[quote]kellyc wrote:
Bigragoo, I checked out your photos. Dude, your fat with poor symetry. Do you train Traps at all? I give credit where credit is due. Your girl is kinda cute.[/quote]
Um, the pics I have are for Joel’s diet. They are not supposed to be flattering. That’s why I look like a slouch. Fat? No. Chunky? Yes. I admit that, which is why I agreed to the diet. However, if you need better pics I’m not afraid to deliver. BTW, what do you look like??
[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
kellyc wrote:
Bigragoo, I checked out your photos. Dude, your fat with poor symetry. Do you train Traps at all? I give credit where credit is due. Your girl is kinda cute.[/quote]
And I hope you realize that negative comments only push me to do better. So thanks, and you’ll see more of me in 8 weeks.
[quote]redsox348984 wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
I’ve been training a long time and ave seen minimal gains and it aint half pissing me off.
it isnt diet - that’s near perfect. I’m now looking at training intensity - dunno whther Im pushing myself too hard? I train one muscle group each session (sometimes 2 - tri’s and chest etc)
I’m not sure if the weight I’m using is too heavy? I normally do 5 sets of 5 and by the 4th set Im struggling to make 5 reps, though the following week I will try and get 5 reps out of all 5 sets and once I can do that I will try and up the weight the next session. the first few reps seem to go up pretty easy - does this sound right to you?
I sleep well, eat well- 6+ meals with protein in each, between 80-100 grams of fat, enough carbs and about 250 grams of protein. post workout I will consume 100 grams of maltodextrin and have about 40-50 grams of whey protein then 1 hour later have a meal that’s low in fat.
though when I say I sleep well - sleep is usually interupted when I need to take a leak and that happens 2-3 times a night.
I train at home but have all the necessary equipemnt to build a decent physique - bench, squat rack, pull up bar, EZ barm dumbells, barbells.
I wish I knew where I was going wrong.
I’m about 69 inches tall, 160lbs
maybe you need to eat a little more[/quote]
not when you get fat on the cleanest of diets - my diet is always clean. even though it’s clean it’s BIG, big enough to cause fat gain, so now I’ve altered it slightly by lowering everything slightly.
I can easily gain fat but muscle is just so hard to come by.
I’m thinking my SHBG levels could be high and will be having that tested soon.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
I’m now looking at training intensity - dunno whther Im pushing myself too hard? I train one muscle group each session (sometimes 2 - tri’s and chest etc)
I wish I knew where I was going wrong.
You do, but you don’t.
Try compound/ multi joint lifts. Scrap the body part splits.
There is no comparison in intensity between the amount of effort required to squat or deadlift compared to a set of tricep kickbacks and some of the other isolation type exercises.
(unless your triceps are the size of your glutes, hams and quads combined with your erector spinea and abdominals, which would be odd to say the least)
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I focus primarily on compound lifts. have tried various routines but none of them seem to work significantly [insert puzzled look here]
[quote]WguitarG wrote:
I agree with Bigragoo on this one. I also think volume might be his culprit, as 5 x 5 for a muscle group once a week is nothing for volume. If I’m hitting a muscle group once a week, I’m going to be hitting it for a good 14-18 hard sets, depending on how I feel that particular day. Oh, and you definitely need to eat more.
You are eating way to clean for your body type. I’m a fortunate individual in that I can maintain 220 at 11% w/ 3000 calories, makes shedding the blubber difficult, but some ppl like yourself will have to eat much more to gain to any appreciable size. For instance, I have a good friend of mine I’ve been advising now for about 8 months. He was your classic skinny kid who complained that he couldn’t gain weight no matter what.
Well, this kid is now the pinnacle of determination for skinny guys like yourself, I have him eat at least 5500 calories per day, and sometimes right before bed he will drink a 1000 calorie shake ontop of the 5500 calories he’s already ingested. In 8 months he’s gone from 155lb to 175lbs, and he still has a six pack.
Hell, I bulked to 245 on 4000-4300 calories per day, but he has taken the cards he’s been dealt and come up with a damn fine hand in the end. Take your weight every two weeks…if nothing has changed…provided you have gotten your training in gear…add calories…repeat.
