Also: This is strong.
I believe those Dan John standards were meant for his HS athletes.
[quote]JRT6 wrote:
I believe those Dan John standards were meant for his HS athletes.[/quote]
They weren’t. They’re just general standards for those who compete in non strength sports. He says it in the article. He says that if you can do those the strength shouldn’t be a limiting factor in your chosen endeavor.
[quote]JRT6 wrote:
I believe those Dan John standards were meant for his HS athletes.[/quote]
Nope, those were:
"My High School Standards, for Girls Varsity:
Big Silver Club (Girls)
One Arm Bench 12kg10 Right/10 left
Standing Press 70
Power Clean 95
Deadlift 205
Back Squat 135
Front Squat 95
Power Clean & Jerk 75
All done in one workout, by the way.
High School Standards, for Boys Varsity
Big Blue Club (Boys)
One Arm Bench 32kg5 Right/5 left
Standing Press 115
Power Clean 205
Deadlift 315
Back Squat 255
Front Squat 205
Power Clean & Jerk 165"
Now I recognize it. Speaking of which, anyone do the one arm bench press?
What about job specific strength standards? I’m thinking along the lines of firefighters picking up #200 sandbag off the ground and carrying it over their shoulder for a certain distance. Does anyone have standards required by their job or can you think of some that would be usefull in your line of work?
[quote]nighthawkz wrote:
[quote]JRT6 wrote:
I believe those Dan John standards were meant for his HS athletes.[/quote]
Nope, those were:
"My High School Standards, for Girls Varsity:
Big Silver Club (Girls)
One Arm Bench 12kg10 Right/10 left
Standing Press 70
Power Clean 95
Deadlift 205
Back Squat 135
Front Squat 95
Power Clean & Jerk 75
All done in one workout, by the way.
High School Standards, for Boys Varsity
Big Blue Club (Boys)
One Arm Bench 32kg5 Right/5 left
Standing Press 115
Power Clean 205
Deadlift 315
Back Squat 255
Front Squat 205
Power Clean & Jerk 165"
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Would you guys happen to know what the point behind the one arm bench is? Seems a bit squirrelly to me alongside those other lifts.
[quote]kollak95 wrote:
Would you guys happen to know what the point behind the one arm bench is? Seems a bit squirrelly to me alongside those other lifts.
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I know that Dan John picked it up when training with a single dumbbell at home. He said it is very taxing on the core and challenges your arms individually. But I totally get what you mean - it’s less “compoundy” than the other lifts he mentions.
[quote]nighthawkz wrote:
[quote]kollak95 wrote:
Would you guys happen to know what the point behind the one arm bench is? Seems a bit squirrelly to me alongside those other lifts.[/quote]
I know that Dan John picked it up when training with a single dumbbell at home. He said it is very taxing on the core and challenges your arms individually. But I totally get what you mean - it’s less “compoundy” than the other lifts he mentions.[/quote]
Yep. He talked a bit about it here:
In that article, he also points out that Ethan Reeves has 125x5 as a “gold standard” for his athletes at Wake Forest.
But I’d actually say it’s more compoundy, just less heavy. It’s a horizontal press coordinated with a huge core requirement (anti-rotation and stabilization), so it’s a very functional (yes, the f word) way of assessing pressing power and carryover compared to “plain” barbell pressing which is relatively more stable. The unilateral work also highlights any drastic discrepancies between sides. Cosgrove and other coaches have used a standing horizontal cable press (basically a straight punch with a cable handle) for a similar assessment/movement pattern.
Pull ups are too low. I’ve used 135 before.
[quote]csulli wrote:
Those are pretty insane haha! I’m wondering if they were being serious or just fuckin around with people online. Because I’m sitting here trying to think of people who could actually do all of those things. Kaz back in the day? He’s the best example I can think of off the top of my head.
But if you’re defining strong as Kaz level and up that’s kind of like defining tall as being anyone over 8 feet. I don’t see how it’s a useful descriptor at that point rofl.[/quote]
Yeah not useful at all for a noob lifter looking for an ego stroke, but if someone can do all of these, they would be “unquestionably strong”. Then again, internet haters and trolls are pretty resourceful. They’ll find something to talk shit about.