[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Islam is not a religion. Its a militant anti-west ideology parading as a religion, for the purpose of destruction. [/quote]
That’s just your hateful Ann-Coulter-fed half-brain talking.
Islam is a religion. Muslims just want a place of worship like everybody else. 9/11 was a tragic event but it’s time to move on.[/quote]
And THAT’S just YOUR lib-nazi Chris Mathews/Paul Krugman-fed brain talking.
What Headhunter said is true. It’s in the fucking Koran. And the last thing your wrong about is that it’s “time to move on”
lol It will NEVER be time to move on. There is no going back. What that event brought to the western world will always be here, and will ALWAYS be a factor.
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The realization that killing innocent people for what goal ever is an atrocity?
I dont think that it has quite sunk in yet completely.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Islam is not a religion. Its a militant anti-west ideology parading as a religion, for the purpose of destruction. [/quote]
That’s just your hateful Ann-Coulter-fed half-brain talking.
Islam is a religion. Muslims just want a place of worship like everybody else. 9/11 was a tragic event but it’s time to move on.[/quote]
And THAT’S just YOUR lib-nazi Chris Mathews/Paul Krugman-fed brain talking.
What Headhunter said is true. It’s in the fucking Koran. And the last thing your wrong about is that it’s “time to move on”
lol It will NEVER be time to move on. There is no going back. What that event brought to the western world will always be here, and will ALWAYS be a factor.
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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Islam is not a religion. Its a militant anti-west ideology parading as a religion, for the purpose of destruction. [/quote]
That’s just your hateful Ann-Coulter-fed half-brain talking.
Islam is a religion. Muslims just want a place of worship like everybody else. 9/11 was a tragic event but it’s time to move on.[/quote]
And THAT’S just YOUR lib-nazi Chris Mathews/Paul Krugman-fed brain talking.
What Headhunter said is true. It’s in the fucking Koran. And the last thing your wrong about is that it’s “time to move on”
lol It will NEVER be time to move on. There is no going back. What that event brought to the western world will always be here, and will ALWAYS be a factor.
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Headhunter and Lixy are the same person…[/quote]
What? Now if you had said I was Thunderbolt, who is brilliant, I’d have been honored. Lixy’s okay though we disagree on many things.
Lixy? No. AynRandLuvr, yes (look in the TRT stickies).
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
OK so have actually checked into this further. Firstly the Mosque site isn’t even at ground zero, it is a couple of blocks away, secondly there is another Mosque already in the area that has been there since before the twin towers were even built (before Cushing starts foaming at the mouth and claiming they obviously don’t need another one, firstly how the hell would he know and secondly why does he have the right to decide that?)
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Well lets see, ever been to this area of new york, maybe to see renzo, ask him how he feels about it.
This is the business district, mainly jews and russians, both of which do not get along with muslims very well. Muslims make up less then 1% of the population in that area. While the jewish populaiton of the area is roughly 11%.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
It’s not hard to see why people would see a Mosque near Ground Zero to be an insult to the people that died.[/quote]
Peoples’ feelings do not trump the US Constitution, and thank God for that.[/quote]
Agreed.
That fact will come in handy when the mosque finds itself protested daily. [/quote]
Probably and those people would all be idiots.
Lets see, the dollar is in danger of collapsing, SS is collapsing, state governments are issuing IOUs, interests will go up, basically doubling an unsustainable deficit and finishing off cities that are too much in debt, federal jobs are exploding and making on average twice as much as the private sector, real unemployment is around 20%, medical services will and must be rationed due to a governmnet hijack of 1/6 of the US economy, there are two wars on and saber rattling for a third and people are easily distracted by what exactly?
A fucking mosque?
Jesus, you guys are deserving everything that is coming to you.
Have fun in your Islam free third world shithole.
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Thanks for the good wishes.
Much appreciated.
But I wonder if you’ll still have the privilege of posting your profound comments on American-based and funded BB’s like this one when we become that 3rd world shithole???
And, eh: to you virtually all Americans are idiots anyway. No news there.[/quote]
No, not all Americans.
Just the absolute majority, like everywhere.
When you turned from a republic into a democracy that kind of became a prblem.
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
OK so have actually checked into this further. Firstly the Mosque site isn’t even at ground zero, it is a couple of blocks away, secondly there is another Mosque already in the area that has been there since before the twin towers were even built (before Cushing starts foaming at the mouth and claiming they obviously don’t need another one, firstly how the hell would he know and secondly why does he have the right to decide that?)
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Well lets see, ever been to this area of new york, maybe to see renzo, ask him how he feels about it.
This is the business district, mainly jews and russians, both of which do not get along with muslims very well. Muslims make up less then 1% of the population in that area. While the jewish populaiton of the area is roughly 11%.
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I have been to that part of New York, yes. Also, I would guess that Renzo is OK with the Mosque though I don’t know for sure. He has plenty of very good Muslim friends.
