybe Spock would feel more womanly with fakes. If so, that’s fine. I would just feel more plastic-y and less me and confused about what the men wanted.

Can you look good naked in clothing? NO!

Forget clothing. It just ends up all crumpled up on the floor anyways.

I like ACs advice about some kinky undergarments.

Spock,

Serious advice coming your way.

Stop reading and participating in this thread. You don’t need a bunch of people on the Internet that you don’t know telling you to basically change everything about yourself to get a man.

You don’t need to buy a whole brand new wardrobe.
You don’t need to dye your hair a completely different color
You don’t need to get big fake boobs.
You don’t need to change who you are in order to get someone to love you.

Here is, IMO, what you should do:
Put a little more effort into your appearance. A little bit of make up, maybe a more form fitting outfit here and there that flatters your physique.

Put more effort into putting yourself out there (this does not mean putting out lol) go on more dates, real dates. It’s 2014 now… If you like a guy or think he’s cute then don’t be afraid to ask him to get a drink or go to happy hour or something.

You are cute and you seem to be dedicated in the gym… These are two huge pluses in a woman.

That is really all I have for you. You seem like a sweet girl and a good mom with a big heart. Just be confident and put yourself out there a little more and see what’s out there. Start looking in new places. Bouncers and friends of bouncers are no go’s :wink:

Good luck Spocky

Greg nailed it.

Men are extremely visual and physical. Wear some tighter more flattering clothes and try to make sure your makeup is on point. No need to go over the top, but we appreciate a woman who takes care of herself. Play off of your strength and our weakness.

We will fuck a girl if even she is a thunder cunt (at least for a little while until we get sick of her shit) so long as she is hot. But since you don’t come off like a flaming twat, you will be viewed as a keeper.

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
Well the maintenance guy wasn’t very alpha. He was overweight and lived in his sisters basement. He was 36 at the time…
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[quote]Spock81 wrote:
Ahh people want me to get tits, new clothes, move out, get a car, get my hair done.

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I don’t want you to do any of that except maybe get a car.

I want you to be the best mother you can be. I want you to keep living with your parents (unless its a problem) because that’s your son’s family and you shouldn’t take his family away from him.

Oh, I also want you to get a boyfriend and don’t think you need to do all that superficial bullshit to do it. I think you just need to take initiative with guys.

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
Oh once a year would be awesome that means I’ll be getting laid next month! haha.

Umm
The last guy I fucked was a friend of a bouncer that I met at a pub. Right I met a bouncer and we talked and he introduced me to his friends and we all hung out and one of his friends added me to facebook and we started messaging and then we hung out and fucked etc…

But he didn’t want to date me cause ‘his life situation was just too fucked at the moment’
The guy before that was the maintenance man who worked at the gym I worked at.

I really liked him, he made me laugh a lot. I tried to get him for over a year. We fucked for a couple months but he didn’t want me to tell anyone and stuff. He didn’t want a relationship, but he didn’t really give me any reasons as to why.

I fucked someone like 2 years before him
Oh.
That was Stuart
HAHHA
Stu and I fucked twice but then he told me he loses interest the second he proves he can get what he wants
Two years before that I fucked my friend Luc who was a fitness monitor of the gym I worked at.
He was nice, and probably would have dated me, but I wasn’t really interested
Ya…
…[/quote]

Well it sounds to me that you can get men. And, so I am sure if you keep doing what your doing you will find the right fit.

Shit, the guy you fuck next month might be him.[/quote]

Any chick offering to be a sperm receptacle can get men. Seems she doesn’t bring much else to the table to keep them around. Possibly the amount of baggage outweighs any positives. But these guys can’t really be blamed for being in the right place at the right time when a single mom is in desperate need of sexual contact every year and a half, then moving on after that has been accomplished.

Game for girls: returnofkings (dot) com/7543/american-girls-have-no-game

[quote]K.F.P wrote:

Any chick offering to be a sperm receptacle can get men. Seems she doesn’t bring much else to the table to keep them around.
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Yes, she does!

She just does not believe it, so why would anyone else?

Hence my five date rule, so that they have a chance to find out?

Boom.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
OK, I’ve seen the picture of you a Chris Lloyd or whoever that is, so here the advice from a reformed man-whore:

  1. Men are 99% visual for sex. There was a link from someone who had a fake match.com profile with a hot chick whose profile was a complete bitch that proved this point. So work on visuals.

  2. You are pretty, but a bit vanilla looking. As in, you fade into the background for no good reason. There are far less-good-looking women who project sexuality far better because they dress in certain ways. Now, that may just be the picture that day, but you make-up and whatnot does not represent who we know you to be. In brief, you need to tramp it up a little (just a little), in a classy way. Black hair, blond hair, red hair. Just not light brown — for now.

  3. You are petite-looking to me and already thin. This is a very good thing. I would embrace this and get absurdly low body fat. You could diet for 60 days and have the body of a fitness model.

  4. Everyone will hate me for this, but I don’t see any boobs on you in the picture. Now this may be a poor shirt or bra choice, or you may be flat. Well, get a new bra and shirt, or go get fake boobs for $5000 American. A petit girl with your face and big boobs will have men falling over their dicks to have sex with you.

Now, after that, the key is to not turn into a bitch and still seek the guys you purport to want.[/quote]

[quote]K.F.P wrote:
Seems she doesn’t bring much else to the table to keep them around.

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Excuuusssssssssseeeeeee moi!

That maintenance man and I spent every single shift together laughing and flirting with one another for over a year. I was not just a one night stand. And in the midst of our two month fuckary he got in an accident and basically couldn’t move one of his arms so I offered to help even with just simple things like vacuuming or whatever. BUT, for some reason, that would have meant us going from co-workers to fuck buddy’s to something more substantial and that scared the crap out of him.
He had issues…

And the bouncer’s friend texted me multiple times per day for weeks before we ever got together. I listened to him bitch and complain about his “fucked up life situation” non-stop and I was tryyyinngg to be sympathetic about the whole thing.
But he turned out to be an alcoholic.
And a pot head

And back at that time stuart was probably the biggest asshole known to man.

Maybe these people had nothing to offer ME? All they brought to the table was their penis’ and their shitty personalities. I was the fucking prize.

Whatevaaaaaa