Why Can't Spock Get Men?

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
“daddy, what does it mean to be white knighted”?

dad pulls up this thread and shows son[/quote]
Son becomes misinformed and confused lol. Did this happen to you?[/quote]

yes, clearly I was so off base that you didn’t even feel the need to acknowledge it.

denial[/quote]

if you need to classify it, it would be a mild form of internet beta orbiting. [/quote]

I don’t know, beyond people saying that Spock is plenty pretty enough to interest men, which she certainly is, the thread has seemed pretty honest about acknowledging that there must be an issue and trying to identify it to help her.

“You obviously have an issue” isn’t what I usually think of as flattery. [/quote]

You are right, there is no pedestalizing.

Well, in that case people like her and try to help.

To praphrase Sherlock Holmes, if all cynical answers have failed, we are left with the ones assuming good intentions.

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I have nothing to constructive to contribute as I can’t get men either, but I do love seeing my username on the most popular thread currently! Enjoy this Canada-related picture, friends

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[quote]orion wrote:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/female-beauty-from-5-to-7/

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/female-beauty-from-1-to-10-2/[/quote]

This is lovely. And uncannily accurate.

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Spock, you made me go from be a lurker, to finally joining T Nation.

I just wanted to add my 2 cents to your situation:

  1. Learn to drive and get yourself among people. It will be uncomfortable for a while, but the more you do it, the easier it will become. Otherwise, don’t expect your situation to change. Confidence comes after doing anything for a period of time. Sometimes it takes longer for some people, but it will come eventually.

  2. You are not the “typical” woman. And, while this should be a good quality,(and is) most guys are used to certain types of women and when they meet someone who doesn’t fit a particular mold, it can throw them off and make them a little uncomfortable. Throw a child into the mix and it can make things a little more complicated.

  3. Don’t change anything that you honestly like about yourself. Putting yourself in uncomfortable situations to enrich your life is one thing, but to compromise who you are for the sake of someone else is another. Like who you are, then find someone who loves you for it. It’s hard, but it’s worth it.

Just another way of looking at this, Spock. Good luck.

My apologies if someone has stated the same things.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/female-beauty-from-5-to-7/

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/female-beauty-from-1-to-10-2/[/quote]

Well, the ‘objectivity’ surprised me a lot there. Outside of the 10 (which I really only see as an 8), everything I said matched very very closely with the stats.

I didn’t realize there was actually that little statistical variance.[/quote]

Looking at the pictures on the test validates that fake boobs and window dressing (fitting clothing, hair, makeup) can take a 5-6 to about an 8-9.

Look at this girl’s face. She consistently scores 8-9s. Her face is a weak 6, at best.

But made up, thin, and those fantastic tits, she’s scores a solid 8.

Yes, yes, you have to have nice legs, etc. But boobs are the easiest to fix and have a solid 1-2 point impact on the girl.

Worth every penny.

+++++

And all the people telling you your great personality will score men are not doing you a favor. In an ideal world, where intentions matter, as opposed to what you can bring to the table actually mattering, maybe they have a point. In a real world, personality makes a relationship and is more important in the long run, but without the initial lust, there will be no relationship.

So, diet unhealthily for a bit, do something dramatic with hair and makeup, wear some fitted clothing, and, if you can swing it financially, get one size bigger implanta than you think is a good idea at first.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/female-beauty-from-5-to-7/

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/female-beauty-from-1-to-10-2/[/quote]

Well, the ‘objectivity’ surprised me a lot there. Outside of the 10 (which I really only see as an 8), everything I said matched very very closely with the stats.

I didn’t realize there was actually that little statistical variance.[/quote]

Looking at the pictures on the test validates that fake boobs and window dressing (fitting clothing, hair, makeup) can take a 5-6 to about an 8-9.

Look at this girl’s face. She consistently scores 8-9s. Her face is a weak 6, at best.

But made up, thin, and those fantastic tits, she’s scores a solid 8.

Yes, yes, you have to have nice legs, etc. But boobs are the easiest to fix and have a solid 1-2 point impact on the girl.

Worth every penny.

+++++

And all the people telling you your great personality will score men are not doing you a favor. In an ideal world, where intentions matter, as opposed to what you can bring to the table actually mattering, maybe they have a point. In a real world, personality makes a relationship and is more important in the long run, but without the initial lust, there will be no relationship.

