Why are Some People Such Douchebags?

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Mr.Purple wrote:

Just worked himself in? Lol, pX probably uses 3 plates a side to warm up on that machine. That would have to fuck up whatever they were doing. Regardless of how silly their workout was, it is not right to do what he did. It is the same as he was saying earlier about someone much weaker trying to work in. It is just as impractical to have someone much stronger working in, no?

While I think this is a valid point, I can honestly say I get more annoyed when small people ask to work in than when large people ask to work in. I feel like the larger people have already paid their dues, so to speak, while a smaller person could be fucking up your workout and then quit training next week.

Either way, I’m not a fan of working in with people and never ask to unless it’s a cable machine.[/quote]

I feel the same way most of the time simply because of the amount of weight I am using.

However, it doesn’t make sense for me to be unable to use a machine that no one is on simply because 4 guys are about to use it in order and they don’t want anyone messing up their rotation.

That’s retarded. That is shit you pull when you own the gym.

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[quote]Itchy wrote:

He didn’t say he made the guys leave or evens top what they were doing–he just worked himself in on the equipment. What does that have to do with how developed he is or how undeveloped they were?

Sure, PX has a bit of a superior attitude when talking about these dudes, but what he thinks of them has little to do with whether it was innapropriate for him to work in on the machines.

This is different than asking someone to completely change their set-up so that you can save a couple of minutes.

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It doesn’t have ANYTHING to do with how well developed they were. That’s my point. X made sure he threw in the statement “It didn’t help that none of them were very developed either.” This is what I’m getting at. It’s as if he was MORE pissed that they said no just because they were small.

It’s more than this situation. He claims that since the dude that weighs 250 “knows what he’s doing” means he can’t pull it from the floor. He also assumes that since the dude weighs more than the OP, the OP is weak and had no business even talking to the guy.

I’ve stated more than once that it was the guys prerogative to move or not. I don’t disagree with that. But to claim he shouldn’t move because pulling from the floor is unthinkable, is a little silly.

I guess I see this differently than most because I lift in a small gym without multiple racks and have been on both sides of this situation.

I have a suspicion that had hardgnr said the 250 guy asked HIM to move his rows out of the rack so he could squat, this thread would have a much different tone.

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Look the main reason Guys like X get pissed about about most little guys lifting and me too is that they never stay. They are almost always gone in a month. They never last long enough to learn actual gym procedure. New clones come in and replace the douchbags that just left.

There are a couple of tiny guys that come in and workout and in with me but they know the basics of how things work and how to get along with everyone. If I could just get them to eat they would be much larger lol!

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[quote]cueball wrote:
Itchy wrote:

He didn’t say he made the guys leave or evens top what they were doing–he just worked himself in on the equipment. What does that have to do with how developed he is or how undeveloped they were?

Sure, PX has a bit of a superior attitude when talking about these dudes, but what he thinks of them has little to do with whether it was innapropriate for him to work in on the machines.

This is different than asking someone to completely change their set-up so that you can save a couple of minutes.

It doesn’t have ANYTHING to do with how well developed they were. That’s my point. X made sure he threw in the statement “It didn’t help that none of them were very developed either.” This is what I’m getting at. It’s as if he was MORE pissed that they said no just because they were small.
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But what if he WAS pissed that they said no just because they were small? That is beside the point.

I didn’t really see him assume any of that. All I saw was his suggestion that we don’t have any idea what the dude was training that way for and WE shouldn’t assume that changing his set-up like that would be no big deal.

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I’ve stated more than once that it was the guys prerogative to move or not. I don’t disagree with that. But to claim he shouldn’t move because pulling from the floor is unthinkable, is a little silly.[/quote]

Again, nobody said it was unthinkable. It’s just that we have no idea why he was NOT pulling from the floor. To think he’s just weak or stupid or dickish would be presumptuous.

I really doubt it, but we’ll never know.

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[quote]cueball wrote:
Itchy wrote:

He didn’t say he made the guys leave or evens top what they were doing–he just worked himself in on the equipment. What does that have to do with how developed he is or how undeveloped they were?

