Who the F**K is B.o.B.?

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Thing is 'bout Lil Weezy, is that his more ‘underground’ works are quite different than the mainstream commercial shit he releases through Young Money (all them songs with Drake, “Bedrock”, etc). So basically if you’re not too big of a Wayne fan or just plain hate BECAUSE of the stupid shit you hear on the radio just check out his mixtapes and give them a try. I still think hes got very solid material in that area.

Other than that I think Wayne is a very skilled rapper and respected in the field. You don’t see any wankers beefin’ or tryin’ to bust with Wayne save some underground-wanna-make-it-big fucks like Gillie da Kid residing there in Philly.

Once he gets out jail WATCH OUT.[/quote]

Yeah I agree, I think his best work is probably Da Drought 3, which is a mixtape. I still think Tha Carter 3 was a great record, but I barely play it now, whereas Drought 3 really lets his personality fly, and is still rewarding me on repeat listens even 3 years later. Dedication 2 was dope too, as was Drought is Over Part 2.[/quote]

If you like all those mixtapes and if you havent already checked it out, listen to the ‘No Ceilings’ mixtape

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[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:

[quote]Amiright wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
these are all good suggestions but you’ve gotta check out Dirt Nasty…

.greg.[/quote]

Isn’t that Simon Rex?[/quote]

yes it is… dirt nasty is actually pretty entertaining… him and mickey avalon are good friends friends

and larrydavid… you read into lil waynes musics the same way people read into Shakespeare etc… half the time you’re making up complete garbage that wasn’t even intended. Or the same way people over analysed the Beatles “i am walrus” just to find out the song is about jack shit. [/quote]

Why can’t you read into Lil Wayne the same way you can with Shakespeare? No form of cultural production is privileged over another in terms of meaning - that’s a pretty ancient point of view in terms of cultural theory. The artist or writer releases their work, and once that is done, the meaning is constructed by society, not by the artist. There are no concrete meanings made by the artist, only intended meanings. John Lennon may have intended “I Am the Walrus” to have no meaning, but people will assign their own meaning to it.
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I never said he couldn’t… Shakespeare was the first example that popped into my head because of the utter bullshit people would get out of it. I wasn’t saying one is superior to the other… A person can get whatever meaning they want out of a song etc… but saying lil wayne is a lyrical genius with half the garbage he calls music is a little over the top. But thats obviously my opinion… others may see it differently.

larrydavid- I would think if you were going to insult me you would do better than that. I am an engineer because I find “language arts etc…” incredibly mundane

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[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
guess I found my answer!!

anyone notice that that actually isn’t BoB but some random youtube guy that dubbed his own rap over the song? sounds good for a random lol

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[quote]bmbweber wrote:

If you like all those mixtapes and if you havent already checked it out, listen to the ‘No Ceilings’ mixtape[/quote]

No Ceilings was DOPE. After spending most of 09 riding his new found fame, trying to finish that awful rock album, and phoning in his guest verses, it was nice to see him killing people on their own songs again. Good stuff, man.

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First of all drake is the worst crap of all time. I hat these weird gay voices always on the radio and that dumb aaaa aaa aaaalcohol.

Anyone cool when you mentioned this I was like BOB that sounds familiar. Been listenin to this ill song on pitbulls cd rebulution called across the world it was feat someone or other who did most of the lyrics who was ill. Just looked at my ipod and sure enough it’s BOB. Definetly good stuff great singer real cool if he raps too definetly gonna check his stuff out.

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I know way too many people here right now that I didn’t know last year…who the f*ck y’all…I swear it feels like the last few nights we’ve been everywhere and back BUT I just can’t remember it all…what am I doin?..what am I doin?..

Oh yeah thats right I’m doing me… Im doing me…Im living life right now man…and this is what imma do till its over, till its over but its far from over.

YEAH YA!

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[quote]SSC wrote:
My sister turned me on to this one, I know it’s not ACTUALLY B.O.B., but…

Yep liked that song since I heard it, it’s amazing what your mind starts to think when you’re singing Billionaire in your mind, like what I’ll do when I become a billionaire, how i’ll get there, what I can do for others etc. Tell your mind to do something, you follow.

On BOB, heard Nothin’ on You (?) and Airplanes with the hot hot hot Hayley Willams loved both songs.