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
OK so have actually checked into this further. Firstly the Mosque site isn’t even at ground zero, it is a couple of blocks away, secondly there is another Mosque already in the area that has been there since before the twin towers were even built (before Cushing starts foaming at the mouth and claiming they obviously don’t need another one, firstly how the hell would he know and secondly why does he have the right to decide that?)
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Well lets see, ever been to this area of new york, maybe to see renzo, ask him how he feels about it.
This is the business district, mainly jews and russians, both of which do not get along with muslims very well. Muslims make up less then 1% of the population in that area. While the jewish populaiton of the area is roughly 11%.
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I have been to that part of New York, yes. Also, I would guess that Renzo is OK with the Mosque though I don’t know for sure. He has plenty of very good Muslim friends.[/quote]
That is different, having friends or allowing a big F you. Unless he has grown soft, I haven’t seen him in about 5-6 yrs, they don’t tolerate disrespect though. And that is exactly what it is a trophy mosque, the reason for the stats is to show it is not needed and if anything the people of the area are groups that dispise Islam and everythign it stands for.
But as stated before, this is an american issue, do they have the right to build it yes, people have the ability to do lots of things, but that doesn’t mean they always should.
Who gives a shit!!! This entire thing is really a non-issue. The fact that Obama came out and even said something about this proves it.
What the media and the administration is doing is turning our attention from real issues towards something that doesn’t affect anybody. If there is a mosque built at the site tomorrow what difference does it make in your life?
The biggest threat in NYC, the one that is destabilizing the entire world is WALL STREET. Yes, the crooks, banksters and gangsters on Wall Street are robbing the country blind. Their tentacles have seeped into every facet of government. They control the country. What they do, DOES affect you, me and everyone else in this country.
If you want to get angry about something, get angry at the gangsters stealing the wealth of this country. I doubt that will happen though, the media is revving up the war propaganda machine, and it seems like a big chunk of Americans are going to buy into it again.
[quote]florelius wrote:
about the rapings in oslo. yes there are non-western people who rape in oslo, but non-western is not per definition muslim. there are also ethnic norwegians who rape. the take home point is this: if a muslim man rapes a woman, does that meen that all muslims are rapists? answer: offcourse not!
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If a Muslim man is much more likely to rape a woman than an ethnic Norwegian, and is from a culture that demeans women…doesn’t it indicate there is a fundamental clash of cultures?
Of course it doesn’t make every Muslim a rapist. However it indicates that Islam is a factor in the poor treatment of women.
[quote]florelius wrote:
about the rapings in oslo. yes there are non-western people who rape in oslo, but non-western is not per definition muslim. there are also ethnic norwegians who rape. the take home point is this: if a muslim man rapes a woman, does that meen that all muslims are rapists? answer: offcourse not!
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If a Muslim man is much more likely to rape a woman than an ethnic Norwegian, and is from a culture that demeans women…doesn’t it indicate there is a fundamental clash of cultures?
Of course it doesn’t make every Muslim a rapist. However it indicates that Islam is a factor in the poor treatment of women.[/quote]
you are confusing correlation and causation if you believe islam is a factor.
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
more of the same stuff
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There’s a mind-boggling arrogance to your thinking that YOU can decide what offends the sensibilities of New Yorkers, and Americans in general.
And before you deny it, your exact words about the building of this mosque were Why is it insensitive?
It’s the equivalent of telling a rape victim she’s “silly” for not wanting to be left alone with strange men.
So, Why is it insensitive?
Because the traumatized victims say it is. That’s why.[/quote]
So if that rape victim says that no men should be allowed to build their house in her street, is that acceptable?[/quote]
No, but if the rape victim was raped by a group of KKK white folk then she would have every reason to say that all KKK white folk are not allowed to build a house on her block.
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Or you could be a secular nation that has separation of religion and politics. Just saying, it is an option…[/quote]
Religion is part of who people are, they have every right to be who they are in politics, voters, politicians and the like. It is Anti-American to try to forcibly separate the 2. It would be like trying to get homosexual issues out of politics. A gay person has every right to have their sexuality influence their vote or their politics. So do Christians.[/quote]
I think you will find that your constitution (which I guess defines what it is to be American) actually does forcibly separate politics and religion. Telling people they cannot build a place of worship on some land that they own is massively unamerican.[/quote]
Your statement is factually inaccurate. The Constitution does not separate church from state.
[quote]PB-Crawl wrote:
you are confusing correlation and causation if you believe islam is a factor.[/quote]
Why? Simply because correlation doesn’t strictly imply causation? Well that is a bit stupid. There is a reason we bother to do statistical analysis.
We have a religion and primative culture that teaches that scantily clad women are whores who deserve to be beaten and raped. When these people move to a city the rape rate goes through the roof.
Now you are right it might not be because of Islam. However Islam is one of the likely contributing factors.
I admit it could be something else. It could even be as simple as immigrants are more likely to be rapists, and just coincidence that many of the immigrants are Muslims. But lets not pretend that Islam is an unlikely factor. To do so is unscientific.