Sure, PX has a bit of a superior attitude when talking about these dudes, but what he thinks of them has little to do with whether it was innapropriate for him to work in on the machines.

This is different than asking someone to completely change their set-up so that you can save a couple of minutes.

It doesn’t have ANYTHING to do with how well developed they were. That’s my point. X made sure he threw in the statement “It didn’t help that none of them were very developed either.” This is what I’m getting at. It’s as if he was MORE pissed that they said no just because they were small.

It’s more than this situation. He claims that since the dude that weighs 250 “knows what he’s doing” means he can’t pull it from the floor. He also assumes that since the dude weighs more than the OP, the OP is weak and had no business even talking to the guy.

I’ve stated more than once that it was the guys prerogative to move or not. I don’t disagree with that. But to claim he shouldn’t move because pulling from the floor is unthinkable, is a little silly.

I guess I see this differently than most because I lift in a small gym without multiple racks and have been on both sides of this situation.

I have a suspicion that had hardgnr said the 250 guy asked HIM to move his rows out of the rack so he could squat, this thread would have a much different tone.

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LOL.

Dude, I couldn’t care less if this offends you. Yes, someone who CLEARLY has been training hard and shows it will get more respect in most gyms than the guy who doesn’t even look like he trains. That’s life. Deal with it. It used to be much more evident especially in the 80’s. Many competing bodybuilders didn’t even have to pay monthly dues. The owners felt it was a privilege for the guy to work there because it would bring them more business.

It is only now with the current “everybody goes to a gym” fad that now little guys who have no muscle want to be treated with more respect than deserved.

Yes, if some 260lbs dude near contest shape needs a piece of equipment, I would be more inclined to move from what I am doing to accommodate them than if they were very average looking.

Why? Because the big guys clearly has a plan worked out and is working for something…and reaching it. Most people in most gyms don’t. They are just taking up space like those old ladies in the gym on Saturday mornings sitting on the leg extension machines and laughing with each other instead of working out.

Sorry, I don’t enjoy watching them use the equipment for conversation when I need it to work hard.

If that offends you, GOOD.

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Holy shit I don’t get how this got dragged out so much. Op should’ve just taken it for what it is. He asked a guy to move, guy seemed to have been annoyed by this. Maybe he did leave the bar up real high on purpose. Or maybe someone else did this?

Did you actually see him do it?

Why didn’t you just worry about what you had to get done in the gym. Warmup legs on a machine and then comeback to the rack later.

One thing for certain, that other guy isn’t on some internet forum making a thread about some guy asking him to move. He probably gots better shit to worry about.

Didn’t matter if he was big or small. It’s not hard to say with courtesy “Hey how long you got?”. Yet I would be a little agitated if someone who was in a hurry came upto me asking me to move. If I was there first and just barely got done setting/warming up.

I think op made a thread for some just to agree with him and say it’ll be ok. Well it’s not. Simply wait next time until he’s done. If I’m running late to the gym and I don’t get to the equipment/rack I need to and my training doesn’t run smoothly. Whose fault is it? MINE.

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[quote]Beerguy wrote:
Look the main reason Guys like X get pissed about about most little guys lifting and me too is that they never stay. They are almost always gone in a month. They never last long enough to learn actual gym procedure. New clones come in and replace the douchbags that just left.

There are a couple of tiny guys that come in and workout and in with me but they know the basics of how things work and how to get along with everyone. If I could just get them to eat they would be much larger lol![/quote]

We are on the same page. I will go out of my way to help someone who asks for it and who is very serious themselves. Most people in most gyms do not fit that category.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Beerguy wrote:
Look the main reason Guys like X get pissed about about most little guys lifting and me too is that they never stay. They are almost always gone in a month. They never last long enough to learn actual gym procedure. New clones come in and replace the douchbags that just left.

There are a couple of tiny guys that come in and workout and in with me but they know the basics of how things work and how to get along with everyone. If I could just get them to eat they would be much larger lol!