Although Nothin’ on You reminded me of Superstar by Lupe Fiasco.

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Bruno Mars made the song with B.O.B.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I know way too many people here right now that I didn’t know last year…who the f*ck y’all…I swear it feels like the last few nights we’ve been everywhere and back BUT I just can’t remember it all…what am I doin?..what am I doin?..

Oh yeah thats right I’m doing me… Im doing me…Im living life right now man…and this is what imma do till its over, till its over but its far from over.

YEAH YA![/quote]

obviously not the best sample of his shit. you can grab a shitty hook from any artist if you get selective enough and just block out everything else

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Okay so Drake is a 50/50. On one end his shit is kinda stupid but on the other hes one of the freshest acts on the block. He, along with the Lady Gaga are moving music away from Rihanna and Beyonce, which is great.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Okay so Drake is a 50/50. On one end his shit is kinda stupid but on the other hes one of the freshest acts on the block. He, along with the Lady Gaga are moving music away from Rihanna and Beyonce, which is great.[/quote]

What’s wrong with Rihanna and Beyonce?

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I am wondering how many of the people claiming Eminem’s cd sucks were actually ever fans at all of any of his music. I like “I’m not afraid”…and in my opinion, the songs of his that seem to last the longest in the sense that they aren’t “temporary hits” are the ones where he seems to go deeper about his own personal issues. Saying he shouldn’t discuss getting clean from drugs is dumb as hell…especially since I am sure the exact same people would bash some rappers for glorifying the same.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am wondering how many of the people claiming Eminem’s cd sucks were actually ever fans at all of any of his music. I like “I’m not afraid”…and in my opinion, the songs of his that seem to last the longest in the sense that they aren’t “temporary hits” are the ones where he seems to go deeper about his own personal issues. Saying he shouldn’t discuss getting clean from drugs is dumb as hell…especially since I am sure the exact same people would bash some rappers for glorifying the same.[/quote]

I’m not a huge fan of songs like ‘The Real Slim Shady’ and ‘We Made You’, but songs like ‘When I’m Gone’ and ‘Cleanin’ Out My Closet’ are great songs that show just how talented Eminem really is at expressing his deeper more emotional side.

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[quote]Jereth127 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am wondering how many of the people claiming Eminem’s cd sucks were actually ever fans at all of any of his music. I like “I’m not afraid”…and in my opinion, the songs of his that seem to last the longest in the sense that they aren’t “temporary hits” are the ones where he seems to go deeper about his own personal issues. Saying he shouldn’t discuss getting clean from drugs is dumb as hell…especially since I am sure the exact same people would bash some rappers for glorifying the same.[/quote]

I’m not a huge fan of songs like ‘The Real Slim Shady’ and ‘We Made You’, but songs like ‘When I’m Gone’ and ‘Cleanin’ Out My Closet’ are great songs that show just how talented Eminem really is at expressing his deeper more emotional side.[/quote]

I’m a bigger fan of his earlier work like most of his fans are. I honestly have never heard of a REALLY BAD song from him and am the first to admit that Relapse is not one of his best. I liked it, but the accent threw me off.

That said, no one can still fuck with EMINEM lyrically. Listen to the songs recently put out, especially the ones that feats Lil Wayne. Weezy got balls to go verse for verse with Em and I’ve been impressed by Weezy lately but Em is still at the top. My dream collabo would be for Eminem and Nas to do a few songs.

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Eminem’s first two albums [especially The Marshall Mathers LP] are his best stuff, and his only classics. The Eminem Show was a little too serious but was still a great album. Encore was unfocused and Relapse was kind of corny and relied too much on the same annoying flow and subject matter, albeit with less of the humour of his first two records.

The new Eminem record is just O.K. The hooks are subpar, and the beats aren’t that great-- especially considering the guys who were rumoured to be on [and ended up being on] the record. Just Blaze, DJ Khalil, Havoc, The Alchemist, Boi-1da. All of those dudes [except Boi-1da] are underrated as hell.

As far as rapping goes, Recovery is a lot like what Before I Self Destruct was for 50 Cent. Basically, the artist realizing what his core audience wanted from him, and trying to give them just that-- with the result being a soulless version of what people loved them for. There really are no songs on here that make me laugh, or move me. But as far as technical skills go, he’s as good as he ever was. There are some good songs, but in a nutshell, none of the songs make the Ipod.