BIGRAGOO wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
it isnt diet - that’s near perfect. I’m now looking at training intensity - dunno whther Im pushing myself too hard? I train one muscle group each session (sometimes 2 - tri’s and chest etc)
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cheers.
I see what you’re saying but I tend to gain fat easily. my diet is clean and that’s just the way it is, Ive always eaten well. even though it’s clean, It’s still big enough to gain fat from?!!?? I’ve had to alter it slightly to stop the fat gain. if i had 6500 cals daily I would end up looking like michael moore ina very short space of time!! lol
[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
kellyc wrote:
BTW, what do you look like??[/quote]
Indeed. I think anybody who criticizes someone else’s physique on here should be mandated to provide a picture of themselves.
[quote]wannbeBIG wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
it isnt diet - that’s near perfect. I’m now looking at training intensity - dunno whther Im pushing myself too hard? I train one muscle group each session (sometimes 2 - tri’s and chest etc)
You’re not training with enough intensity. You just answered your own question.
how have I?
I’m always comepletley wacked after a session. I usually do 10-12 sets HEAVY,
how did I answer my question?
I find that only training 1 muscle group per session allows me to put all my effort and focus into that muscle.
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Ok, if that’s the case, and you’re not progressing, switch it up. Try a couple of body parts in a session. And if you’re using near maximal weight in your heavy sets, try doing five heavy, then five for reps. The point I’m getting at is something has to change in your total routine.
[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
kellyc wrote:
Holy shit. I’m responding after only reading about the first ten posts and based on those posts, this thread should actually be called “Revenge of the Fatsos” or “Let the Fatsos be heard”. Something like that.
What a bunch of ignorant shits.
No, it’s hate on skinny, lazy, know it all fucks. There hasn’t been a fat poster in this thread. Just more serious lifters that are tired of reading the same stupid shit from the same type of people. [/quote]
I saw your pics bigragoo and I didn’t know that the serious lifters are supposed to look like the average fat and bald guy we see walking out of McDonald’s as we drive past it.
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
kellyc wrote:
BTW, what do you look like??
Indeed. I think anybody who criticizes someone else’s physique on here should be mandated to provide a picture of themselves.
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I hate getting in to these arguements, but I know my faults and I know what I need to do. I don’t make excuses, though I have plenty of reason to (just look at my scar), I just do what I have to do and I’m not afraid of exposing my true self. I hold myself accountable, and I show that I hold myself accountable. If things aren’t going in the direction I want them to, I know it’s something I’m not doing. I don’t blame outside possibilities. It all lies in me.
[quote]BRONIUS wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
kellyc wrote:
Holy shit. I’m responding after only reading about the first ten posts and based on those posts, this thread should actually be called “Revenge of the Fatsos” or “Let the Fatsos be heard”. Something like that.
What a bunch of ignorant shits.
No, it’s hate on skinny, lazy, know it all fucks. There hasn’t been a fat poster in this thread. Just more serious lifters that are tired of reading the same stupid shit from the same type of people.
I saw your pics bigragoo and I didn’t know that the serious lifters are supposed to look like the average fat and bald guy we see walking out of McDonald’s as we drive past it.
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I’ll say it again, watch and see. The pics you see right now are the worst I can make myself look. So if you base your opinion on those, you’re in for a big surprise.
[quote]BRONIUS wrote:
I saw your pics bigragoo and I didn’t know that the serious lifters are supposed to look like the average fat and bald guy we see walking out of McDonald’s as we drive past it.
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All this from a stat-less pic-less nobody. Let’s see your amazing physique. Please shut me up with your awesomeness.
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
kellyc wrote:
BTW, what do you look like??
Indeed. I think anybody who criticizes someone else’s physique on here should be mandated to provide a picture of themselves.
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Shut up, fatty!
Great post - all I can say is thanks to the help and honest replies from everyone on this site, the people at Waldbaums are beginning to know my name, sort of like a grocery store version of “Cheers”…there’s the angry produce dude, the down on her luck cashier, lol.