We are on the same page. I will go out of my way to help someone who asks for it and who is very serious themselves. Most people in most gyms do not fit that category. [/quote]

Agreed! X 2 on the old ladies at the machines visiting! LOL! As long as they let me work in its cool besides I wish I had the guts to have blue hair. I lol at the fat chicks drinking DrPepper and talking on the cell phone durring their cardio session. Makes me smile!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

LOL.

Dude, I couldn’t care less if this offends you. Yes, someone who CLEARLY has been training hard and shows it will get more respect in most gyms than the guy who doesn’t even look like he trains. That’s life. Deal with it. It used to be much more evident especially in the 80’s. Many competing bodybuilders didn’t even have to pay monthly dues. The owners felt it was a privilege for the guy to work there because it would bring them more business.

It is only now with the current “everybody goes to a gym” fad that now little guys who have no muscle want to be treated with more respect than deserved.

Yes, if some 260lbs dude near contest shape needs a piece of equipment, I would be more inclined to move from what I am doing to accommodate them than if they were very average looking.

Why? Because the big guys clearly has a plan worked out and is working for something…and reaching it. Most people in most gyms don’t. They are just taking up space like those old ladies in the gym on Saturday mornings sitting on the leg extension machines and laughing with each other instead of working out.

Sorry, I don’t enjoy watching them use the equipment for conversation when I need it to work hard.

If that offends you, GOOD.[/quote]

This isn’t about giving guys bigger than you “respect”.

This isn’t about 80’s bodybuilders and if they paid dues or not.

The guy we are talking about was in a gym with one rack, and pulled a bitch move out of spite after being ASKED, not told, to move.

hardgnr isn’t a little weakling who has just started training. He didn’t asked for respect he didn’t deserve.

I fully agree with dicks farting around talking in groups taking up space. I deal with it all the time.

None of what you said offends me. But judging from the belittling things you like to throw into your posts for no apparent reasons, I’m sure you’ll keep trying.

Obviously we aren’t going to agree anytime soon. That’s cool.

Peace

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
cueball wrote:
WTF?
You guys are bashing the OP like he was a dick for even asking. All he did was ask. In a facility with only ONE rack it would be general courtesy to to move.

The holier-than-though " I’m bigger, I’ve made it, so I can do whatever, wherever, whenever" without ANY consideration for a fellow gym member is fucking stupid.

Best post yet.

Granted, you had an hour, you could have done squats later.

But the above quote is spot on.

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Agreed 100%.
I don’t care if you’re Pudzianowski, just because you weigh more than someone doesn’t give you the right to stop acting like a fucking man.

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[quote]Carlitosway wrote:

Did you actually see him do it?

Why didn’t you just worry about what you had to get done in the gym. Warmup legs on a machine and then comeback to the rack later.

One thing for certain, that other guy isn’t on some internet forum making a thread about some guy asking him to move. He probably gots better shit to worry about.

Didn’t matter if he was big or small. It’s not hard to say with courtesy “Hey how long you got?”. Yet I would be a little agitated if someone who was in a hurry came upto me asking me to move. If I was there first and just barely got done setting/warming up.

I think op made a thread for some just to agree with him and say it’ll be ok. Well it’s not. Simply wait next time until he’s done. If I’m running late to the gym and I don’t get to the equipment/rack I need to and my training doesn’t run smoothly. Whose fault is it? MINE.[/quote]

I think the goofy grin on his face I could see in the mirror as he was looking over to what my reaction would be pretty much proves he did it. Besides, the squat rack is in the back corner of the gym with all the leg stuff. Hardly anyone goes there.

The scenario didn’t bother me. What bothered me is why he felt like he had to act to get some revenge or something.

I’m over it. I knew before I walked in the door I wouldn’t finish my workout, but regardless it was a great session. I had to sit in my car for 5 minutes and wait before driving because my leg was going spastic on the clucth.

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[quote]cueball wrote:

The guy we are talking about was in a gym with one rack, and pulled a bitch move out of spite after being ASKED, not told, to move.

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When did it become a “bitch move” to start doing an exercise and not move when someone asks you to? He didn’t have to move in the first damn place and he was first on the machine. He owed the OP NOTHING. The OP is the one making any “bitch moves” simply for complaining about it on the world wide web simply because someone wouldn’t move out of the way for him because he was late.

