anyone use logic on here? with an above average knowledge of sound recording? I record spoken word into logic, and find it really hard to master all the layers of recording. Parallel compression when to use buses, when to double tracks.
I have to say its more complicated than almost anything i have ever done. Ive spent about a year and half studying everything practicing and still just scratching the surface.
I use LOGIC Studio, with an apoggee duet, and a grace m101, with an AT 4047, and also use reason!
I just got FL Studio 8, and have been using earlier versions of that and Sony Acid. Technically I have yet to actually record any music (live instruments or vocals) because I do not have a mic. Up until this point I have only used MIDI and some drum samples I’ve picked up or made myself.
I recently bought a pair of rokit8 powered monitors and will be purchasing the Emu 1616m Pci sound system (mixer-less) shortly. I would also like to get Sampletank or some kind of sample library, but this hobby sure does require a shitload of money!
During my next three terms at school I will be working and learning in their studios; I believe they teach with Reason, but I’m not positive. Everything I know now I’ve learned from http://www.tweakheadz.com/.
Do you like your AT4047? I really need to pick up a mic as well, but it wil be awhile until I can afford a decent one.
[quote]ephrem wrote:
…i dabble a little in recording music, but on a PC and exclusively in the box. For recording related questions try these forums:
…be prepared to get flamed, but you’ll get your answers. Good luck…[/quote]
Ha. Yeah I’ve never been to either of those but I am a member at FutureProducers.com and I’ve been flamed there, moreso when I was first getting into this stuff.
I remember one time asking about a spectrum analyzer and this dude (who is basically the equivilant of Prof X on those boards) gave a sarcastic comment something like “Why would you need a spectrum analyzer… you don’t hear with your eyes… blah blah.” It’s a lot different for me than bodybuilding in that I don’t know nearly as much.
Haha music snobs are worse than bodybuilding snobs that’s for sure. The funny thing is, is that I highly doubt that guy could tell you the shape of the spectrum with only his ears.
Do you know about the the boost EQing method? The one where you boost a very small band to like +12db and then slide it down the spectrum and listen for loud resonance. Those are the places to lower. That is probably the best EQing tip I have.
The only tip I have for compression, is to make sure you know exactly what every setting on a compressor is doing. Side-chaining is also extremely useful.
From the reviews I’ve read, the preamps on the Emu are much better than other systmes in it’s price range. To be fair, I’ve never worked with it so I’m relying on my research, which has been fairly extensive.
if your not on a mac and cant get an apoggee than I would opt for the MOTU ultralight! and you can get the converter moded with black lion for better conversion DA.
I can tell you something:
no 350 dollar systems built in pres will ever sound good or give you the full capabilities of a mic,
and if you get a good mic it wont show it!
get the best conversion you can! you’ll just end up selling the emu!
personally you might want to look at the MOTU cause it has built in reverb, eq, and such the hits the signal prior to recording!
For preamps, grace, true and RNP are the best under a grand but need good conversion!
[quote]Thomas Gabriel wrote:
Haha music snobs are worse than bodybuilding snobs that’s for sure. The funny thing is, is that I highly doubt that guy could tell you the shape of the spectrum with only his ears.
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As a certified music snob, I am offended by your statement.
Not really.
The only digital recording I’ve done has been a few practice tracks with audacity. mostly just to hear myself screw up, and figure out how to fix it (guitar playing).
Before that, I remember sitting in a friends basement recording with an old four-track onto a cassette. That was a lot of fun.
I have ProTools LE but hardly use it and usually just use my computer’s basic GarageBand. Why? Because I find that whenever I dedicate 4 hours to recording stuff, I end up spending 3 hours 50 minutes on the computer and 10 minutes actually playing music.
IMO, unless you want to be an engineer, attempting to really master these recording programs is the WORST thing you can do for your musical chops – because you probably don’t have time to focus on both.
I use a Lexicon Omega unit w/Cubebase LE. Have used ProTools LE and SoundForge in the past. Audacity is a wonderful little tool for various things. Been noodling with Reaper-- not too shabby.
[quote]MISCONCEPTION wrote:
reaper is a great program and was my first attempt. I found that the plugins on it weren’t quite as good as LOGIC, but it sure got the job DONE.
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Reaper is very good. The included plugins suck, but you are supposed to get VSTs. Logic is the only audio software that has decent native instruments/fx. Well I suppose some one say Reason as well…but those aren’t exactly plugins.
Here is my ranked list of audio PRODUCTION software:
Logic
Reaper
Cubase
FL
Reason
Ableton
Here is my ranked list of audio MIXING software:
Ableton
It is so much better than anything else at mixing that there is no point in listing the rest.
Was going to reply with a big post about the topic, but then realized this thread is a year old. I’m sure misconception has figured out a lot of his basic problems by now, and if not, then I hope his gear has found a better home.