So, diet unhealthily for a bit, do something dramatic with hair and makeup, wear some fitted clothing, and, if you can swing it financially, get one size bigger implanta than you think is a good idea at first.
[/quote]

Yeah, but you know, there are boobs men and there are others.

I think I know what category you fall into.

To me, they are not terribly important but show me a nice trained ass in yoga pants and you have my attention.

Also, I dont think that you can divorce fake boobs from the rest of the person, including her personality and what she is looking for.

Your psycho-stripper ex-aquaintance and fake boobs?

Yeah, that fits very well.

On a shy, introverted, would like her to meet my mother, girl next door, looking radiantly healthy single mother?

Cant you not see that while it might enhance her tits and even be an attention getter in the short run that it would ruin her whole vibe?

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[quote]Spock81 wrote:

That’s a good starting point. Your bio reads like a teenage girl stuck in a fantasy world of comic books and video games. But at the same time you are a 27yr old Woman and has a child. There must be something you give off that men can read a mile away. Maybe they get confused to whom they are dealing with, a Chick who is a kid at heart with a sexual appetite. Or single Mom looking to date someone serious while raising her son. Are you complicating things for yourself by the messages you are giving off? Have you been broken down & consumed with baggage of your circumstances? You manage to have sex every now and then, so something must be working to attract them. Relationships are not just handed out, there must be chemistry and you need to work at it to build one.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Test Icicle wrote:
nvm

[/quote]

It was a good point though. Maybe not constructive, but I agree.[/quote]

It wasn’t constructive, by maybe someone else can make a go of it.

Jen; you’re a 13 year old boy trapped in a 27 year old woman’s body with a 10 year old girl’s view of how dating and relationships should work.

The idea that “it” (relationships, meeting people) should somehow be easier than it is, your 10 month unrequited crushes, and the idea that you only hit guys that you’re crushing on is pure %100 Disney-created fantasy land.

The thing is, you’re frickin’ cute which is an advantage MILLIONS and MILLIONS of women don’t have. So, start thinking about what it means to be an adult woman. Not because it means giving up video games, but because it means realizing how the world actually is and not how you want it to be.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/female-beauty-from-5-to-7/

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/female-beauty-from-1-to-10-2/[/quote]

Well, the ‘objectivity’ surprised me a lot there. Outside of the 10 (which I really only see as an 8), everything I said matched very very closely with the stats.

I didn’t realize there was actually that little statistical variance.[/quote]

Looking at the pictures on the test validates that fake boobs and window dressing (fitting clothing, hair, makeup) can take a 5-6 to about an 8-9.

Look at this girl’s face. She consistently scores 8-9s. Her face is a weak 6, at best.

But made up, thin, and those fantastic tits, she’s scores a solid 8.

Yes, yes, you have to have nice legs, etc. But boobs are the easiest to fix and have a solid 1-2 point impact on the girl.

Worth every penny.

+++++

And all the people telling you your great personality will score men are not doing you a favor. In an ideal world, where intentions matter, as opposed to what you can bring to the table actually mattering, maybe they have a point. In a real world, personality makes a relationship and is more important in the long run, but without the initial lust, there will be no relationship.

So, diet unhealthily for a bit, do something dramatic with hair and makeup, wear some fitted clothing, and, if you can swing it financially, get one size bigger implanta than you think is a good idea at first.
[/quote]

I do believe big fake titties maybe be your achilles heel.

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Spock,

It’s time to grow up. Start dressing and acting like an adult. Your altricial behavior is being reinforced by living with your parents. As others have said, you need to start interacting with other adults.

I would second angrychicken’s advice.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/female-beauty-from-5-to-7/

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/female-beauty-from-1-to-10-2/[/quote]

Well, the ‘objectivity’ surprised me a lot there. Outside of the 10 (which I really only see as an 8), everything I said matched very very closely with the stats.

I didn’t realize there was actually that little statistical variance.[/quote]

Looking at the pictures on the test validates that fake boobs and window dressing (fitting clothing, hair, makeup) can take a 5-6 to about an 8-9.

Look at this girl’s face. She consistently scores 8-9s. Her face is a weak 6, at best.

But made up, thin, and those fantastic tits, she’s scores a solid 8.

Yes, yes, you have to have nice legs, etc. But boobs are the easiest to fix and have a solid 1-2 point impact on the girl.

Worth every penny.

+++++

And all the people telling you your great personality will score men are not doing you a favor. In an ideal world, where intentions matter, as opposed to what you can bring to the table actually mattering, maybe they have a point. In a real world, personality makes a relationship and is more important in the long run, but without the initial lust, there will be no relationship.