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I don’t think it has anything to do with whether or not the guy moved but that he placed the loaded barbell on the top rung of the squat rack. A childish move in anyone’s eyes in my opinion.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
cueball wrote:

The guy we are talking about was in a gym with one rack, and pulled a bitch move out of spite after being ASKED, not told, to move.

When did it become a “bitch move” to start doing an exercise and not move when someone asks you to? He didn’t have to move in the first damn place and he was first on the machine. He owed the OP NOTHING. The OP is the one making any “bitch moves” simply for complaining about it on the world wide web simply because someone wouldn’t move out of the way for him because he was late.[/quote]

I never said not moving was the bitch move. Take your own advice and stop putting words into my mouth.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Beerguy wrote:
I think it is rude to ask anybody to move. I do not do it and when asked I do not move. I ask and let people work in with me everyday however. I do also think it is rude for anybody to say take up the one power rack in my gym for extended periods of time. That is rude. People just need to use their brains.

The new fad I’ve seen is two or three people jumping between 3 different HS machines and getting offended if you ask to work in.

I had this happen a few months ago. I apparently ruined their “circuit” by asking to use the one HS incline machine. I sat down anyway because I wasn’t about to wait for 30min for all of them (four guys in total) to finish their little circuit. It didn’t help that none of them were very developed either.[/quote]

and this is the proper way to act?

Like a child?
“No My toy,No my Toy, screw you im bigger than you so its mine”

come on now, you are in a public gym,you and these other 4 members pay the same amount of money to be there, you need to share.

You seem to think that being bigger gives you the right to be a dick,you feel entitled well I’m sorry buddy it does not work that way,if you did that to me I dont care if you are 100 pounds heavier than I am or 200 pounds heavier and can lift a bus, you and I would have words.

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[quote]MaddyD wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Beerguy wrote:
I think it is rude to ask anybody to move. I do not do it and when asked I do not move. I ask and let people work in with me everyday however. I do also think it is rude for anybody to say take up the one power rack in my gym for extended periods of time. That is rude. People just need to use their brains.

The new fad I’ve seen is two or three people jumping between 3 different HS machines and getting offended if you ask to work in.

I had this happen a few months ago. I apparently ruined their “circuit” by asking to use the one HS incline machine. I sat down anyway because I wasn’t about to wait for 30min for all of them (four guys in total) to finish their little circuit. It didn’t help that none of them were very developed either.

and this is the proper way to act?

Like a child?
“No My toy,No my Toy, screw you im bigger than you so its mine”

come on now, you are in a public gym,you and these other 4 members pay the same amount of money to be there, you need to share.

You seem to think that being bigger gives you the right to be a dick,you feel entitled well I’m sorry buddy it does not work that way,if you did that to me I dont care if you are 100 pounds heavier than I am or 200 pounds heavier and can lift a bus, you and I would have words.

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Read the rest of the thread, doofus. This was explained in detail.

NO ONE should have to wait while four guys use some other piece of equipment simply because they plan on coming back to it as a group.

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If I felt the need to make a thread because some guy didn’t move when I asked, I would have to kick my own ass. I don’t remember ever bitching about him saying no in the first place.

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[quote]polo77j wrote:
I don’t think it has anything to do with whether or not the guy moved but that he placed the loaded barbell on the top rung of the squat rack. A childish move in anyone’s eyes in my opinion.[/quote]

I’m pretty sure this is what OP meant by the “douchebag” reference and I’m still wondering if maybe he’s some kind of midget or something.

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[quote]Itchy wrote:
polo77j wrote:
I don’t think it has anything to do with whether or not the guy moved but that he placed the loaded barbell on the top rung of the squat rack. A childish move in anyone’s eyes in my opinion.

I’m pretty sure this is what OP meant by the “douchebag” reference and I’m still wondering if maybe he’s some kind of midget or something.[/quote]

LOL.

The ONLY justification for this being an issue is if he is 5’2".

I still don’t get what the problem is.

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This is a really fast-moving thread. Is everyone else home sick today, too?