I know people like to say that his joke songs were bad and only there to help him get popular, but there was a time when his joke songs/verses were entertaining as hell, and some of them were statements in of themselves. This is a guy who stole the show on every Dr. Dre song he was on from the ‘2001’ album-- and all of those verse were Shady verses.

EDIT: Although the songs “Going Through Changes” on the new album is dope:

This song might stay on my Itunes.

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Eminem’s first two albums [especially The Marshall Mathers LP] are his best stuff, and his only classics. The Eminem Show was a little too serious but was still a great album. Encore was unfocused and Relapse was kind of corny and relied too much on the same annoying flow and subject matter, albeit with less of the humour of his first two records.

The new Eminem record is just O.K. The hooks are subpar, and the beats aren’t that great-- especially considering the guys who were rumoured to be on [and ended up being on] the record. Just Blaze, DJ Khalil, Havoc, The Alchemist, Boi-1da. All of those dudes [except Boi-1da] are underrated as hell.

As far as rapping goes, Recovery is a lot like what Before I Self Destruct was for 50 Cent. Basically, the artist realizing what his core audience wanted from him, and trying to give them just that-- with the result being a soulless version of what people loved them for. There really are no songs on here that make me laugh, or move me. But as far as technical skills go, he’s as good as he ever was. There are some good songs, but in a nutshell, none of the songs make the Ipod.

I know people like to say that his joke songs were bad and only there to help him get popular, but there was a time when his joke songs/verses were entertaining as hell, and some of them were statements in of themselves. This is a guy who stole the show on every Dr. Dre song he was on from the ‘2001’ album-- and all of those verse were Shady verses.

EDIT: Although the songs “Going Through Changes” on the new album is dope:

This song might stay on my Itunes.[/quote]

You call that “soulless”? Between that and Not Afraid, I’ll buy his whole album. Those are the types of songs I really liked from him anyway.

I understand what you are getting at, but one thing I have never understood is why fans of artists expect for their music to never evolve at all.

The ones who have lasted over 20 years (Like the Princes and the Aerosmiths) did change style even if slightly over time.

Marshall’s been around since the 90’s.

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Never really like Eminem’s studio stuff, but his early underground stuff and freestyles are bananas. He’s also done some cameo’s on others albums that are pretty good. He had a verse on a Thurston Howell album that’s pretty killer.

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The whole album leaked but the only song I downloaded is No Love featuring Wayne. It’s dope as hell and I promised myself not to listen to any of the leaked stuff and buy the CD like I do most of the time for artists like Nas, Eminem and Jayz.

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This song is just too fkin good!

For some reason, I personally think this song is better than anything B.o.B or Drake ever came up with. It’s unreal. That’s why Im such a huge fan. This dude needs to put out more material.

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Guys if you listened to “Recovery” and thought it was sub-par then you clearly don’t know rap. Just because he doesn’t spit cookie cutter one-liners and use cheesy metaphors about how fat his pockets are or how much swag he has doesn’t make it not good. When you listen to his songs do yourself a favor and read the lyrics at the same time. If you have any sort of education you will be able to notice that he purposely does things that go over peoples heads.

Take note of the multi-syllabic rhymes, double meanings, his ability to narrate and stay on topic (I love lil wayne but he can’t do this, regardless of the track he will always have lines about his swag, his money, give wayne a topic and he suffers, which is why his mixtapes outshine his albums). Songs on recovery like Space Bound, Talkin 2 myself, and You’re Never over are simply incredible…He rhymes words that other rappers don’t even know exist, he tells stories, he rides the beat perfectly. You can’t find a more complete mc in my opinion. Rap is more than brainless one-liners, I mean for christ sake nicki minaj does it every rap and shes retarded. Plus its refreshing to hear someone who is so self-aware (admits that encore and relapse weren’t his best work, even though there are songs on both those albums that most rappers could never touch), so brutally honest. I highly recommend recovery and supporting the artist by buying the cd.

And if you ever want a good laugh look up lyrics to carter 3 songs and then recovery…the amount of rhymes per sentence from eminem will blow you away…