So, diet unhealthily for a bit, do something dramatic with hair and makeup, wear some fitted clothing, and, if you can swing it financially, get one size bigger implanta than you think is a good idea at first.
[/quote]

Yeah, but you know, there are boobs men and there are others.

I think I know what category you fall into.

To me, they are not terribly important but show me a nice trained ass in yoga pants and you have my attention.
[/quote]
Agreed. Don’t know if it’s genetics or what, but some men are just programmed differently. Boobs are not terribly important to me at all unless the chick is literally just fuckin flat, which Jenn is not. I’m definitely an ass man, and I recall a census taken not that long ago on TNation in which team ass came out well ahead of team teat.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Yeah, but you know, there are boobs men and there are others.
[/quote]

Sure, but it enhances the overall package. Certainly doesn’t hurt.

Go for the hot librarian look. Maybe a tight sweater and a Bible with a cover.

+++++++

More to the point, the blond who rates 8-9s is uglier than Spock, who rates herself at a 6.

Spock already has the fitness, but lacks the easy parts: dress, boobs, hair, etc.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/female-beauty-from-5-to-7/

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/female-beauty-from-1-to-10-2/[/quote]

Well, the ‘objectivity’ surprised me a lot there. Outside of the 10 (which I really only see as an 8), everything I said matched very very closely with the stats.

I didn’t realize there was actually that little statistical variance.[/quote]

Looking at the pictures on the test validates that fake boobs and window dressing (fitting clothing, hair, makeup) can take a 5-6 to about an 8-9.

Look at this girl’s face. She consistently scores 8-9s. Her face is a weak 6, at best.

But made up, thin, and those fantastic tits, she’s scores a solid 8.

Yes, yes, you have to have nice legs, etc. But boobs are the easiest to fix and have a solid 1-2 point impact on the girl.

Worth every penny.

+++++

And all the people telling you your great personality will score men are not doing you a favor. In an ideal world, where intentions matter, as opposed to what you can bring to the table actually mattering, maybe they have a point. In a real world, personality makes a relationship and is more important in the long run, but without the initial lust, there will be no relationship.

So, diet unhealthily for a bit, do something dramatic with hair and makeup, wear some fitted clothing, and, if you can swing it financially, get one size bigger implanta than you think is a good idea at first.
[/quote]

Yeah, but you know, there are boobs men and there are others.

I think I know what category you fall into.

To me, they are not terribly important but show me a nice trained ass in yoga pants and you have my attention.
[/quote]
Agreed. Don’t know if it’s genetics or what, but some men are just programmed differently. Boobs are not terribly important to me at all unless the chick is literally just fuckin flat, which Jenn is not. I’m definitely an ass man, and I recall a census taken not that long ago on TNation in which team ass came out well ahead of team teat.[/quote]

Maybe its still out there in the Interwebz archive, the Vegitas Ass Whorship thread was the most succesful T-Nation thread EVER.

Because we gotta have priorities, you know?

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Ahh people want me to get tits, new clothes, move out, get a car, get my hair done.

MONEY PEOPLE
M
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N
E
Y

I make 2500 dollars a month ! I can afford ONE of these things.

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I can’t recall who said it but “nobody ever looked across a room and said ‘now there’s a personality I’d like to meet…’”

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[quote]orion wrote:
Maybe its still out there in the Interwebz archive, the Vegitas Ass Whorship thread was the most succesful T-Nation thread EVER.

Because we gotta have priorities, you know?[/quote]

It’s still out there. I found it once upon a time.

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It’s not all money my dear.

Do your parents own a car?
Will they loan it to you to learn to drive?

If you answered “yes” to the above two questions then learning to drive won’t cost you a damn thing at the moment since I’ve already said I’d volunteer my time. If they won’t lend you a car we can use mine but you’ll find learning in an automatic is a lot easier in the winter than learning in a stick (my car) but either way you have my number, and my facebook, and my T-Nation handle, let’s set up your first driving date.

STU

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Also, you don’t have to get a car right away, learn to drive first. Heck just being able to borrow a car from your parents evenings and weekends to take the munchkin places so the two of you can do things would be awesome! Let alone the freedom to take the car sometimes to do some nice adult stuff (not necessarily drinking or anything but maybe take salsa lessons, they run every sunday night at Salsaddiction and it’s a great way to meet a bunch of fun loving people for a fun activity at a nice low cost).

STU