[quote]wannbeBIG wrote:
I focus primarily on compound lifts. have tried various routines but none of them seem to work significantly [insert puzzled look here]
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You should see the puzzled look I get when people say that they train one or two body parts(tris/pecs) then follow it up by saying that they do to full body. It’s priceless.
Which one is it?
Start a thread posting your actual weekly exercise regiment.
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
kellyc wrote:
BTW, what do you look like??
Indeed. I think anybody who criticizes someone else’s physique on here should be mandated to provide a picture of themselves.
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I agree in principle, but, considering how candid I’ve been on this site, I’m not sure it’s a good idea. I don’t want to get a call from my wife’s Mom or something like that.
Also, I make no bones about it. I am waaay too skinny. And, there’s not a damn thing I can do about it with the chronic injuries I have.
[quote]kellyc wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
kellyc wrote:
BTW, what do you look like??
Indeed. I think anybody who criticizes someone else’s physique on here should be mandated to provide a picture of themselves.
I agree in principle, but, considering how candid I’ve been on this site, I’m not sure it’s a good idea. I don’t want to get a call from my wife’s Mom or something like that.
Also, I make no bones about it. I am waaay too skinny. And, there’s not a damn thing I can do about it with the chronic injuries I have.[/quote]
So wouldn’t you agree that taking pot shots at someone who does post a pic from a guy that is basically just a name and won’t put up a pic just an ass? I say that not just to you, but to all the people that crap on another yet won’t list any stats or pics of themselves. It’s easy to just rip on someone from the security of anonimity.
[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
it isnt diet - that’s near perfect. I’m now looking at training intensity - dunno whther Im pushing myself too hard? I train one muscle group each session (sometimes 2 - tri’s and chest etc)
You’re not training with enough intensity. You just answered your own question.
how have I?
I’m always comepletley wacked after a session. I usually do 10-12 sets HEAVY,
how did I answer my question?
I find that only training 1 muscle group per session allows me to put all my effort and focus into that muscle.
Ok, if that’s the case, and you’re not progressing, switch it up. Try a couple of body parts in a session. And if you’re using near maximal weight in your heavy sets, try doing five heavy, then five for reps. The point I’m getting at is something has to change in your total routine.[/quote]
but that’s it though - it’s not like Ive hot a plateau - my gains have always been shit and that’s after 6 years of training! I only bench 170-180lbs in 6 years!!
I’ve tried loads of different routines, high intensity, low intensity, more frequent workouts, high rep ranges, low rep ranges, more sets, less sets, full body routines, spilts, it’s just not happening and I just don’t know what to do about it.
I always get down about it and then I’ll read about a new routine on the net and my optimism returns only for it to be wiped away a few months later after seeing no gains in the way fo size.
I’m totally lost and confused by all this and it makes things worse when i see my brother getting bigger and bigger 
thanks for the help everyone, appreciate it 
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
I focus primarily on compound lifts. have tried various routines but none of them seem to work significantly [insert puzzled look here]
You should see the puzzled look I get when people say that they train one or two body parts(tris/pecs) then follow it up by saying that they do to full body. It’s priceless.
Which one is it?
Start a thread posting your actual weekly exercise regiment.
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huh?
I never said Im currently doing a full body? I said I focus on compound lifts?!!
Ive tried full body routines before in the past (been training 6 years)
currently doing 1-2 bodyparts a day - although my gaisn have been shit, Ive had the best success with this.
My there is alot being vented in this thread. I thought I’d throw in my 2 cents for no other reason than I can
While I agree that newbies should search and read, quite often you’re not sure where to start. It’s a case of too much information. If, when you joined, there was a link to a newbies article/FAQ that not only was there in front of you but also placed itself into your favourites there might be less of the threads that seem to annoy everyone.
Just a thought
Cheers
[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
So wouldn’t you agree that taking pot shots at someone who does post a pic from a guy that is basically just a name and won’t put up a pic just an ass? I say that not just to you, but to all the people that crap on another yet won’t list any stats or pics of themselves. It’s easy to just rip on someone from the security of anonimity.
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I agree and have been guilty of this in the past. And seeing how I dont plan on posting pics anytime soon I guess I’ll just have to STFU or be very PC when I criticize! lol